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Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by Pachalski, Mar 22, 2017.
Weird, I didn't get one yet. I'll have to sign up again
Had you backed the original KS campaign?
All original backers got the email.
Link please, because I see nothing in the Video Cards sub-forum...?!?
Regarding contacting backers, I've had good experiences with BackerKit for some projects I've backed. Not sure what their cut is if anything.
Will price be similar as the last campaign or are we expecting a lower price this time? Sorry if this has already been mentioned.
Oh no, I just signed up for notifications on their website. Although since I signed up for it I haven't gotten any emails so I don't see why I'd get one now lol. They should really be utilizing that. I'm sure there are a bunch of people who have stumbled on their site and signed up for the newsletter, only to be kept in the dark during this whole thing.
Will be lower this time. Was mentioned 2 times or so but no details to pricing yet.
I'm personally not a fan of companies continuously sending me mails - I often choose to unsubscribe when that happens. You are right that we could have been using it a bit more though. Anyway, now that we actually are set on the design, launch plan etc. we will have more actual news and reasons to communicate through that channel.
Up til now the two way channels like this one have been prioritized. Not saying that our presence here will stop, just that we will utilize more channels going forward. Subscribers can expect a mail today =)
You are disqualified for leaking btw
When can we expect to see full build shots of the other finish?
Pachalski I hope the 2nd Kickstarter payment will be in Euro or USD rather than SEK, it was a little bit confusing in the first campaign.
Do i get a special edition then?
Very soon. We are actually considering 3 colors (white painted, dark dark gry and silver) but we need to test the painted one before announcing it publicly. The painted one would need some careful masking not to affect areas where tolerances are critical. We expect to get the painted unit on Friday, silver we can shoot tonight.
Definitely! It will likely end up being €
Haha! Sure, yours will be pink!
I haven't seen much about the bottom hats. Do they work the same as the top hats?
Also, do you think it would be possible to do a custom watercooling loop inside this case? My only concern is where to mount the pump/res. Perhaps if you've used a short GPU it could be possible?
They haven't talked about it too much but from what I've seen they attach the same as the top, just flipped upside down.
I don't think they're going to support custom loops with this iteration of the case at least. I'm sure you could work something out and do it yourself like you said with a shorter GPU. Maybe if enough people ask about it they'll consider mounting points and other water cooling compatibility options for the next iteration.
We could do a BottomHat build to show how they work and post some details here tomorrow. They work almost the same, only difference is that you flip them and put the bottom plate in the bottom of the Hat where then ans etc. can be mounted.
We have some made swedes lined up to help us with a custom loop for the DreamHack event, hopefully we will have time to get on this challenging task and to make it work. Then we will know if it's possible and how it could be done.
Here are some photos of the silver model, the idea is to add this color option to the lineup! so it would be: Dark grey, silver and white (which would be painted instead of blasted and anodized)
Mounting points for custom WC could be done in this iteration before delivery as well, if it's only a matter of some additional holes in the Blade it is almost a no-brainer! No promises, but it could definitely be discussed with the backers during the campaign.
Pachalski It would be nice if there will be a way to install 2 AIO 120 mm like Corsair H55. 1 for CPU and 1 for GPU with Kraken G12.
As far as i see there is one problem: no hole for GPU AIO hoses.
Looking forward for the Kickstarter.
Would it be beneficial to have a small top and bottom hat in a push pull? I’m needing a 100% ram comptaible cooler, so any additional airflow options to keep my 7700k cool would be nice. Not planning an overclock.
I'm in the same boat as you, and I don't think we have the numbers to back up the benefits of fans on both the top and bottom, but I'd assume that any amount of extra airflow helps. That's what I plan to do anyway, four slim noctua fans on the top and bottom.
We have some ideas of adding openings in the top plate for GPU hoses that would allow a dual 120 AIO setup. Will need to take out the jigsaw (is that how you say it?) and test if possible
Actually not sure. A cooler like the L9x65 would draw uncirculated air with or without extra fans. The CPU temps would likely be comparable. But to be honest that cooler does a great job, if you are loading the CPU 100% for a long period of time (rendering, searching for the next prime number etc) the 7700k would probably throttle, even in an open bench. Not all use their computers for this type of tasks and for gaming it would easily cover your needs
Any chance of being able to test a push pull top and bottom slim fan setup like he mentioned? Two in a bottom hat and two in a top hat?
I’m torn between this and doing the large top hat with 240mm AIO. My thing is I fly a lot and I’m not sure if the pressure changes negatively affect the “sealed” AIO system. Not to mention the added weight of the rad is fairly noticeable. I’m using this as a mobile gaming rig... weight and size are a big deal. Honestly I strictly game... so I probably don’t need any more than stock speeds. Got a 980ti so for 1080p I should be good.
Yeah I'm definitely not doing water cooling. I mean I 100% plan to have at least one small top hat with two 120mm slim fans on top for exhaust, my only question would be if it'd be worth the extra $$ for the top hat (on the bottom) plus two more fans. If the temp difference is nonexistent or only a couple degrees then I'm not gonna shell out all that extra cash for a second top hat plus slim fans just to have a slightly noisier computer at the benefit of 2 degrees. I know some people on here are crazy about getting the coolest (temp) computer down to the lowest possible degree, but honestly I prioritize noise level and size over cpu temps.
GPU temps though are what I'm asking for. I doubt having 4 fans instead of 2 is going have a noticeable difference on the CPU, but it might help the GPU out a ton.
We are tying to get out hands on every http://noctua.at/en/nf-a12x15-pwm we can get in Stockholm but they are hard to find. We will run the test as soon as we get them. Currently we have one.
Great to hear!
You planning on doing an open air GPU or blower style? I’d kill to fit the 1080ti Strix. I’m only using Corsair SF600 but that’s recommended power so it should work. Considering the way open air GPU exhausts in the case, a top hat with 2 fans would probably be a solid choice. I’m not sure if he recommends a blower style though to ensure no temperature rise within the case. The only downfall is noise levels.
If you support custom WC i'm a buyer right away ! . Would also like to see some custom WC build in your case with a nice GPU wetercooled .
I'm struggling to find any information on these EK waterblocks dimensions.
Pictures of the case are looking much better than I expected. Will be my next purchase for sure
Open air. I have a Gigabyte 1080 ti and 7700k, and I'll be using the SF600 as well when I get the case (I have a standard ATX PSU now). Ideally the five fans (3 GPU, CPU, PSU) will be the "intake" of the machine, and two slim noctuas in a top hat would be the exhaust. I'll at least have that set up, but I'm curious to find out whether two extra slim noctuas on the bottom as intake will provide much benefit.
I typically don't mess with blower cards though, so having a case that would benefit from an open air cooler would be great (which the Ghost seems to be).
Thanks for being so honest =) I'd say you'll do perfectly fine without the AIO for pure gaming, especially if you will be traveling with it the reduced size is preferable. The AIO will certainly give you more of a wow effect once you have set up your war station!
Here are some more images of the Silver case, inside and out. We brought in the soft boxes this time to give the shots better light. The Mac is NOT mine!
i still haven t understood the plans (or even if there are any) for a windowed side pannel.
any clarification about that?
We have many "upgrades" in the pipeline. Tempered glass side panels are one of them, Tophat with I/O, Tophat with ODD and many more. Before we start producing them we need to get the base platform out.
Note: The tempered glass side panels will be significantly cheaper to manufacture than these with 1 320 CNC milled holes on every side.