- Jun 7, 2008
More interested in what changes they make to the stock Xbox controller.
Very few. AFAIK, it's slightly smaller and has a D-Pad more like that of the elite controller. Otherwise it's basically unchanged, which is exactly how it should be. Xbox already has what most regard as the best gamepad on the market, no need to change what works.More interested in what changes the make to the stock Xbox controller.
Videos like this pop up with every new console generation. They are stupid. For one, we don't have hard specs on what will be in the Xbox. We do know it's all AMD though, so I don't know why he chose an Nvidia card. More importantly though, these videos seem to somehow always ignore the fact that an equally spec game console and PC are very different things. This in absolutely no way would represent what the next generation of consoles will be capable of.
I hope so because just 2 USB-C ports? Fuck if I'm going to have to deal with dongle city like a damned modern cell phone. Good to see it still has an ethernet and optical port, though. Let's hope those don't disappear from the final product.“The Xbox Series X imagery used during the AMD CES press conference was not sourced from Microsoft and does not accurately represent the design or features of the upcoming console,” explains an AMD
Well that's basically the same as not having a PC then if you don't plan on upgrading/using it anymore, so that makes sense. But then I would argue against the Xbone and get the PS4/PS5 since that has all the games that the Xbone currently has (that's worth playing at least besides a couple exceptions) plus its own exclusives, which alone is worth the price of the console IMO.
Yar, same here (in that I play my X more than my PS4). I'll dust off the PS4 to play their exclusives (last one was God of War - great game, btw) but mostly play the Xbox for the Gamepass games. Unless it's a strategy or shooter, I'll usually use the Xbox to play the game versus my PC (mostly for the 'pause shutdown'). I really wish there were more cross save games for Xbox/PC. I could see myself using the PC as my main, but when on work trips, using the Xbox to play the same games on the road.I currently have a PS4 and an Xbox One X. Of the two I play the X more mostly because of gamepass and the better hardware. I'm sure I will buy both again next gen as well. Right now, Sony hasn't really announced anything to be excited about. If the Series X is the more powerful of the two, then I would rather play the multi-plats on that. Plus, it will have all the benefits of Gamepass and backward compatibility. Once Sony has something like 5 or so must play exclusives then I will pick one up. I did that with the 360/PS3 generation and the opposite this current PS4/XB1 gen.
I'm sure we will see this with some titles, but I don't expect a universal "all PS4 games are better on PS5". Maybe things like load times, but certainly not visually. Console games aren't like PC games where they can just run the game on the new hardware and enjoy higher FPS, or tick a box for a higher resolution and call it a day. Frame rates are often hard coded, and sometimes crucial elements like cut scenes, in-game clocks, or physics are tied to this known constant. Unlocking the frame rate could mean breaking other parts of the game. Same goes for resolution, especially in today's games where tricks like checkerboarding or variable resolutions are used. This again is a hard coded thing that needs to be completely reworked to ensure everything looks and performs properly. Even just these two things, even if they don't touch a single asset, will take time and resources (aka money) to make happen.That's one thing I am hoping Sony takes from what Xbox is doing. Instead of remastered versions of games we already own. I am hoping they do "PS5 enhanced" versions that used the same game with updated graphics and what have you. I hate buying the same games over and over. But I do want to see all of those same games take full advantage of the new hardware. Just don't make me pay for them again.
Right now people aren't making a purchasing decision... there is nothing to purchase. I'm sure that official specs will come by the time pre-orders are available. And even if they aren't, you aren't obligated to pre-order. If pre-orders go live and we still don't have specs, just wait until we do. They'll obviously be out before launch, so there will be time to get your order in. And if you are concerned about being closer to the front of the pre-order line, pre-order it from some place that does not charge up front and does not penalize you for canceling. If specs get released that don't justify the price tag to you, you are free to cancel and are no worse off then if you waited.Xbox Hardware Director David Prien doesn't understand why people want to know the hardware specs of the Xbox Series X "so early." He likens the experience to not spoiling a movie until you actually see it. How out of touch can a person be when they don't understand that people want to know what they are buying ahead of time to make a purchasing decision? No, I don't just buy a console based on brand like an idiot.
There's the HDMI 2.1 confirmation we've been expecting. Surprising they aren't using USB-C though; that's genuinely surprising.Thurrott confirmed what the ports look like on the current development model.
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Still important to point out that they can still change by the time the console is released. Right now there is a disappointing lack of USB ports and no USB-C. At least it still has a SPDIF output. I wonder what will replace the proprietary port in the production model.
- SPDIF optical out
- Proprietary debugging port
- HDMI 2.1 out
- USB 3.1 Type-A
- USB 3.1 Type-A
- RJ45 Ethernet in
- AC power in
I'm surprised from a "what can it hurt" standpoint, but it's technically not necessary. External hard drives are still almost all USB-A. There are so mobile oriented USB-C drives starting to pop up, and USB-C flash drives and stuff... but those are rare and the likelihood of someone wanting to plug one into their Xbox is slim. And even if they did want to, USB-C is easily adapted to USB-A. USB-C's advantage really lies in the mobile market, phones, tablets, and laptops are the things making use of USB-C. I kinda wonder if it's a simple cost saving measure. I don't know if USB-C is more expensive to license, or if it's more expensive to put that port on, but hell, even if it costs them a dollar to add USB-C, that is a significant number when they are probably targeting to move 50+ million units. They probably wouldn't see any cost to add USB-C as justifiable when its absence is fixed with a $5 dongle and almost nobody would use it anyway.There's the HDMI 2.1 confirmation we've been expecting. Surprising they aren't using USB-C though; that's genuinely surprising.
It cost a lot more to manufacture since it is such a small connector. IDK how it is now but before the cost was a major concern.I'm surprised from a "what can it hurt" standpoint, but it's technically not necessary. External hard drives are still almost all USB-A. There are so mobile oriented USB-C drives starting to pop up, and USB-C flash drives and stuff... but those are rare and the likelihood of someone wanting to plug one into their Xbox is slim. And even if they did want to, USB-C is easily adapted to USB-A. USB-C's advantage really lies in the mobile market, phones, tablets, and laptops are the things making use of USB-C. I kinda wonder if it's a simple cost saving measure. I don't know if USB-C is more expensive to license, or if it's more expensive to put that port on, but hell, even if it costs them a dollar to add USB-C, that is a significant number when they are probably targeting to move 50+ million units. They probably wouldn't see any cost to add USB-C as justifiable when its absence is fixed with a $5 dongle and almost nobody would use it anyway.
It definitely would have some good uses, which is why I think it's absence is entirely cost related. If were talking about something that could cost Microsoft tens of millions of dollars (or more) to incorporate over the lifetime of the console, they have to be able to justify that. How many people are out there where a USB-C port would be a deciding factor when purchasing this console? I'm 100% certain its nowhere near enough to justify that cost.I think a bit of the hope for the USB-C port is for the possibility of DP 2.0 output.
Hi Jeremy, I am trying to contact you for a previous listing on this forum.I think a bit of the hope for the USB-C port is for the possibility of DP 2.0 output.
Yes, I still have the dock; you may have to read up on the Marketplace rules?Hi Jeremy, I am trying to contact you for a previous listing on this forum.
Was wondering if you still have the Lenovo Graphics Dock? I have been looking for one for months.
As for my contribution to the thread, I do believe that consoles can no longer be compared by specs, rather by its software and services offered to the players. With technology so advance and readily available for both these manufacturers, both will have amazing performance but it is how it is put in front of the players that matters the most. I like the direction of the Xbox, looking like a clean mini-tower.
Plus there are the exclusive titles for each console that just complicate things more. Multiple Xbox exclusive titles have now come to PC as well so that leaves some people with no choice but to buy a PS5 along their PC so they can play all the games they want. Plus I believe that PS has always had more exciting titles and exclusives, so there is that. Overall I felt like Xbox lately relied on a diehard Halo and GoW fanbase. Unless Microsoft steps its game up with new titles, Sony will keep dominating the console game.
I did read them through and I apologize to the admins for maybe posting out of the topic of the thread here, I just was very excited to find one. jeremyshaw can you please send me a PM? This way I can avoid plaguing this thread with this request.Yes, I still have the dock; you may have to read up on the Marketplace rules?
I do agree the HW specs are just one part of the equation, especially since the underlying HW is no longer unique in the way older generations of consoles were. I wonder how many HW sales are driven by exclusives, given that MSFT is practically giving up on the concept.
Hopefully it won't bump the price of the unit too much (like Kinect did for the Xbox One). But, yeah, super cool that they're including a Lenovo Graphics dock with the package.Wait, so Microsoft is including a Lenovo Graphics dock with the Series X?!?
Guys, sorry for the confusion here. I asked him whether he still has a dock for sale here as I could not message or reply to his thread.Wait, so Microsoft is including a Lenovo Graphics dock with the Series X?!?
Noone seems to care about the lack of HDMI input. I am actually somewhat sad about it, as it means I can leave my receiver on the same HDMI all the time. The thing that really put me over the top for Xbox One X was that it could be used as an entertainment hub for 4k BluRay/streaming with Dolby Vision, watching TV, as well as gaming.