4K 60Hz 4:4:4 HDMI 2.0 TV Database

SixFootDuo said:
THANK YOU! I'm ready to move over to 4k but I need 60hz at 4k for my PC. And I want at least a 39" - 40" maybe 42" display.

I will be paying very close attention to this tread and will update here when I can
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Did you find a 4K tv between 39 - 42 ", with 60hz, 4:4:4 ?
I'm looking for something similar, also
 
Im still looking daily .. several times per day. I did go and have a look at the 9000 series 48" Samsung Curved that does support chroma 4:4:4 but there are no latency numbers yet and that set is a bit pricey for what I want to spend.

I'm waiting on the latency numbers for the 6700 series for the 48" it seems the perfect size for me
 
What about Samsung UE40HU6900, 60hz, 4k and 4:4:4 ?
Any ideas ?
I think 48" it's too big, as a computer monitor
 
SixFootDuo said:
Im still looking daily .. several times per day. I did go and have a look at the 9000 series 48" Samsung Curved that does support chroma 4:4:4 but there are no latency numbers yet and that set is a bit pricey for what I want to spend.

I'm waiting on the latency numbers for the 6700 series for the 48" it seems the perfect size for me
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http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/ue65js9000-201503154027.htm

21.8ms, that review is based on the 65" but can't imagine it would be different for the smaller size. As you said though the JS9000 is pricey, I wouldn't want to spend that much.
 
Just tossing this out as a recommendation - the Sharp Aquos LC-60UD27U. Just got mine setup along with my two Titan X cards and it's freaking amazing. 4k @ 60 Hz 4:4:4 chroma subsampling works on HDMI input 3 in PC mode.
 
Any update on this in regards to the Samsung thread on here stating 4:4:4 works with 21ms of lag
 
I don't have a 9 series card to test, but have a ju750d here and in the menu it states 4k 60hz 4:4:4 with UHD color on.
 
Its a UN65JU750D model in 65". Costco's version of the JU7500.
 
sioux said:
What do you mean, dpoverlord ?
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Sorry my new phones autocorrect is a bit bleh...
I meant in the other "Samsung thread" there is a lot of talks of the 6700 series working really well. I personally am looking for the set with 3 with Topcashback an discounts the
6700 comes to almost $800....

Curious if you guys in this thread heard any updates and I am still lost as to what the 9000 or 7000 series has thats better if we use a PC. Since all I can see is the more expensive models have nicer speakers. I personally thought OLED would be the way to go but I have not seen any 4:4:4 threads on OLED 4k / no pwwm.

BigMack70 said:
Just tossing this out as a recommendation - the Sharp Aquos LC-60UD27U. Just got mine setup along with my two Titan X cards and it's freaking amazing. 4k @ 60 Hz 4:4:4 chroma subsampling works on HDMI input 3 in PC mode.
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Saw your cig, what sytem are you runing? I came from 3 titans and was gonna switch out and now have a 5930k + RIVE black

Cecil said:
Its a UN65JU750D model in 65". Costco's version of the JU7500.
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how do you like it?
 
What about 120hz 4K TVs... why so excited about the 60hz models, am I missing something I could have sworn some of them were already 120hz.
 
120hz on an HDTV is basically just hardware trickery. So no, it's not the same as 60hz.
 
SixFootDuo said:
120hz on an HDTV is basically just hardware trickery. So no, it's not the same as 60hz.
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Some TVs can do true 120Hz at 1080p.... the Vizio P, for example. At 4K, though, it's not possible at the moment due to bandwidth constraints.
 
I am still a little curious as to what the 4:4:4 does for me. Is it essential to have if you are going to use your 4k tv as a monitor, no matter what the tasks, or only for gaming?
 
joeterp said:
I am still a little curious as to what the 4:4:4 does for me. Is it essential to have if you are going to use your 4k tv as a monitor, no matter what the tasks, or only for gaming?
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It is essential for all tasks because if you don't have it, some colors will not look so great.
 
=)(= said:
It is essential for all tasks because if you don't have it, some colors will not look so great.
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No it's pretty much just for some fine color combos in abstract elements like UI/fonts. Makes no diff for realistic images like video or games.
 
Agent00F said:
No it's pretty much just for some fine color combos in abstract elements like UI/fonts. Makes no diff for realistic images like video or games.
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Yup, Chroma sub-sampling just affects high contrast color clarity, like colored text on a different colored background. It's effects are differing in intensity depending on what colors schemes you're viewing.

You won't notice in games since things move around so fast that fine detail is lost, and you won't notice in in movies because THEY ARE ALL ALREADY COMPRESSED. To save bandwidth, VCD, DVD, broadcast HD and BluRay use 4:2:0 chroma, because most people can't tell the difference in rich detailed movie scenes.

You can still use a 4:2:0 signal for an HDTV like I do (older 1080p), just be prepared to increase the minimum font size in your web browser, since high-contrast text details are lost. But you can imagine that if you're spending this kind of time and money to view those tiny little details, you'd want the best possible signal, which is why so many people are searching for perfection ;)

One major benefit of this 4k TV as monitor craze: it's making TV manufacturers look into native 4:4:4 support and input lag like never before :D Just a few years back they couldn't give a shit.
 
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Does anyone know if any of the new 40" Panasonic TV's supports 4:4:4?

http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/viera-televisions/led/tx-40cx400b.html
http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/viera-televisions/led/tx-40cx680b.html
http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/viera-televisions/led/tx-40cx700b.html
http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consumer/viera-televisions/led/tx-40cx802b.html

It says on the spec "HDMI (4K 60/50p with HDCP2.2)".

The main issue with most HDMI 2.0 TVs at the moment is HDCP 2.2 uses up too much bandwidth to do 4:4:4. So we need HDMI 2.0 but not HDCP 2.2.
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Is the above still true?
 
WorldExclusive said:
No. TVs made in 2015 can do 4:4:4 via HDMI 2.0 w/ HDCP 2.2 i.e. Samsung.

Samsungs UN6000JU and UN7000JU series does 4:4:4 out of the box.
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That's exceptionally cool then, since I was all but told in 2014 that this would be impossible with HDCP 2.2. Go go gadget HDMI 2.0 :D
 
rtings tests for 1080p@120 now under their 2015 test bench, and the JU7100 does not seem to do it
it says so next to the picture of the subpixels
120fps (1080p): No
 
I have now got reply from a store about new Sonys:

"They don't support 4:4:4. They will start with 4:2:0 (3 GBps on all HDMI ports) and in June they will get upgraded to 6 GBps, 4:2:2 at 60p Ultra HD. That's for all 2015 4K models"

They must mean firmware upgrade.
 
Word from AVS is hardware change. Sony dropped the ball and is including HDMI 1.4 chips (it's not real HDMI 2.0, marketing gimmick) on their 1H 2015 4K TV's. LOL
 
greenman said:
Has anyone found out if they are? The 55 has a good deal: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...X77593a81bbfd2e842af98c82d28ce44f&AID=5399617
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That is last years model you linked to. Only 1080p.

Best buy added the M43-c1 (40" 4k) to their webpage today. I called and asked about availability--should be in stores by next week (at least for the 40" I'm looking at)

According to Vizio's website and the user manual, one HDMI input supports 4k @ 60hz... Hopefully @ 4:4:4. They specifically say this HDMI input is for devices such as high-end PCs, so I really hope so.
 
Crossover 44k VA with 4:4:4 and no LED PWM Dimming/is Flicker Free unlike the Seiki and Samsung TVs.

Wasabi Mango UHD420 IPS with 4:4:4 and no LED PWM Dimming/is Flicker Free unlike the Seiki and Samsung TVs.

Crossovers always have proper brightness controls and I'm pretty sure Wasabi Mangos also do, but I have to search Korean online shops (Prod Danawa) to find this information. The Crossover uses the same panel as the Philips so it might stretch content. I'll ask the OCN member DividebyZero who bought a Crossover to test for PWM and confirm 4:4:4.
 
NCX said:
Crossovers always have proper brightness controls and I'm pretty sure Wasabi Mangos also do, but I have to search Korean online shops (Prod Danawa) to find this information. The Crossover uses the same panel as the Philips so it might stretch content. I'll ask the OCN member DividebyZero who bought a Crossover to test for PWM and confirm 4:4:4.
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Yeah in the meantime a user asked on Danawa.com and the Crossover rep replied that the 44k uses proper Flicker-Free Direct Current dimming.
If the high refresh modes also work as advertised, it could make the Crossover an interesting proposition.
 
Seinfeld said:
I have now got reply from a store about new Sonys:

"They don't support 4:4:4. They will start with 4:2:0 (3 GBps on all HDMI ports) and in June they will get upgraded to 6 GBps, 4:2:2 at 60p Ultra HD. That's for all 2015 4K models"

They must mean firmware upgrade.
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Sony has lost the plot. The major change they focused on with their 2015 sets was how thin they were (and I'm sure PQ was sacrificed to get there). My guess is, they won't be in the TV market for much longer... http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/18/us-sony-strategy-iduskbn0lm05x20150218
 
Sigh...Sony used to make such great displays too. Where did they go wrong? Guess my top contender for a 40+ inch 4k display is still the Samsung for now.
 
you guys have to realize, when you enable 4:4:4 in your precious TV's all picture enhancements including motion plus which is what HZ is all about in modern tv's are disabled.
 
railroadtycoon said:
you guys have to realize, when you enable 4:4:4 in your precious TV's all picture enhancements including motion plus which is what HZ is all about in modern tv's are disabled.
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You don't want any of that motion smoothing stuff enabled with games anyway, it introduces loads of artifacts.
 
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