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What, not used to being responded to in kind? You're a lot of work, sir.

Wow, look at you! What makes people turn into thin-skinned ++++s by executing the simple act of logging on? :D Concentrated frustration from living useless REAL lives, perhaps? 99.75? I wish I cared enough to find out what drops from your ass next. So yeah, keep hunting through those...

So, cooper isn't considered in the range of noble metals now? This is insane, and why folks are so afraid of water cooling. Look, it's really easy and you do NOT have to be a meatball materials scientist to play THIS game: 1. No water cooling OEM worth looking up is going to offer AL...

As long as the metals being mixed are of the noble variety there's no problem that can be measured in the duty cycle of the average WCing FRU.

Come on Joe, you could assume that I'm more sophisticated than this. Nonstop or a whole host of other things, yes? As for "most people". I don't claim to know what anyone else wants or doesn't want. Yeah, you don't NEED/WANT all of those extras, so why would anyone else? :D Again...

Granted Joe, but you quoted tired, old ME! :D I don't waste my time hunting for mildly hobbled (FREE!) versions of software. If I see something that works, I buy it. IMO, these very talented guys and gals DESERVE to be compensated for gems like Acronis. Surely this place is big enough for...

Don't take this the wrong way, but at this point in my life just saying something is "FREE!" doesn't excite me one bit. I have 7 HDD's attached to my rig and $29 a year to upgrade (including patches) whatever imaging software I think is best to keep my OS/data safe is nothing, really. FWIW...

@Nick: I understand what you're saying, but not everyone is going to view water cooling this light. As for your view of mixed metals, I think I'm missing something. On one hand your saying that water cooling is worth doing right. While on the other it's not important to avoid low density...

It's too easy in this day and age not to mix metals, and still have high-quality blocks/parts. @OP: If you're jammed for cash, by all means use what you have for now plus a designed-for-water cooling corrosion inhibiter. However, when you can, swap out any aluminum in your loop.

Acronis Home for Win764U. It's easy and very complete in terms of features. Edit: It's not free, but not all good things are.

A D5 or DDC will do you fine.

An excellent read, Bill. Thanks for taking them time.

I'd very much like to see the long version of how and where a core is superior to a modern prefab. ;) The evolution is towards thick, oversized radiators with less fin density to increase performance using a broad range of potential CFM, decrease noise and avoid the hard-packing of dust over time.

Cores are fine if you REALLY want to save some money, but performance wise they don't compare to well anymore. If you can swing it at all go for a decent 120.3 designed for water cooling rad.

Quality? Not really, but it has a solid design which translates into good performance. It's a good choice for the money. Martin on the MCR320 Speaking of what is or isn't overpriced, here's Martin on the Feser 480: Feser 480 Notice, beyond the bling factor you have a much better...

Feser seems to have a leg up in terms of build quality and fin design.

I wouldn't suggest an HE to anyone. The fin density requires not just high flow, but lots and lots of static pressure. They also clog very quickly. There are better alternatives.

Perfect case for water cooling is what RR said. It's broad footprint is what makes it far more suitable than a standard width case for serious water. I don't see perfection anywhere, so he was a over the top in that, IMO, but I understand and agree with his sentiments.

I haven't been able to find a review on the unit, but I tend to trust German engineering. Also, the block isn't going to be overly "restrictive" automatically. It depends on its channel design. I'm using a DD FC block that LOOKS like it would be restrictive, being that its SO thin compared to...

It doesn't matter THAT much, but in general a res should be at the highest point. This allows the res to function as designed in terms of filling the loop.

Feser and the MCR run well with HS fans, PA to a lesser extent.

Fresh water evaporates from sea water, leaving the salt behind. You don't have that to worry about. As far as humidity, I lived in Chicago for 35-years and I just learned to live with it. Yes, electronics will break down a little faster, but you can always run the AC at a little lower than...

:D Man, you guys make me feel like I'm rich, or just really overpaid!

Yeah, that's the ticket!!! (giggle) I'm really wanting to see some hard data on 2-rad loops.

I suspected you'd take this approach. "Need" doesn't come into it when someone ELSE is spending THEIR money. And this is equally true for me regardless of whether the item in question is a tricked-up KB or an ultra-fast car. And no, my reply has nothing to do me taking anything personally...

How about this in response: What's the big deal with a Shelby Corba? They only seem useful if you want to to drive really, REALLY fast. Why not just get a car that >I< think is adequate? See how that works? It's more than okay to to buy what you like, but the attitude that it's just as...

Agreed, except for res placement. Flow is a matter of equilibrium as well, but it's based on total restriction as opposed to changing thermal load. Intake for a res is going to be equal to the exhaust, perhaps shaving off a bit based on the restriction presented by the barbs themselves, if...

Have you ever seen one in the "flesh?" 18 inches square isn't going to take over your computer room, at least I hope not. ;) The difference in mounting water cooling gear is pronounced though, as in easy as pie. I'd have to be hard-pressed to go back to a standard width case for water.

Consider a MM case, but it's going to be more than $250. It mounts the PA120.3 the way it was designed to be mounted and has loads of room for expansion.

Few if any rads these days can be considered restrictive. As long as you use a muscular pump you shouldn't have a problem.

Of the 12 120mm fans I have mounted, 9 are Noc's. When I crank down the other 3 I can REALLY tell the difference. When I told my wife, the family CFO, that I wanted to spend almost $300 on fans she looked at me like I was crazy, but it's been worth it. My first quiet PC can be VERY quiet...

Very good! You're cable Kung Fu kicks my arse... :D

You can heat smaller ID tubing, in boiling water, before fitting it and get a fair amount of wiggle room, but there are limits. It shouldn't matter too much what brand of tubing you use, but I wouldn't suggest the cheap Home Depot stuff in any case. BTW, you're going the right way with...

Petra's gel also acts as a thermal insolator. Just something to keep in mind.

Industrial Velcro. I decided to use it for my current build to avoid having to drill. It turned out being a fine way to isolate vibration as well.

Eheim's have only one drawback in terms of water cooling, size. Otherwise they're comparable to something like a D5 when it comes to heat dump, and they have the added benifit of being built like tanks. If you want to go Eheim just because, take a look at this gem: XT ultra. If noise is a...

Both of those blocks require muscular pumps to function well. Does either kit meet that criteria?

One thing to consider about the DDC. The stock screws are VERY soft. I had to swap tops on two, and before it was over I developed a deep, dark hatred for Swiftech. ;) PLEASE use a case-hardened phillips with a fine head.

I don't know, it's actually sort of fun to look at. :confused:

What a joy to look through! Thanks guys! :D