4K 60Hz 4:4:4 HDMI 2.0 TV Database

tallyhoe said:
Uh oh, after enabling PC mode on Samsung UNHU6840, 6 hours later all HDMI ports except HDMI3 (MHL) which only supports 4:2:0 are dead. I tried a factory reset but no go. :( Did something burn out?
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Only you can find out.
If you have a breakout box, it could be a bad connection or perhaps it overheated and is damaged.
If you are running the TV near a radiator, that can kill it.

Try letting everything cool down and see if anything changes.
 
*Sony X830C* Supports 4k 60Hz @ 4:4:4 with firmware update.

1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4: Yes
1080p @ 120Hz: Yes
4k @ 30Hz @ 4:4:4: Yes
4k @ 60Hz: Yes
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4: Yes
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Input Lag: 36.8 ms
With Interpolation: 69.6 ms
Outside Game Mode: 74.0 ms
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http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x830c

*Sony X850C* Supports 4k 60Hz @ 4:4:4 with firmware update.

1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4: Yes
1080p @ 120Hz: Yes
4k @ 30Hz @ 4:4:4: Yes
4k @ 60Hz: Yes
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4: Yes
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Input Lag: 39.5 ms
With Interpolation: 69.6 ms
Outside Game Mode: 64.2 ms
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They seem able to do 120Hz @ 1080p.

Here is a list of other TV's that can do 4:4:4: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/pc-monitor/best
 
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Hey guys, any input on a 40-42" 4K TV that does 60hz / 4:4:4 (I do a fair bit of reading, and coding, so will 4:4:2 be an issue?) with low - moderate input lag?

I'm looking at the LG 6430, but it seems it has high input lag :) The Seiki has 4:4:2, so meh. Thanks!
 
Looking at Samsung 65JS8500 vs Sony 65X850C vs new Vizio 65P. What would you guys get?
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
Hey guys, any input on a 40-42" 4K TV that does 60hz / 4:4:4 (I do a fair bit of reading, and coding, so will 4:4:2 be an issue?) with low - moderate input lag?

I'm looking at the LG 6430, but it seems it has high input lag :) The Seiki has 4:4:2, so meh. Thanks!
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Best cheapest option is probably still Samsung UN40JU6500
 
Panasonic TH-50CX610Z 50" LED confirmed working at 4:4:4/4k/60Hz on a GeForce 780Ti via DisplayPort using a J5Create JDA158 DisplayPort -> HDMI adapter
 
wildpig1234 said:
Best cheapest option is probably still Samsung UN40JU6500
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Does anyone have any feedback on the UE40JU6000K? It's showing up at cheap prices at the moment and I'd rather buy a Samsung branded unit than an SK import if possible.
 
What about Samsung UE40KU6400 ? Does it support Chroma 4:4:4 on 4k with 60hz on HDMI 2.0 ? I can't find that information anywhere...
 
sybreeder said:
I found that it supports. it says that in the manual and on the review. I ordered one so i'll check by myself :)
It seems that it's the same model as UN40KU6300
Samsung KU6300 Review (UN40KU6300, UN43KU6300, UN50KU6300, UN55KU6300, UN60KU6300, UN65KU6300, UN70KU6300)
KU6400 is a different SKU
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One thing to consider. Are you mainly going to use it as a computer monitor and have no plans of getting into 4K UHD movies? If so, you'll probably be fine with a KU6400 but if you have plans to get into 4K UHD movies with HDR then you will find the KU6400 a lacking compared to the KS8xxx series.
 
Wiz33 said:
One thing to consider. Are you mainly going to use it as a computer monitor and have no plans of getting into 4K UHD movies? If so, you'll probably be fine with a KU6400 but if you have plans to get into 4K UHD movies with HDR then you will find the KU6400 a lacking compared to the KS8xxx series.
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I've ordered it with intention to use it as a monitor. I don't watch 4K movies nor bluerays
Should be good :)
 
Does anyone know if it is possible to utilize one of those TVs for graphics design? (Web, Print, etc). The main question actually is if it can be calibrated to 100% sRGB color coverage and in case of 10-bit panels as close as possible to Adobe RGB (for print).

No gaming at all! Just productivity work so that I can take advantage of the extra work space.

I am almost ready to buy a 32" 4K Professional monitor (Asus PA329Q) that supports the above color spaces but my main worry is that text might be to small and I do not want to use scaling. I prefer moving the monitor closer so it can match my previous 30" 2560X1600 monitor experience as close as possible.

What do you think about the Sony & Samsung TVs at 43" max?
 
JargonGR said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to utilize one of those TVs for graphics design? (Web, Print, etc). The main question actually is if it can be calibrated to 100% sRGB color coverage and in case of 10-bit panels as close as possible to Adobe RGB (for print).

No gaming at all! Just productivity work so that I can take advantage of the extra work space.

I am almost ready to buy a 32" 4K Professional monitor (Asus PA329Q) that supports the above color spaces but my main worry is that text might be to small and I do not want to use scaling. I prefer moving the monitor closer so it can match my previous 30" 2560X1600 monitor experience as close as possible.

What do you think about the Sony & Samsung TVs at 43" max?
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Don't know much about professional color spec but the Samsung KS9500 line (unfortunately smallest is 49") will do93% of DCI-P3 color space vs 90% of the ASUS. There is a fairly detailed review here:

Samsung KS9500 Review - 4k SUHD Smart TV - UN55KS9500, UN65KS9500
 
InWiz33, it does seem to do really well with regards to color coverage however, at 55" (can't see a small one) it is on the huge side for 10 hours a day desktop use. No games no movies in this machine so....

The ideal would be a max of 40" but can't find anything.
 
JargonGR said:
InWiz33, it does seem to do really well with regards to color coverage however, at 55" (can't see a small one) it is on the huge side for 10 hours a day desktop use. No games no movies in this machine so....

The ideal would be a max of 40" but can't find anything.
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Yea, my mistake the 49" is only available in the KS8500/8000 line.
 
My monoprice cable is still on the way so haven't had a chance yet to install it. I am dealing with occasional HDMI handshake problems with my rocketfish cable by using hdmiyo.

Those of you who have had this type of problem - is it better to power the TV or the PC up first? Does it matter?
 
I bought a Sony KD-43XD8305, which is a EU only model and successor to last years Sony X830C US model.

43" (42.5")
4K @ 4:4:4
1080p @ 120Hz
IPS
HDR
10bit (8 + FRC)
Flicker Free

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I love it so far, I don't see any dead or stuck pixels, there is not that much IPS glow, seems to be even less then on my previous 32" 4K.

I like the stand too, it looks nice and it's pretty low so monitor is closer to the desk which is better for the eyes, I don't have to move my head a lot to see everything on the screen. The display seems to be semi glossy.

The text looks a bit small to me with 100% scaling on Windows 8.1, I was expecting it to be bigger considering it's 104 PPI but probably I just have to get used to it.

Didn't game much on it yet, just played League of Legends and it looks lovely. If you want me to test anything, write here.
 
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Seinfeld

I think this Sony model has VA panel... I have the same model.

Anyway, not impressed with the "quality" I first got a unit with horrible back light glow in one corner... now this second one has worked OK for 2-3 weeks, and now I noticed yesterday there is a bright dot like spot on the right side of screen... just appeared out of nowhere...
not a simple defective pixel, but a softly glowing blob?

Anyway, this is my third Sony unit this year so I didn't have too high expectations. I first tried 2015 model (as it has IPS panel) and got bright blobs on screen (12-15 at least), and had to return it.

Other thing that bothers me:
- Slight darkening of left and right edges of screen, but that's about it
- There is no nearest neighbour filtering for 1920x1080, which seems to be really rare for TVs...
- 4:4:4 is not available in all HDMI ports
 
No no, this one is IPS, I would have noticed if it was VA.

So far I am happy with it but I currently use it to watch TV cuz the picture quality is much better then my old TV, but I will maybe connect it to the PC again next week.

I hope I don't start seeing any blobs on the screen.
 
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Bought 43x800d. Will update my thoughts when I receive. Which Sony are you guys talking about Seinfeld and BubbleBob

edit: nvm I can't read. You guys are talking about 43x830c
 
Seinfeld said:
No, as you can see I bought a 43XD8305 which is a EU only model, so not really 43X830C but it's similar.
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Interesting! I wonder why Sony uses different panels for the U.S. vs. European market.

Since it seems to be the X830C model with an upgraded processor and HDR, have you seen either of the two issues that seem to affect the X830C series, namely the faint transient background streaks in 1080p@120Hz mode (mostly visible in dark backgrounds) and the rare screen stutter in 4k 4:4:4 mode?
 
It looks like the 43XD8305 is same as the 43x800d just has better native refresh rate and better motion processor (120hz vs 60hz & xr800 vs xr240). Although that shouldn't make much of a difference in PC use since 60hz will be the max at 4K anyway.
 
Isn't the latency on the Sony's not that great for gaming?

Loving my 18ms on my Samsung KS8000
 
As per ratings, the x800d is about ~33ms for 4:4:4 4k + 60hz + HDR, which is actually less than the KS8000. Of course this is just the panels picked up my rtings, everyones differs a bit.


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Sony X800D
1080p @ 60Hz  Show Help : 33.3 ms
1080p With Interpolation  Show Help : 49.1 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode  Show Help : 49.0 ms
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4  Show Help : 33.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz  Show Help : 35.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4  Show Help : 35.3 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR  Show Help : 33.2 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR  Show Help : 33.2 ms
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d


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Samsung KS8000
1080p @ 60Hz  Show Help : 20.9 ms
1080p With Interpolation  Show Help : 118.9 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode  Show Help : 113.5 ms
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4  Show Help : 37.8 ms
4k @ 60Hz  Show Help : 22.7 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4  Show Help : 37.4 ms
4k @ 60Hz + HDR  Show Help : 21.1 ms
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + HDR  Show Help : 37.6 ms
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8000
 
killerbobjr said:
Interesting! I wonder why Sony uses different panels for the U.S. vs. European market.

Since it seems to be the X830C model with an upgraded processor and HDR, have you seen either of the two issues that seem to affect the X830C series, namely the faint transient background streaks in 1080p@120Hz mode (mostly visible in dark backgrounds) and the rare screen stutter in 4k 4:4:4 mode?
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I only had it connected to the PC for 5 hours and during that time I did not notice any screen stutter. Didn't try 1080p @ 120Hz but I am also not sure what "faint transient background streaks" is, can you show some example? Gonna test CSGO next week at 120Hz and I will report if I notice any issues.

enyownz said:
It looks like the 43XD8305 is same as the 43x800d just has better native refresh rate and better motion processor (120hz vs 60hz & xr800 vs xr240). Although that shouldn't make much of a difference in PC use since 60hz will be the max at 4K anyway.
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Yeah, the main difference is IPS vs VA, and 120Hz vs 60Hz panel @ 1080p, some people prefer that.
 
You're going to have to use it much longer than 5 hours, and even then the stutters may never show up. I went a week without any stutters on my X830C, then had three within a few hours today (just using the desktop).

And the streaks in 120Hz mode look like faint horizontal lines that come and go really quickly, looking something rather like this:

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Apparently, by setting a custom resolution in the nVidia control panel with reduced CVT timings, the streaks no longer display. I've tried it out on my Sony and it seems to do the trick.
 

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Kind of the reason for me to go 4K + 40/43" as well - Screen Real Estate. Whats the inexpensive/ value edition models for that NOW?
Did you find something that fit your needs?

SixFootDuo said:
THANK YOU! I'm ready to move over to 4k but I need 60hz at 4k for my PC. And I want at least a 39" - 40" maybe 42" display.

I will be paying very close attention to this tread and will update here when I can
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JargonGR said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to utilize one of those TVs for graphics design? (Web, Print, etc). The main question actually is if it can be calibrated to 100% sRGB color coverage and in case of 10-bit panels as close as possible to Adobe RGB (for print).

No gaming at all! Just productivity work so that I can take advantage of the extra work space.

I am almost ready to buy a 32" 4K Professional monitor (Asus PA329Q) that supports the above color spaces but my main worry is that text might be to small and I do not want to use scaling. I prefer moving the monitor closer so it can match my previous 30" 2560X1600 monitor experience as close as possible.

What do you think about the Sony & Samsung TVs at 43" max?
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Seinfeld said:
I bought a Sony KD-43XD8305, which is a EU only model and successor to last years Sony X830C US model.

43" (42.5")
4K @ 4:4:4
1080p @ 120Hz
IPS
HDR
10bit (8 + FRC)
Flicker Free



I like the stand too, it looks nice and it's pretty low so monitor is closer to the desk which is better for the eyes, I don't have to move my head a lot to see everything on the screen. The display seems to be semi glossy.

The text looks a bit small to me with 100% scaling on Windows 8.1, I was expecting it to be bigger considering it's 104 PPI but probably I just have to get used to it.

Didn't game much on it yet, just played League of Legends and it looks lovely. If you want me to test anything, write here.
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Hi,

I've just signed in only to ask about this precise panel :)

I'm really dying to know if this info: "1080p @ 120Hz" is a fact, or only a supposition...Because here, in Europe, it's impossible to find any other panel with that specific facility. I lost the "X830C train", and the only other panels reported from pages like rtings are Vizio ones, which are not available here. I can't find, for the sake of my life, any other 4k-60Hz-4-4-4, HDR and high refresh (albeit in 1080p mode).

So, please, If you have actually tried 1080p @ 120 Hz, or anyone has any info of that, I really appreciate your feedback.

Thanks in advance.
 
crashnburn said:
Any updated insights on TCL models available from Amazon in US and India?
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Rtings is my go-to for new US TVs.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p-series-2017-p607

Update 07/18/2017: The TV only shows 4:4:4 color properly when in 'PC mode'. For most sources this is accomplished by changing the input's icon to 'Computer'. For a PC, if the TV detects a PC as its source it forces PC mode, and this cannot be avoided except by intercepting the AVI infoframes sent from the PC. The 4:4:4 input lag measurements were in error, but all input lag measurements have now been updated (essentially unchanged).
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