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Payday 2

The problem to me seems that the developer, Overkill, seems really out of touch with the community. I have no idea where they are getting this "community feedback" from because it for sure isn't most people playing, just take a look at the steam forums. We want more content, not force us to grind hours upon hours just to level up and get money. I feel bad for the new guys, but there is hope with the money at least(most unimportant part right now) since I read it might just be an issue with the multiplier per bag.

The whole rats/firestarter/framing frame xp runs got pretty boring, but this patch is making me quit until something changes. I have GTA V on the way next week so I couldn't care less for now, but it better be fixed when I get back!
 
Yeah, this patch was insulting. Not too confident with management over at Overkill.
 
A game like this should really have a map+mission editor.

Remember when that stuff existed, before DLC? :-(
 
Ukraine job is the jewelry store nub. It is all I will be doing (for card flips) until I get super bored or unless they fix all the shit they fucked up.

Luckily BF3 and Ghosts are coming soon!
 
I quit after playing two three round after the patch. I suppose it is a but more realistic that the cops can take you down in two three his, but that's not why I played this game.
 
Brules said:
Ukraine job is the jewelry store nub. It is all I will be doing (for card flips) until I get super bored or unless they fix all the shit they fucked up.
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Ukrainian Job is a Jewelry Store job that takes longer and had more of a chance of an escape. The upside is that you get more XP for Ukrainian, but if you are level 100 and just want cards, Jewelry Store on Normal is way better. Hell, you can solo it pretty quickly even.

I will probably play around with stealthing Diamond Heist a bit, but yeah...overall I think my interest in this game is waning given the direction they seem to want to take with it. Which is a bummer, because I've enjoyed the 100+ hours I got out of it and was expecting to enjoy DLC as well. Not sure, now, if I will be buying any.
 
Their steam page is 150+ pages of ppl raging about the shitty patch....hope it gets their attention....
 
Well it's overkill so they will probably just bitch about people bitching and how it's unfair or something. Oh and they will say they made the patch based on community feedback.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Well it's overkill so they will probably just bitch about people bitching and how it's unfair or something. Oh and they will say they made the patch based on community feedback.
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Yeah, I am not that impressed with their community support so far. I didn't really follow the first Payday much so I can't say if this is a typical thing.

I want to try stealthing Diamond Heist sometime, though. I almost did it solo but there were just too many civvies to keep down by myself.
 
MavericK96 said:
Yeah, I am not that impressed with their community support so far. I didn't really follow the first Payday much so I can't say if this is a typical thing.

I want to try stealthing Diamond Heist sometime, though. I almost did it solo but there were just too many civvies to keep down by myself.
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Last night we stealthed it about 4 times with a crew of 3...it's not too bad.
 
Yeah I just did it with some guys...it's actually really easy, even on Overkill.
 
The people complaining about the new patch make me LOL.

Ya'll never played the first game, did you?
 
Yes, extensively. It wasn't as fucked up as PD2 is now. You could actually kill shields and 10 tanks didn't spawn on you and turn you into their insta bitch.
 
Brules said:
Ukraine job is the jewelry store nub. It is all I will be doing (for card flips) until I get super bored or unless they fix all the shit they fucked up.

Luckily BF3 and Ghosts are coming soon!
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BF3 is coming out soon!? Holy crap!
 
I played quite a bit of the first one, too, and the new overkill does seem to bring the second one closer to the first. But then the first one's leveling and equipment upgrades were more straight forward, too. Also I hate how I can't plant the mines at someone's feet now.
 
Payouts and armor are bugged right now. I guess they are working on a fix, so hopefully that will help with the insanely unfair difficulty of Overkill now. I don't mind that Overkill is a bit harder, but the bulldozers are just ridiculous now. I can see spawning more than before, but don't make them soak up double the damage...
 
Brules said:
Yes, extensively. It wasn't as fucked up as PD2 is now. You could actually kill shields
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Actually, I think the shields in PD2 are easier.

and 10 tanks didn't spawn on you and turn you into their insta bitch.
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Sounds like you never played Undercover 145+ much. There's a reason the success rate for that level is less than half a percent. I've seen a dozen dozers flow into a room like it was a convention.
 
So, I guess they buffed the saw a bit since I can open a lot more now with the base saw. But it seems like they nerfed it for bulldozers, as you can't just run up and hit them in the face with it anymore...takes a LOT longer to kill them with the saw. That is bullshit...fuck this game, lol.
 
MavericK96 said:
So, I guess they buffed the saw a bit since I can open a lot more now with the base saw. But it seems like they nerfed it for bulldozers, as you can't just run up and hit them in the face with it anymore...takes a LOT longer to kill them with the saw. That is bullshit...fuck this game, lol.
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Well, it really only worked good on dozers anyway...I tried it on the FBI guys and they took longer to kill than the dozers so that didn't make any sense to begin with.
 
Played some more, and bulldozers seem okay depending on which weapon is used on them. It seems like they super buffed things like the Kobus and nerfed the shotguns pretty bad. Against bulldozers the shotguns feel almost worthless, but empty a Deagle or Kobus mag in their face and they go down quick.

Also, the normal cops that one-shot your armor are ridiculous. I think that is a bug, though.
 
These guys don't know what the fuck they are doing, and their 5 min of fame will be gone soon since BF4 and Ghosts are coming.
 
So patch #12 rolled out...seems slightly improved, payouts are back to what they should be, but almost 1 million to use a rare material? What the fuck? I guess people complained too much about having too much money, so they made trivial things like weapon mods cost a ridiculous amount? NOT a good solution, guys.

I didn't see if they fixed the damage on normal cops yet but they still seem to do a ridiculous amount of damage considering they are some dude with a pistol.

These days I pretty much just play to either farm cards on Jewelry Store or do stealth runs of Bank Heist or Diamond Store, or Big Oil sometimes for the hell of it.

They desperately need some new heists. Diamond Store is cool but it's basically Jewelry Store on steroids. They need to get some good multi-stage heists like in the first game (what I played of it, anyway). Not just where you essentially have to do one thing per day (90% of the time involving moving bags from one place to another, which sorry guys, isn't really that fun when you've done it for 100 hours).
 
So we managed to get all 9 paintings on day one of Framing Frame (stealth went wrong) and had Cafe Escape...we got fucking reamed. Escapes where you have to carry 5+ bags are bullshit in the first place, but with the damage issues with cops they are too goddamn hard now. Fucking Overkill needs to get their shit together.
 
MavericK96 said:
So we managed to get all 9 paintings on day one of Framing Frame (stealth went wrong) and had Cafe Escape...we got fucking reamed. Escapes where you have to carry 5+ bags are bullshit in the first place, but with the damage issues with cops they are too goddamn hard now. Fucking Overkill needs to get their shit together.
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What difficulty level?
 
Not sure...May have been Overkill, but in any case it is ridiculous to throw an escape at you with so many items to move and a limited time to do it, while dozens of tans, dozers and tasers are raping you.. I can't even imagine trying to solo it...impossible.
 
Haven't played in over 3 weeks and just reinstalled after a system wipe. They nerfed the fuck out of the shotguns, heist payouts and I could swear that I have less funds in my offshore account now.
Reading over a lot of these comments/experiences I really feel that Overkill has regressed with these patches since release.
 
The people that I played many hours with in the first Payday are quite happy with the recent changes, as am I.

Again...on some maps from the first game, the community success rate is less than half a percent. The game is supposed to be really fucking hard.
 
Eh i found payday 2 to be way too easy. i still think its a great game but most of the missions are super easy if you have even a half way decent crew.

also do you know if they fixed the dumpster glitch on the bank hiest map? i haven played for a while so i dont know.
 
I'm okay with the game now other than the overpowered/broken normal cop damage (byproduct of Patch 11, not fixed in 12) and the bullshit escapes on things like Bank Heist where you have 8+ bags. If you spend 10+ minutes on a heist and barely make it out with all the bags, the last thing you want to do is a fucking escape with all those bags. It's just something they added to nerf farming and it adds nothing to the game fun-wise. In fact, I think it makes the game much less fun.
 
If you don't like the escapes on the bank heist. just dumpster glitch it and you don't even have to deal with the cops throughout the heist.
 
Haven't touched this game in awhile, but new DLC just came out...essentially $5 for 3 or 4 new weapons and some masks. Seems like a rip-off to me.
 
MavericK96 said:
Haven't touched this game in awhile, but new DLC just came out...essentially $5 for 3 or 4 new weapons and some masks. Seems like a rip-off to me.
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Well, now I have officially written Overkill off. I will never buy anything from them again.
 
Is there anything else wrong with the game aside from expensive DLC? I almost bought it recently, but decided to wait as they are going to release a Seasons Pass for the DLC. I'll wait and see what the DLC includes and then buy the game + Seasons Pass (or skip it) when both are on deep discount.
 
Have a read through the last few pages of the thread...a lot more wrong with the game than overpriced DLC.

I mean, don't get me wrong, if you can pick it up for $10 or less I would say go for it, just to play through the heists once or twice. But I can't see putting the amount of time I put into it (120-ish hours) after some of the latest changes they've made.
 
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