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We have a member getting a [H]ardon over this announcement? No specs, not even speculation so what’s all the hoopla about? I want to upgrade my Rift CV1 badly to get rid of GodRays and SDE. So far it’s all sideways with what’s being offered. Not going to get all worked up only to be let down again. Them showing nothing untill the release tells me not to expect miracles. If they had something worthwile they would release the specs to prevent folks from buying something else before the May release.
Probably isnt realWe have a member getting a [H]ardon over this announcement? No specs, not even speculation so what’s all the hoopla about? I want to upgrade my Rift CV1 badly to get rid of GodRays and SDE. So far it’s all sideways with what’s being offered. Not going to get all worked up only to be let down again. Them showing nothing untill the release tells me not to expect miracles. If they had something worthwile they would release the specs to prevent folks from buying something else before the May release.
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You're speculating A LOT!The wood or the fact that Valve is offering us a upgraded HMD choice in May?
Built in headphones, knuckle controllers, superior tracking of HMD and controllers due to lighthouses, optically adjustable IPD, more FOV, full 90Hz refresh and better resolution than Rift S? No brainer for me... will be an instant purchase. Rift S can go pound sand.
Your speculating A LOT!
This thread is hilarious.
Take a look at Valve’s Index teaser pic that they just released with the May 2019 reveal date. They even call it out as an “upgrade” and prominently show an IPD slider.
Then take a look at the leaked Valve HMD from November (which had built in headphones and looks identical to the Index’s shape/details).
Then examine all the Valve Knuckle controller development kits that are actively being used and shown by VR developers on YouTube.
Just not a whole lot of speculation going on here if you actually bother to pay attention and connect some dots. Some speculation? Sure, but to classify it as “A LOT!” just reveals your complete ignorance of everything that has been going on here.
The wood or the fact that Valve is offering us a upgraded HMD choice in May?
Built in headphones, knuckle controllers, superior tracking of HMD and controllers due to lighthouses, optically adjustable IPD, more FOV, full 90Hz refresh and better resolution than Rift S? No brainer for me... will be an instant purchase. Rift S can go pound sand.
You're speculating A LOT!
This thread is hilarious.
Valve haven't exactly got the best record when it comes to hardware. Steam Machines were a failure(and pretty expensive) the Steam link box gave nothing but trouble for a lot of people and you can't even buy it any more. The Steam controller is ok, but, has a learning curve. So I don't understand this "It's a no Brainer for me" just because Valve's name is on it.
It might be all the things you say, but, it still might be a crap headset. Specifications are only part of the story. Look at the Rift S for example, the specs on paper don't seem to be that great, but, all the people who actually tried the headset say it's really good, more comfortable then the Rift, the 80Hz makes no difference compared to 90Hz, The SDE is all but gone, no God rays, people with an IPD of 59 were fine using it, And you have to really go out of your way to lose tracking. While it might not be much of an upgrade for people with Rift/Vive, it seems like it's much better than it's specs suggest.
The rumours that are circulating are that it's FOV is 135 and the res is 1440 by 1600. It doesn't say anything about the refresh rate, but, my guess is that it will more than likely be 80Hz so that it's useable by less powerful systems.
But, if it's a no brainer for you, just wondering what price are you willing to pay for it? If it's going to be all you say it is, then it's going to be expensive, especially when you count the cost of the knuckle controllers. I guess it depends on what market they are aiming for. If it comes in at the same price as the Rift S, chances are neither of the two headsets are going to be much of an upgrade for Rift/Vive users.
You seem to have forgotten that Valve pretty much did all the innovative hardware tech that went into the Vive. Yes, HTC produced it, but Valve did most of the heavy lifting and shared the tech with them.
No brainer for me if it delivers on the things that I’ve listed. I want a true upgrade, not the side grade that Rift S seems to be peddling with Its mediocre res bump. As to what I’m willing to pay, for me personally, anything under $1K would be just fine, but I suspect the HMD itself will come in at around $500 (most likely at cost, as they will make it up in software sales) with the knuckles adding another $200. And yes, this is now becoming a lot more speculative now.
You have the rumors on the resolution predictions all wrong: Check this reddit thread out...
Not yet convinced they’ll go that high on the resolution, we’ll just will have to wait and see. Even if it just offers a resolution bump up to the Vive Pro/Odysses Plus territory, it will still be a better resolution upgrade path than the measly bump the Rift S is offering.
I was an earlier adopter on both the Rift and the Vive... back when they were easily $800+ each fully kitted out. (Rift + Touch + Extra sensor and Vive + deluxe audio strap)
What makes the knuckles so great? They friggin huge. The touch by rift are much smaller and work very good. Is there something about knuckles that are more immersive? Serious question.
Bad news. Display-port 1.2 listed, meaning the displays are low resolution in the Index. If the Index uses the JDI 2,160 × 2,432 as rumored in the Reddit thread, it would need DP 1.3-1.4.
It looks like it uses a single lighthouse 2.0 and inside out tracking as well. This very well could be the best of both worlds as we may get the ease of use of the inside out tracking with the option to upgrade the accuracy and avoid occusion issues by adding in a lighthouse. Need more details and some hands on reports to know for sure.Looks like it still uses lighthouses, if so I'm out.
It looks like it uses a single lighthouse 2.0 and inside out tracking as well. This very well could be the best of both worlds as we may get the ease of use of the inside out tracking with the option to upgrade the accuracy and avoid occusion issues by adding in a lighthouse. Need more details and some hands on reports to know for sure.
No, it's good news. Goal is to display the best possible image quality at a resolution our rigs can actually handle (See Pimax). The resolution this thing will have along with the rumored index lenses sounds as though they'll offer a very high quality experience.
I trust in Valve that this thing will deliver. Day 1 purchase.
Off ya goLooks like it still uses lighthouses, if so I'm out.