NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

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  1. Boil

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    I would bend a non-supporting tab on the gpu before cutting a supporting member on the fan...
     
  2. wenrro

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    good morning to you all :)

    is there anywhere a sheet where to check the compatibility of differents RTX cards with the ncase?

    My 1070Ti is dying (85º with undervolting done... and i'm going to return it)

    I dont want to mod the rtx card, so i need a model that stays silent in idle and could maintain good temps (70-75º) under heavy gaming.

    Im playing with a 1440p 144hz freesync monitor.

    Any model that you could recommend? What do you think about a msi 2070 Super ventus for 550?

    https://www.amazon.de/GEFORCE-RTX-2070-SUPER-OC/dp/B07TTSVC7K


    Regards.
     
  3. ranix

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    Hi,

    can someone confirm me that the asus rtx 2080 rog strix a8g gaming fit inside the ncase?

    with the super out, there is a tempting price on this card...

    Many thanks if anyone can confirm me.
     
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  5. Grendell

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    Hello

    Maybe this was already answered somewhere but could I use the v3 top panel with the odd part on the v6 so that i still can mount my odd

    Greetings Chris
     
  6. wenrro

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    Hi!

    Has the google spreadsheet changed? Where are the graphic cards and heatsinks compatibilities list?

    thank you.
     
  7. M1AF

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    Here is what a 2080 ti strix with the fan shroud and bracket ripped off looks like. Also hacked up the gigantic support bracket that said RTX on it.

    qR0BkIP.jpg
     
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  8. teo

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    I saw the remnants of that fan bracket on reddit but I’m not sure I’ve seen performance results. How does it fare compared to your 1080ti/accelero setup?
     
  9. M1AF

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    With the stock silent fan profile I can't get it to go past 64C @ 2040mhz. But I would hardly call it silent. With a much more conservative fan profile I am doing 70C @ 2025mhz. I imagine I'll end up tuning it more and settling in around 75C @ 2000.

    The stock strix sink is doing just as well as an Accelero considering this is a higher TDP card and I'm able to push it a lot further than my dud 1080ti.

    7/10 would hack apart again.
     
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  10. rfarmer

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    Sits right on the fans nicely.
     
  11. ranix

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    First many thanks for the answer on the Asus but I think I will go with a 2080super

    Are they any specific 2080super that you will recommend that fit without any problem and offer good performance?
    Thinking EVGA but not sur which and if they fit.

    thinking about changing the component on my ncase M1
    with a 2080 super
    ryzen 3 3700x
    any mobal with a ryzen 3700X?not sure where to go, I don't think pci e 4 is mandatory. especially if it comes with a new fan that is super loud.
    I have a c14 but not sure it will be compatible so may be a new CPU cooler.
    corsair SF600 platinium
    No idea for the ram but 32 giga, just no idea what I should take to go with Ryzen.
    I already have a 2 to samsung 970evo plus and a 512 ssd 970 evo so a mobal with 2 ssd would be great.

    If there is anyone that can give me advice, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Many thanks
     
  12. wenrro

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    so clean and powerful. I would love to have that on mine...

    Considering that the strix has these dimensions: 30.47 x 13.04 x5.41 Centimeter

    Will this KFA2 fit easily?

    • Dimensions(with Bracket): 295*143*52mm
    • Dimensions(without Bracket): 285*127*52mm (I think that this measures are the ones to be held account)
    It's a 2070 Super.

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    Regards.
     
  13. ranix

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    well kind of the same question, any hope that the MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GAMING X TRIO fit?
    It seems very masssive : 327 * 140 * 55.6 mm

    Seaching my future 2080ti :)
     
  14. wenrro

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    by the way, are you running on a 750 Corsair psu or 600w one?
     
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    750
     
  16. Necere

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    Yes.

    It's been neglected for a long time. Looks like a lot of the old information is gone.

    It's too long for the thickness and too tall for the length.
     
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    Nah it be too big, I am not even sure if there is an SFF case out there that can support that card, maybe the Sliger 580 if you mod it but you are pushing it as maximum GPU length support is 325mm while the length of the Gaming X Trio is 327mm.
     
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    Thanks for the answer regarding the trio.

    are they any 2080ti that you recommand for the Ncase? that fit without any mod and that perform ok temp and noise wise?

    thanks a lot.
     
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    Ive got an x99 setup with my 5820k in my sig.. really eyeing upgrading to a Ryzen 3700x or 3800x. Anyone building a system with the new Ryzen chipsets? I'd love to find a way to keep my aircool solution going
     
  20. Chimpee

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    Hmm FE version is always supported but not sure if you want the FE version though. Below is a list of 2080Ti and their length (scroll all the down for the list).

    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-ti.c3305

    For Ncase M1, the GPU supported dimensions taken from SFF Labs are:

    Cards 2.2 slots (45mm) or less:

    • Length: 317mm
    • Height: 140mm at mid-card, 130mm at rear corner, 125mm at front corner (if over 280mm long)
    Cards over 2.2 slots (45mm):

    • Length: 280mm (with front I/O ports), 290mm (with front I/O ports removed)
    • Height: 130mm, 125mm at front corner (if over 280mm long)
    Note on height limits: please allow 15-20mm for PCIe power connectors
     
  21. Grendell

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    Damit, I missed the answer and now it's out of stock, if someone cansels his Pre-order will it get back in stock so that someone else's will get the possibility to get a early shipping?

    Edit

    Someone must have canceled his or numbers of Pre-orders got raised anyway could place my Pre-order....
     
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  22. Greeley

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    been trying to m1 local but people keep trying to get me to ship but im a bit worried it will get damaged in shipping.


    how safe is it shipping it built? (will use the black box that the case came in)

     
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    I would take either bubble wrap or those little air bags and wrap it around the internal components, think you will be fine.
     
  24. m-jeri

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    That Gfx card and CPU cooler itself will put stress on the PCIe socket and CPU cooler bracket a lot. Perhaps remove them?
     
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    i padded the inside, so things move the least possible
     
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  26. hshot_rooke

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    Sorry, I must be stupid, is the google sheets spreadsheet that has the compatible hardware, cooling, GPU on the first page anymore? The link seems to be there, but I can't find the compatibility worksheet. Was it removed or am I missing something?
     
  27. MB_

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    If you insist on shipping it assembled please have the courtesy to share the aftermath pictures when it arrives completely destroyed. Tall, heavy heatsinks do not ship well. That is a _LOT_ of force being applied when it bounces around.
     
  28. ReaperX22

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    As someone who worked at an online retailer who shipped builds often, it's actually quite rare there's any major issues. We generally used insta-pak where applicable, and that held the heatsink in place quite well in a high majority of cases. This is an ncase m1 with a U9S. Not a giant case with a Noctua NH-D15. If he pads it well internally so that items don't move it should be fine, HOWEVER if I was PERSONALLY shipping this, I would do as someone mentioned and ship the GPU separately. I'd be more worried about the PCIE slot than the heatsink/board frankly. Would also mean packing against the heatsink becomes easier.
     
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  29. Epos7

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    I have an M1 v4 with an X99E-ITX/ac and i7 5820K.

    Starting to get the upgrade itch and looking at a 3900X. Has anyone got one in an NCASE yet?

    I have a Noctua C14 which I love for this case, and it looks to be compatible with socket AM4 with the right brackets. Also have a Corsair SF600 I'd plan to keep, along with my 2080.

    Recommended motherboards for the Ryzen 3000 series in M1?

    Looking forward to getting the USB-C front panel upgrade, too :)

    Thanks!
     
  30. DoubleTap

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    I received an email that the M1 was available to order. I clicked the order button within 90 minutes of the email and its currently sold out.

    Anyone else get notified?
     
  31. Boil

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    Right now you have a whopping two choices; the Gigabyte ITX mobo w/ two M.2 slots, or the ASRock ITX mobo w/ one M.2 slot & one TB3 port...

    ASUS should have their Strix ITX & ROG mDTX boards out towards the end of this month or early September (he said ever so hopefully)...

    Oh, and there might be a Biostar ITX offering...?
     
  32. Necere

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    A few preorder slots opened up due to cancellations. A bunch of people complained about the notifications so w360 has disabled them for now. When the second round of preorders goes live there will be plenty of time to get an order in (days-weeks).
     
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  33. DoubleTap

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    Thanks for the explaination - I know they go fast, but to miss it in 90 minutes late at night was pretty discouraging.
     
  34. Epos7

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    Good to know, thanks. Looking into that Asus that's due out soon...
     
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    Almost seems like the B450 chipset would be a better way to go for 3900X. I'm not planning to do much overclocking, and 20+ second post times sound like the norm on X570. I don't like that. PCI 4 would be nice, but likely not particularly useful in real world applications for some time. And it comes with a hotter chipset and chipset fan.

    Would DDR4 2666 be sufficient on 3900X without an overclock, or would I benefit from faster memory. I know AMD recommends higher, but it's not clear if that recommendation comes with overclocking in mind.
     
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    So I have been mulling a replacement for my 5820k in my NCase and I dunno about pricing wise 3700x vs a 9700k:
    I'd re-use my NH-C14 heatsink, etc.

    For $30-$50 more it seems like I get a consistently better gaming performance going with the 9700k, right?

    3700x for $330
    Mobo for $170. If I go to a 450 mobo maybe I get this down to $125 for a mini itx board
    Memory for $95 (corsair LPX 3600 MHz)
    ~ $550-$590

    9700k for $360
    mobo for $125
    Memory for $95 (corsair LPX 3600 MHz)
    ~ $580
     
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    Multitasking and other apps which have benefit of more cores go with AMD. If mainly gaming and you want to get the highest fps as possible go with INTEL. But it depends on your settings, if you have like a 4K 60 Hz screen you can go for the AMD any time, no benefit with INTEL in this case. If you have more CPU limiting high fps demanding games and lower screen resolution, go with INTEL. In any case it will be upgrade to your previous setup.
     
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    If I understand the reviewers correctly you want 3000 or better. If you plan to overclock get the new 3600 to play it safe. I wouldnt try 2666.
     
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    Thanks, good to know. 3200 seems like the sweet spot price-wise right now. I'd like to upgrade to 32GB, but there are very few 2 x 16 3600 kits.