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PS3 camping update

Just drove by the local BB here in Rochester, saw about 6-10 tents set up in front of the store. They couldn't ask for better weather, though, considering that it's Minnesota. Lows in the mid 20s, highs in the mid 40s, no snow.

It is tempting to try Sam's Club early Friday morning, but it's a 35 minute drive for me to town, and I don't feel like getting up early just to end up going in to work empty handed at 4AM.
 
shadowwyvern said:
Does Sony deliberately create these launch shortages? I would think they would have learned something from the PS2 launch, which as I recall was as bad as this... If I owned a store, it would be tickets only, no reason to chance some idiot suing the roof off of my establishment...
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I think they have real tough issues with the blue laser diodes, problems in manufacturing I think.
 
When camping for extended periods of time, is it normal to wear a diaper? :confused:
 
Every walmart within 100 miles is officially full, minus one doing a mad rush type deal at 8PM thursday night. I'm guessing they'll just end up doing a lottery because so many people will be arguing and pushing and stuff. Every place that requires camping outside are already full minus those with restrictions on lines (about 1/2 had time restrictions). I live in IA, so if you live in a larger area than IA, I'm pretty sure you are screwed.
 
four out of five 24 hour walmarts in Kansas city have full claims in the spots

the fifth one has 5 out of 6 spots already filled.

It's a day early and it's 30 degrees outside....they are making the people wait outside in line.

crazy.
 
santaliqueur said:
so people who sell a product for what it is worth are as bad as child rapists? you are a communist, whether you know it or not. capitalism is one of the things that makes this country great.
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Actually, I'm a socialist. And capitalism is one of the things that made this country great until corporations took it over, and now even individual people can only think in terms of net profit.

By the way, that sentiment technically makes me an anti-tool, not a tool. You're the one whose happiness apparently hinges upon commercial products. I'm not saying everybody should give up all their material goods and all become hippies, I'm just saying that there's a code of ethics involved...and screwing other people over for personal gain is one of those things that you should probably know is unethical, yet you insist on rationalizing it anyway. And yes, you most certainly are screwing them over - don't give me that stuff about how it's free choice. You're obviously artificially lessening supply even more, where there wasn't exactly abundance to begin with. Continue to rationalize your behavior if you like, I stick by my ethics, and I don't think they're stupid.
 
You make valid points final, however ethics and society don't always meet. This is in fact a nation where money > *. You trying to argue this is kind of a moot point. You can also look at it on the other side of the coin, a $600 console is NOT a necessity and it doesn't really have anything to do with ethics.
 
finalgt said:
Actually, I'm a socialist. And capitalism is one of the things that made this country great until corporations took it over, and now even individual people can only think in terms of net profit.

By the way, that sentiment technically makes me an anti-tool, not a tool. You're the one whose happiness apparently hinges upon commercial products. I'm not saying everybody should give up all their material goods and all become hippies, I'm just saying that there's a code of ethics involved...and screwing other people over for personal gain is one of those things that you should probably know is unethical, yet you insist on rationalizing it anyway. And yes, you most certainly are screwing them over - don't give me that stuff about how it's free choice. You're obviously artificially lessening supply even more, where there wasn't exactly abundance to begin with. Continue to rationalize your behavior if you like, I stick by my ethics, and I don't think they're stupid.
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true

however if i had 3 or 4 PS3s i would sell them all and with the $2,000 profit or so i would spend it all on electronics - laptop for school, hdtv, 360. so in other words i would be helping out the economy.

how many of you selling the ps3 are putting your profit straight into the bank?
 
pretty much done here in Chino, Chino Hills CA area all full i lost hope if ne one knows ne place round here that i still may have a chance please let me know
 
sabrewolf732 said:
You make valid points final, however ethics and society don't always meet. This is in fact a nation where money > *. You trying to argue this is kind of a moot point. You can also look at it on the other side of the coin, a $600 console is NOT a necessity and it doesn't really have anything to do with ethics.
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We have a winner.

This is a luxury item, pure and simple. Nobody will die without one; nobody will starve, or suffer, or be injured without one. Nobody here is going to hold a gun to someone's head to force them to pay a certain amount for the system. If they want it, they can get it; if not, they can wait just like most other people.
 
Hulk said:
true

however if i had 3 or 4 PS3s i would sell them all and with the $2,000 profit or so i would spend it all on electronics - laptop for school, hdtv, 360. so in other words i would be helping out the economy.

how many of you selling the ps3 are putting your profit straight into the bank?
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I pre-ordered 2 so I'll hopefully make $1500, which will probably go directly into getting a laptop for school. I was hoping to take a friend and camp and get a couple more like I did with the 360 last year, but people are going crazy this year over the PS3.

I curious to see what these will go for on eBay. It'd be funny to see 300,000 of the 400,000 in NA going on ebay.


Last year I put my profits from the 360 directly into my own 360 and an HDTV.
 
There aren't going to be 300K or 400K in the United States.

Sony cut shipments to around 285K yesterday. It's why this shit has gotten so far out of hand. They're not even close to the revisions of their revisions...
 
Whelp.. it seems like Science is smiling upon me (SP joke).
There's a big thunderstorm rolling into NYC tomorrow afternoon into tomorrow night with flash flood warnings being given across the city.
Hehehehe.
Looks like I just might have a spot once the winds + rain calm. :)
Except.. I'm not planning on going to the Union Square spot this time. lol

That is, unless... these people are THAT hardcore/retarded to just sit there on lawn chairs during a thunderstorm. lol
 
I stopped into work on my way home from class since I pass it. As I walked up at about 9:45 one of the Managers was out giving a short speech. There were already more people waiting then systems we had, but we are supposed to get a few more. So he told everyone who was pretty much guaranteed a system, and the few people afterward that they should get one too as long as some act of god doesnt keep the truck from delivering the rest.

Let me say the boxes sure are purdy... And huge....
 
I tired for the pass 6 hours to find a store that didn't have a line. I called every Mejier, BB, CC and Wal-mart and Target in Columbus, and the vicinity which are like 1 hor East, west, south and north every single store had a line.
 
Sacramento Fry's has a mini tent city. BestBuy and Target were empty, dunno what their doing.
 
I have constant internet access and electricity so ill try and update frequently if theres anything interesting. I have a nice tent and enough food entertainment and sex (girlfriend is with me ) for the next 30+ hrs.
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Man you crack me up... I think the problem is not the low supply of consoles but the crazy people and college students that are willing to camp out for days just to get a console that will be old news in the next 3 months. To many people in the U.S. cant wait and have patience on their impulses... I guess this is why the rest of the world looks at us as dumb impulse buying consumers :eek: a lot of people need the instant gradification of getting something right away.
 
nullzero said:
Man you crack me up... I think the problem is not the low supply of consoles but the crazy people and college students that are willing to camp out for days just to get a console that will be old news in the next 3 months. To many people in the U.S. cant wait and have patience on their impulses... I guess this is why the rest of the world looks at us as dumb impulse buying consumers :eek: a lot of people need the instant gradification of getting something right away.
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It's for the money there going to make off of it
 
So i stopped by fry's Circuit city today to check out the lines, seems like the allotment for each store has been spoken for since this morning judging by the numbers that camped out next to the stores.

Brokaw Fry's is supposedly getting 35 60gb versions and 6 20gb versions, Circuit City at eastridge is getting 10 60Gb versions and 6 20gb versions. Brokaw Fry's is actually taking a list of campers and updating it every so often at midnight. No lottery's this time
 
I must of called 20 or 30 stores here in columbus, ohio and most said they were getting 6-10. I find it hard to believe that those stores will be getting those units. The math doesn't seem right o me. This is just one city out of hundredes.
 
The profit that they make off of one PS3 will be worth the same if you worked the +30 hours spent camping outside a store.
 
nullzero said:
The profit that they make off of one PS3 will be worth the same if you worked the +30 hours spent camping outside a store.
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Don't you think that depends on their hourly rate?
 
Lets say they make 8 dollars an hour and they camp for 48 hours(since it seems to get a console guranteed you need to camp 2 full days) That is $384 from working. I dont think these people are going to get more then $1.2k on the 60GB version of the PS3. After everything said and done you may pull in about $400 profit but was it worth it camping out for 2-3 days in the cold.
 
Exatcly. Sony would tear them a new one if a store sold their PS3's early
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Yeah right. Considering Walmart or BB's networth, any fines would only be considered a slap on the wrist. Sony has more of a threat to say that it would offer its competitors a better deal or earlier streetdate. I highly doubt Sony's business model would do anything to ever harm one of its retailers.
 
nullzero said:
Lets say they make 8 dollars an hour and they camp for 48 hours(since it seems to get a console guranteed you need to camp 2 full days) That is $384 from working. I dont think these people are going to get more then $1.2k on the 60GB version of the PS3. After everything said and done you may pull in about $400 profit but was it worth it camping out for 2-3 days in the cold.
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I was waiting for someone would chime in on this angle but... 8 dollars an hour is 8x24 for 3 days = $192 in lost earnings, or $128 lost for 2 working days (assuming 8 hour worrking days). Just like when you go home after work...they don't pay you for your free time, eat, sleep, commuting time. Nobody is putting in 48 straight hours (alert, awake and not eating, shitting or sleeping) out there camping.

Your probably right on the ~$400 profit. I would bet most people camping and intending to sell it on ebay probably do make around $8 an hour. Just a coupe of days calling in sick to work to still come out to + $250 ($400 profit -$128 in lost wages).

People making +$25 (25x16=$400 lost wages for 2 days) are probably few and far between out there and actually want the system.
 
megawzrd said:
Just a couple of days calling in sick to work to still come out to + $250 ($400 profit -$128 in lost wages).
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Well, I don't know if I would try the calling into work sick angle. All it takes is someone you know from work heading to BB, Walmart or whereever you're camping and it's now $250 plus your severance pay. I doubt many employers would understand anyone's need to call in sick to work because they need to camp the PS3.
 
nullzero said:
Lets say they make 8 dollars an hour and they camp for 48 hours(since it seems to get a console guranteed you need to camp 2 full days) That is $384 from working. I dont think these people are going to get more then $1.2k on the 60GB version of the PS3. After everything said and done you may pull in about $400 profit but was it worth it camping out for 2-3 days in the cold.
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...pre-orders were going at prices ranging from $1000~2000, and that was when there was still a chance that people could actually get them at stores at launch. When people come home empty handed on Friday and see reports that a major shipment likely won't come until next year, the prices are going to go up, not down.

$2000 is a conservative estimate, IMO.
 
nullzero said:
To many people in the U.S. cant wait and have patience on their impulses... I guess this is why the rest of the world looks at us as dumb impulse buying consumers :eek: a lot of people need the instant gratification of getting something right away.
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I seem to remember seeing these same lines in Japan last week, and I'm sure we'll see them in Europe upon their release. In fact, I'd wager that this exact same thing would occur in any modern country/culture where people want something and have been waiting for it, and there were limited supplies available.

Not that I don't think it's funny anyway, but it's not just the US that sees these lines.
 
Sky15 said:
I must of called 20 or 30 stores here in columbus, ohio and most said they were getting 6-10. I find it hard to believe that those stores will be getting those units. The math doesn't seem right o me. This is just one city out of hundredes.
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I made a mistake with Circuit city's numbers they are actually getting 12 60gb units instead of 10, my buddy works at that circuit city. He's and a buddy is camping out for one, He can't buy it due to some policy but his buddy can so they are going to split the profits as they wait in shifts.

I talked to Fry's in Campbell They wouldn't spill the numbers, there were close to 20 ppl at noon there so i drove up to brokaw, saw a buddy of mine lined up there. Had a talk with him and he said that store is getting 35 60gb units + also heard it from the guy who was doing the campers check list.
 
TheOmniscientCreator said:
I think that the midwest may be easier when it comes to getting the PS3.
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Think again.

We have people already at Best Buy, Circuit, and Target in tents... in 30 degree wind and rain with 25 mph wind as of 4pm Wednesday the 15th. There are already more people in line at CC then there are units.

I'll be skating on over to sams club about 4am on the 17th, if theres a huge line, meh, I'll go home and go to bed. If there isn't, it's waitin' time.
 
Kahnvex said:
Think again.

We have people already at Best Buy, Circuit, and Target in tents... in 30 degree wind and rain with 25 mph wind as of 4pm Wednesday the 15th. There are already more people in line at CC then there are units.

I'll be skating on over to sams club about 4am on the 17th, if theres a huge line, meh, I'll go home and go to bed. If there isn't, it's waitin' time.
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Yea, I stand corrected. Pretty insane....after all is said and done, it's still a game system, and you can get it cheaper in a year or so.
 
Man, I just called our 24hr. Wal-Mart and they said they are getting two and there is only one person waiting right now. Wonder if the boss would let me off lol.
 
MarvynDT said:
Yeah right. Considering Walmart or BB's networth, any fines would only be considered a slap on the wrist. Sony has more of a threat to say that it would offer its competitors a better deal or earlier streetdate. I highly doubt Sony's business model would do anything to ever harm one of its retailers.
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Well, they can never meet demand on launch day anyway, so maybe next launch they just won't give that retailer as many units (or none at all depending on how widespread the break is). There's plenty of other stores out there to create enough hype and attract enough consumers. Nintendo had its dates broken on gc (3-4 days, I couldn't get one but I remember a lot of people did) and the ds lite (got mine 10 days early) but frankly, they put out enough units that they can't do anything about it. They aren't nearly as scarce- plus, nintendo is making money off its hardware while sony isn't, so they have every incentive to stay on good terms with all the retailers.
 
so heres a little update from my camp

we got here yesterday at 8am.....its been pretty warm so far. after the store closed and the employees went home we cracked open some beers and tossed a football around. at around 3am most of us crashed and went to sleep. it rained pretty hard for a little bit from about 6am to 8am.

most of us woke up this morning to the manager telling us that their shipment had been cut from 15 to 8 and that they were only getting 8 60GBs. It really sucked for the 7 other people that had been waiting in line. they now have a big sign in the window stating that fact.

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camping has been pretty cool so far. the other people in line are really cool. whats getting really annoying though is the constant asking of what we are doing with the tents by customers. each of us come up with a different funny response

Customer: whatcha waiting for?
me: the golden girls box set comes out friday.
friend: theyre having a huge sale on batteries
other guy: im waiting for the black friday sales
other guy: beenie babies
other guy: world series tickets
Customer: damn u guys are crazy!
 
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