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The Nintendo Switch 2 Thread

Side note, anyone mod their switch? Thinking about it now since 2 is on the way and I'm not aware of any games launching before then.
 
emphy said:
At least there won't be any name-induced confusion about what it is.

Bigger issue is that I'm seeing zero esthetic improvement in that kart game. It'll be all fancy raytraced and deeply learned superbly sampled, I'm sure, but to me it still looks like the tired old wii u version we got on the switch.
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Yeah I would like to see something like the style from Mario Wonder
 
emphy said:
At least there won't be any name-induced confusion about what it is.

Bigger issue is that I'm seeing zero esthetic improvement in that kart game. It'll be all fancy raytraced and deeply learned superbly sampled, I'm sure, but to me it still looks like the tired old wii u version we got on the switch.
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LOL. I was giving my son a bath and told him that the Switch 2 was coming, I mentioned that there will be a new Mario Kart game and he said that it'll probably have cool graphics. That brief moment from the Switch 2 trailer flashed in my mind and I told him that it probably won't look much better than Mario Kart 8.
 
I know a guy who quit his Walmart job after the Nintendo Wii came out. I bought a switch 4 months ago was worried about how bad the OLED screen would be but it's perfect. I'm wondering if new games will require a Switch 2 or will be launched on both systems.
 
As with all Nintendo hardware, I don't want one. What I do want is more Mario Kart, Smash, Mario Party, Mario Golf, etc. so I'm gonna have to buy one. I'm just going to hope they aren't too tough to find and they aren't that expensive. I have the money to pay whatever they're asking, but I hate spending money on something I know it going to collect dust between major releases.
 
Domingo said:
As with all Nintendo hardware, I don't want one. What I do want is more Mario Kart, Smash, Mario Party, Mario Golf, etc. so I'm gonna have to buy one. I'm just going to hope they aren't too tough to find and they aren't that expensive. I have the money to pay whatever they're asking, but I hate spending money on something I know it going to collect dust between major releases.
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The Switch can be great for for 3rd party titles if you play to its strengths as a good indie 2D or 1st-5th gen console (N64/PS1 era) port/remaster device. Switch 2 should extend that out to 8th gen (PS4/Xbone). There's tons of titles I missed in those gens, so I appreciate when those ports come so I can play them on the go. I just hope the Switch 2 isn't much bigger than the current one so it's not Steam Deck sized or something, losing that advantage over current PC handhelds.

Since they're dropping the OLED display, I hope they at least put a good IPS in it and also support VRR so when games inevitably dip below 60 it can help out a bit. But not counting on VRR support at all and would be surprised if it does.
 
T4rd said:
The Switch can be great for for 3rd party titles if you play to its strengths as a good indie 2D or 1st-5th gen console (N64/PS1 era) port/remaster device. Switch 2 should extend that out to 8th gen (PS4/Xbone). There's tons of titles I missed in those gens, so I appreciate when those ports come so I can play them on the go. I just hope the Switch 2 isn't much bigger than the current one so it's not Steam Deck sized or something, losing that advantage over current PC handhelds.

Since they're dropping the OLED display, I hope they at least put a good IPS in it and also support VRR so when games inevitably dip below 60 it can help out a bit. But not counting on VRR support at all and would be surprised if it does.
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The thing is, I don't really want another portable system (especially not a giant one that isn't really portable) and I don't want re-releases or last-gen remasters of old games, either. What I really want is Mario Kart running in 4K at 120 frames per second via actually viable network play. Smash, Mario Party, Metroid, Mario Golf, etc. too. There are tons of Nintendo titles I love that are being hamstrung by Nintendo's underpowered hardware and a horrible online experience. That doesn't seem to be changing, but I'll at least hope they can improved the online portion. Still, with so many people playing on the go via shaky-ass Wi-Fi networks I don't know if that's ever going to get better.
 
Domingo said:
The thing is, I don't really want another portable system (especially not a giant one that isn't really portable) and I don't want re-releases or last-gen remasters of old games, either. What I really want is Mario Kart running in 4K at 120 frames per second via actually viable network play. Smash, Mario Party, Metroid, Mario Golf, etc. too. There are tons of Nintendo titles I love that are being hamstrung by Nintendo's underpowered hardware and a horrible online experience. That doesn't seem to be changing, but I'll at least hope they can improved the online portion. Still, with so many people playing on the go via shaky-ass Wi-Fi networks I don't know if that's ever going to get better.
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Fair enough. I don't think Nintendo would fair as well trying to compete with with Playstation and (dying) Xbox in that class of hardware though. They've been way too successful with the Switch and previous portable consoles. And personally I have no issues going from 4k/120Hz on my PC to 720/30 on my Switch either. So I'm by no means a PCMR guy despite enjoying PC hardware and versatility.
 
I, too, will buy a Switch 2 for Metroid Prime 4. Metroid games are the system sellers, for me.
 
Blackstone said:
Nothing ever changes. They are launching in 2025 with 4 year old hardware. At first it will seem very capable, but ultimately it will not keep pace with PC handhelds for third-party titles.

It is a must own product for first party titles but if the launch title is mario kart, i’ll probably hold off for a year for an oled model. If Metroid Prime 4 is enhanced by it, however, I probably won’t be able to resist.

It is of course a ridiculous amount of power to apply toward first-party titles. We’ve never had a Nintendo this spec’d, and we’re guaranteed at least a few spectacular titles.
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I just hope it’s a decent IPS with zone dimming. It’ll be a huge display downgrade if it isn’t. I’ll buy day 1 regardless if Switch titles like TOTK get a resolution / fps upgrade. If they don’t I’m going to skip as it initially will be a downgrade from the switch OLED if the old games run exactly the same anyways. I’m also not sure if I like the bigger size. It’s already big enough if used mobile IMO.
 
I don't want the Switch 2's hardware to drag down the other console ports, either. We're probably going to be back in the boat of the PS/XB/PC getting the "real" version of a multiplatform game and Nintendo getting some weird alternate version made by another studio.
 
Domingo said:
I don't want the Switch 2's hardware to drag down the other console ports, either. We're probably going to be back in the boat of the PS/XB/PC getting the "real" version of a multiplatform game and Nintendo getting some weird alternate version made by another studio.
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Hey hey hey. I liked Far Cry on the Wii. :D.

No I didn't.
 
Mchart said:
I just hope it’s a decent IPS with zone dimming. It’ll be a huge display downgrade if it isn’t. I’ll buy day 1 regardless if Switch titles like TOTK get a resolution / fps upgrade. If they don’t I’m going to skip as it initially will be a downgrade from the switch OLED if the old games run exactly the same anyways. I’m also not sure if I like the bigger size. It’s already big enough if used mobile IMO.
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It's NOT going to have zone dimming. In fact I'd be surprised if it's HDR at all.

Nintendo is not about creating cutting-edge or anything beyond the bare minimum to produce a unique experience. No sense trying to compete with the AMOLED screens in every pocket attached to devices that cost $1K +.

Instead, Nintendo sourced a basic 1080p screen that probably costs less than $20 per unit and sell it in a device that will cost around $300 and make a profit.
 
KazeoHin said:
It's NOT going to have zone dimming. In fact I'd be surprised if it's HDR at all.

Nintendo is not about creating cutting-edge or anything beyond the bare minimum to produce a unique experience. No sense trying to compete with the AMOLED screens in every pocket attached to devices that cost $1K +.

Instead, Nintendo sourced a basic 1080p screen that probably costs less than $20 per unit and sell it in a device that will cost around $300 and make a profit.
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Pretty much. I think 720p makes better sense for mobile though, so I doubt they'll even do 1080p for it. I'm going to be pretty annoyed if they price this at $400 with an LCD though. As I think at that price they could easily put an OLED in while still making a decent profit on the console. It's kinda insane the original Switch never got a price drop too.. That thing prolly costs $40/piece to make now, lol.
 
T4rd said:
Pretty much. I think 720p makes better sense for mobile though, so I doubt they'll even do 1080p for it. I'm going to be pretty annoyed if they price this at $400 with an LCD though. As I think at that price they could easily put an OLED in while still making a decent profit on the console. It's kinda insane the original Switch never got a price drop too.. That thing prolly costs $40/piece to make now, lol.
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The Switch 2 will probably be quite expensive, it seems to me (500 euros). And their AAA games are also expensive. It should be quite powerful in terms of hardware because it will also play Xbox games (on TV). These are just my predictions.What will happen with the old switch 1, will they continue to produce it, reduce the price, I have no idea.
 
You seem to be casting a wide net, there.

Though I'd add a new 3D Mario platformer like Odessey, Galaxy, etc. at launch.
 
Domingo said:
The thing is, I don't really want another portable system (especially not a giant one that isn't really portable) and I don't want re-releases or last-gen remasters of old games, either. What I really want is Mario Kart running in 4K at 120 frames per second via actually viable network play. Smash, Mario Party, Metroid, Mario Golf, etc. too. There are tons of Nintendo titles I love that are being hamstrung by Nintendo's underpowered hardware and a horrible online experience. That doesn't seem to be changing, but I'll at least hope they can improved the online portion. Still, with so many people playing on the go via shaky-ass Wi-Fi networks I don't know if that's ever going to get better.
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I'd rather have a 3DS successor with full backward compatibility.
 
Some coincidences around the net suggest that Final Fantasy 9 remake will be shown with Switch 2. May be a timed exclusive.
 
Domingo said:
The thing is, I don't really want another portable system (especially not a giant one that isn't really portable) and I don't want re-releases or last-gen remasters of old games, either. What I really want is Mario Kart running in 4K at 120 frames per second via actually viable network play. Smash, Mario Party, Metroid, Mario Golf, etc. too. There are tons of Nintendo titles I love that are being hamstrung by Nintendo's underpowered hardware and a horrible online experience. That doesn't seem to be changing, but I'll at least hope they can improved the online portion. Still, with so many people playing on the go via shaky-ass Wi-Fi networks I don't know if that's ever going to get better.
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There's not a single non-portable console that have games offering that kind of experience.

Not to mention, you can get 120FPS 4K on a Raspberry Pi if you design the game around that spec. It would just look several generations out-of-date. Give developers more power, and they're going to target that 1800p 30ish FPS or 1200p 60ish FPS, because time and time again, people are fine with it. VERY FEW games offer a "potato graphics" 4K 120FPS mode, but just about any game on PC can do that if you turn down all the details to their lowest.
 
chameleoneel said:
Some coincidences around the net suggest that Final Fantasy 9 remake will be shown with Switch 2. May be a timed exclusive.
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I'll believe it when I see it. Rumors about it have been flying around for many years. I believe it as much as that oblivion UE remake that will supposedly release imminently.

I love 9, but it is one of the lowest selling titles in the franchise, so I don't see it getting the remake treatment.
 
I hope the upgrade packs aren't more than $10, I own Breath of the Wild but put it off because I wanted a smoother experience, so I'll be going the upgrade route. I'm surprised that 4K is an option, but judging by the graphics, it looks like they probably keep detail low to make 4K playable. Think I'll stick with 1080p.
 
At least they seem to understand that people want to play these games online. The chat stuff seems like a step in the right direction. That was one of my biggest issues with the first system.
Not sure what I think of the new Mario Kart. It's a little like Need for Speed with the open world stuff. It'll either be next-level awesome or overblown.
 
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I hope the upgrade packs aren't more than $10, I own Breath of the Wild but put it off because I wanted a smoother experience, so I'll be going the upgrade route. I'm surprised that 4K is an option, but judging by the graphics, it looks like they probably keep detail low to make 4K playable. Think I'll stick with 1080p.
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Yeah, hoping it's no more than $10, or the price difference between Switch1 and Switch2 software (I imagine they're going to be priced the same as PS5 and XSX titles now). Still, exactly what I was hoping for and the reason I held off playing ToTK.

I noticed during one of the UI demonstrations, 1440p was an option for output - I'm not expecting gameplay @ 1440p, but if I can get a nice sharp 1440p image for the system menus, that'd be great. The Switch menu performance and sharpness was another criticism of mine.

Blackstone said:
LCD screen 😢
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Big letdown that.
 
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VERY interesting. An exclusive that clearly takes place in the Bloodborne universe. Graphics (unsurprisingly) don't look that great, but they'll be good enough.
 
No pricing? Or is that going to be later today when the website goes live? Seems weird to be this close to launch but no pricing information.
 
They might be doing a CYA with tariffs and pricing. They mentioned that the Switch 2 site will launch today with more details, so we might get a look at the price tags then. Since MK is a 100% must-buy for me, I definitely want that bundle. I'll hope pre-orders aren't as sudden and chaotic as the PS5.
 
Domingo said:
They might be doing a CYA with tariffs and pricing. They mentioned that the Switch 2 site will launch today with more details, so we might get a look at the price tags then. Since MK is a 100% must-buy for me, I definitely want that bundle. I'll hope pre-orders aren't as sudden and chaotic as the PS5.
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European ones are up, looks like 4/8/2025 (edit: that's for EU apparently, for the USA it is 4/9) preorder date and a tag of 470 euros, so around $450 in the US. Kinda was already expecting a $400 price tag, so I'll still get it.

EDIT: Yep, $450 is it. https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2025/04/nintendo-switch-2-priced-at-usd449-99-for-the-base-console
 
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I can swing $450, but I have a distinct feeling I'm probably only going to end up playing 4-5 games on this thing and then it'll gather dust again. Mine will also probably never leave the dock, too. At least I'll finally have a new Mario Kart and a pseudo Bloodborne sequel/spinoff.

EDIT: Looks like the MK bundle version is $50 more, so I suppose it doesn't really matter which bundle I get. It's basically a wash.
 
I'm going to assume older accessories like the Pro Controller and older Joycons should still work with it, but they aren't going to have all the same functionality. I'm also going to assume the triggers still won't be analog, though.
 
Blackstone said:
This may be the most lame console launch in Nintendo’s history, frankly.
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Definitely feels like one of the 'safest'. I'm going to wait for DF's technical breakdown on the S2 enhancements for ToTK, and, if I can, I'm going to hold out for the eventual OLED version too.
 
I'm going to assume any Switch 1 titles will need a software update to unlock the framerate? Something tells me everything out-of-the-box will be 30fps limited.

Quite a weak launch title list. The new FromSoft IP, The Duskbloods, might draw some people though whenever it launches.
 
Absalom said:
I'm going to assume any Switch 1 titles will need a software update to unlock the framerate? Something tells me everything out-of-the-box will be 30fps limited.

Quite a weak launch title list. The new FromSoft IP, The Duskbloods, might draw some people though whenever it launches.
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Yes, on per game basis and you have to pay for the update.
 
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