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The Outer Worlds 2

I'd even say $60 is fair for this. Though I do agree $70 is still a bit much if the quality isn't improved notably over the first game. Content/length is fine, but animations and conversation camera view is just dated and lazy.
Sure but $60 is pushing it IMO. If I ever buy it it will be when its no more than $40. I've never played a game from them that felt more than merely okay.
 
I put about 90 hours into the first one since I enjoy taking my time, looking around, smelling the roses, and enjoying the visuals. Even at $70, it would offer more on per dollar entertainment than a movie.
For me that game got stale after about 15 hrs, dull gameplay, cramped levels, mediocre combat, writing that failed to be funny clever or compelling. I can't imagine putting 90hrs into that. It wasn't open world and there was no real motivation to explore, $20 game IMO in terms of value derived. I'm assuming id have similar response to Avowed, which is why I haven't bought it, mm will do when its $30?or less. OW2 does admittedly look more ambitious than both but no way does it look $80 good.
 
I put about 90 hours into the first one since I enjoy taking my time, looking around, smelling the roses, and enjoying the visuals. Even at $70, it would offer more on per dollar entertainment than a movie.

A few of the developers at Obsidian have coloured hair, which will completely trigger any anti-DEI activist.

Therefore, at this forum, any Obsidian game will be critiqued with hyperbolic voracity by 95% of the members.

Yes, The Outer Worlds is a terrific game - the atmosphere alone is worth the price of admission - and provides excellent entertainment value for your hard-earned dollar.

Also, don’t be fooled by the fake outrage over the price. If you’ve had even a cursory glance at this section of the forum then it should be laughably clear that the people who are shouting the loudest are pirates and don’t pay for pc games, period. A few of them have openly bragged about this.
 
For me that game got stale after about 15 hrs, dull gameplay, cramped levels, mediocre combat, writing that failed to be funny clever or compelling. I can't imagine putting 90hrs into that. It wasn't open world and there was no real motivation to explore, $20 game IMO in terms of value derived. I'm assuming id have similar response to Avowed, which is why I haven't bought it, mm will do when its $30?or less. OW2 does admittedly look more ambitious than both but no way does it look $80 good.

It was a fun mixture of Fallout and Mass Effect. I enjoyed the main story. I would prefer if it had more cinematic camera angles for conversations and some other quality of life improvements in the 2nd game. Seems like the camera angles aren't going to change.

I also liked New Vegas despite its flaws.
 
A few of the developers at Obsidian have coloured hair, which will completely trigger any anti-DEI activist.

Therefore, at this forum, any Obsidian game will be critiqued with hyperbolic voracity by 95% of the members.

Yes, The Outer Worlds is a terrific game - the atmosphere alone is worth the price of admission - and provides excellent entertainment value for your hard-earned dollar.

Also, don’t be fooled by the fake outrage over the price. If you’ve had even a cursory glance at this section of the forum then it should be laughably clear that the people who are shouting the loudest are pirates and don’t pay for pc games, period. A few of them have openly bragged about this.
Don't pin price complaints as just a bunch of DEI haters complaining. I've been fan of much of Obsidian's work for a while. Loved Avowed but waited for a deal before I played. Not a fan of MS using Obsidian to pilot test price increases. Obsidian has been the victim of too much publisher shenanigans. There's always some nonsense beyond their control that hurt their pay (lost sales, bad deals, terrible promotion). I'm betting that avowed would have gotten far more revenue and profit if they stuck to the $60 price.
 
Don't pin price complaints as just a bunch of DEI haters complaining.

Not what I was doing.

The fact is, we DO have a hardcore anti-DEI brigade here that WILL sling hyperbolic criticism at any gaming company they’ve chosen to despise.

Ubisoft is one of those companies… Bethesda is another… and so is Obsidian.

If Person A has an agenda of hatred, and says nothing good about a game for political reasons, then I’m well within my rights to call bullshit when that person starts bitching about the price of the game… let’s be real here: in this case, Person A was never going to buy the game.

The bitching, in this specific case, is fake. The outrage is fake. A broken clock is right twice a day.
 
T-minus 70 days and counting... I should be done with Avowed by then.. and maybe I'll get back into STALKER 2 to kill some time. ;)
 
That was... a very generic and lame trailer. I don't really expect great Mass Effect grade companions but this look so forgettable. Hard to tell without playing the game, but this trailer seemed more fitting for a battle royale/MOBA/co-op game than a story driven single player game.
 
That was... a very generic and lame trailer. I don't really expect great Mass Effect grade companions but this look so forgettable. Hard to tell without playing the game, but this trailer seemed more fitting for a battle royale/MOBA/co-op game than a story driven single player game.
7 /10
 
it's a gamepass release so I am for sure not paying for anything above what's offered with gp. my gripe from the trailer is the environments look very simple, kind of bland...
 
Since it's no longer $80, I wonder how much content they cut and are now calling "DLC."
 
I really enjoyed the first game but am embarrassed to admit how far I got in the game before I realized that you could trigger your companions' abilities in combat.
 
What worries me the most is how it seems like the first game isn’t really that old, but that it was actually released six years ago, before the pandemic.
 
What worries me the most is how it seems like the first game isn’t really that old, but that it was actually released six years ago, before the pandemic.
Yeah, it blew my mind that the last Borderlands also came out in 2019.
 
That was fucking awful. They wanted that John-Ralphio energy from Parks and Rec but instead they got flop sweat

I guess I'm in the minority but I liked that trailer...did they nail every joke- No...but it was fun compared to the normal game trailer...Ben Schwartz was a great casting choice
 
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It's a Gamepass game. Why would I give Obsidian a $70 interest-free loan when I can pay $16 to access this game and hundreds of others for a month? If I like it, I can do that again next month. It'll take 4 and half months of that to equal what a pre-order would cost.
Ha you know what this woke me up. I was thinking the game would be solid, but if it is a gamepass game then I feel like they kinda just encourage slop sometimes. Thinking about the recent Doom game. That game was straight up mid and sloppy. I would be so upset if I spent $70 on it, but for gamepass its whatever, just pushing slop out.

I can see it going either way - either the devs can experiment more since they know they have the gamepass payout to fall back on, or it turns into slop because they know they have the gamepass payout to fall back on. Doom was the latter.
 
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