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Love your socket 754?

Nice work Unclewebb - that's a sweet running chip.

Aldamon - thanks for the update. Those Conroes look to be extremely powerful units and oc very easily while still running cool on the stock hsf. Intel's got themselves a winner there no doubt.
 
Hey, everyone. Looks like I'll be getting my first and old S754 parts, a IHS-less 3000+ Clawie and MSI K8N Neo Platinum back. Heatsink is a lapped Tt K8 Silent Boost with a Tornado on it. It could only do 2.4Ghz when I had it. Still good enough :)
 
I just picked up another DFI Lanparty mobo and a 3400+ Clawhammer with 1GB of Mushkin ram for $160. I couldn't resist :eek:

My friend needs a new PC so these will likely go in his machine.
 
CRXican said:
I just picked up another DFI Lanparty mobo and a 3400+ Clawhammer with 1GB of Mushkin ram for $160. I couldn't resist :eek:

My friend needs a new PC so these will likely go in his machine.
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Good deal! I'd have pulled the trigger on that. 1GB of ram is at least $70 in itself, and the DFI lanparty boards are pricey.
 
I just received one of the 99.00 newegg special 3400+ with the biostar nf3 board. Big improvement over my old 2.53p4. How do I join the 754 club?
 
kytprice said:
I just received one of the 99.00 newegg special 3400+ with the biostar nf3 board. Big improvement over my old 2.53p4. How do I join the 754 club?
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Membership:
Think you've got what it takes? Well, we want you! The socket 754 club, or the s754 club as we so lovingly refer to it as, is looking for those who can't get enough of that performance/dollar ratio....and single channel memory. And as their "PR dude" it's my job to get recruits....now who wants in on this ownage? Just PM me to add you into the list, and just put that you're a member of the s754 club in your sig, and you're set.
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tsuehpsyde made that post. Just click on his name and PM him, put "socket 754 club" (or something similar) in your sig and you are all set. Welcome to the club!

BTW - with good ram you might expect to see results like this...
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Thats Crucial Ballistix DDR400 PC3200 (2x512) ram BTW.
 
GoldenTiger : I found a picture of how my s754 Sempron64 2600 used to run hard.

Just like BigMac discovered, the Crucial Ballistix appreciates lots of MHz and tight timings.

The extra cache in the 2800 helps a little when gaming but there's not much difference between the two for most apps.

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Yeah - I'm so glad that ZipZoomFly screwed up my Geil order because it resulted in my ordering the Crucial Ballistix from Newegg! Its even cheaper now than when I bought it which makes it an even better buy. You can't beat ram that performs that well for less than a hundred bucks!
 
FYI, Im selling my DFI NF3 board to get a 754 nf4x board.

If anyone wants it let me know, I will have a FS/FT thread in a little while.

6800 gt for sale too.
 
Big Mac, that is just INSANE!! I love it :) I am still on the fence with upgrading... *sigh* I need to save for a while.
 
ROFL - tell me about it! I'm incredibly amazed this stuff runs at such insane speeds. Now, I will admit that I haven't tried running Prime95 at these speeds but it is game stable (Half-Life Deathmatch) for multi-hours of play and more than stable for any other tasks I use the system for. I'll have to try HL2 and HL2DM at these speeds but if previous experience is any indication I'll need to slow it down and run the 2T command rate to get HL2 to run stable.
Fortunately I have been able lately to run it at 250x11 and 230x12 at 1.64v with no problems, whereas when I first got the chip it wouldn't run that fast without crashing. I can get 2.8 out of it but HL crashes after about 30-45 min. of play, but I'm not pushing the voltage past 1.66. Maybe 1.7 would help but I just don't feel that the extra speed is worth the needed additional voltage.
I've gotten some good benches out of it at 230x12 and DDR466. Superpi ran a 32.87 sec 1M pass Sat morning which is among the best times I have recorded so far. Not too shabby for a "budget" system eh?
 
GreenMonkey said:
Good deal! I'd have pulled the trigger on that. 1GB of ram is at least $70 in itself, and the DFI lanparty boards are pricey.
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my thoughts exactly
 
True but there are other mobo's that are far less expensive - and if you get the Newegg 3400+ Venice special the Biostar mobo is free!. You just can't beat that deal.
 
BigMacAttack said:
True but there are other mobo's that are far less expensive - and if you get the Newegg 3400+ Venice special the Biostar mobo is free!. You just can't beat that deal.
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You get what you pay for. I'd rather have a proven DFI board from the original owner than a POS biostar. Enjoy your Venice though.
 
Well, I've never had a Biostar so I wouldn't know - and the free mobo isn't a Tforce 6100. Those are supposed to oc quite well. Its an nf3 250 board which isn't as good as the nf4's or Tforce 6100's but ok if you are on a budget I guess. They have 2 other boards available but I wouldn't select nor recommend them personally. But I paid $99 for my 3400+ when they came out. If a free mobo deal had been offered I'd have grabbed it and made a game server or HTPC with it. Free is free - heck sell it on ebay for $40 and get some cash back.
I was tempted to get a DFi but went Abit instead. So far its worked out quite well with the 3400+ Venice.
 
Quick Q on the ABIT NV8. It has a 4 pin molex on the top of the motherboard. Do I need to use this? My radiator blocks it, so it would require a good amount of effort to get it plugged in. My DFI had no such thing, and everything seemed fine on it.. :confused:
 
Here's what the Abit NV8 manual says:

"The auxiliary 12V power connector [ATX4P1] provides an additional power source for devices added on PCI Express slots. It is highly recommended to attach 12V power from the power supplier for the best system stability."

Depending on how many cards you have plugged into your PCI slots and how hungry your graphics card is, you might be able to get away without that extra molex connector going into the motherboard.

Maybe BigMac will pull this plug out of his board and see if he can still run his Venice at full speed. :)
 
unclewebb said:
Here's what the Abit NV8 manual says:

"The auxiliary 12V power connector [ATX4P1] provides an additional power source for devices added on PCI Express slots. It is highly recommended to attach 12V power from the power supplier for the best system stability."

Depending on how many cards you have plugged into your PCI slots and how hungry your graphics card is, you might be able to get away without that extra molex connector going into the motherboard.

Maybe BigMac will pull this plug out of his board and see if he can still run his Venice at full speed. :)
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The only card I will have plugged in is a X1900XTX. I am still trying to think of a way to plug it in, but it will require removing the molex plug and only using the wires. :eek:
 
Let me investigate that one. I believe there are alternative ways to get power to the video card. I'll have to break out the manual and pop the side cover - which is no probelm since it isn't secured with screws because I need to reset bios every now and then because of an overly aggressive oc :)

I'll try and give it a look tonight.
 
BigMacAttack said:
Let me investigate that one. I believe there are alternative ways to get power to the video card. I'll have to break out the manual and pop the side cover - which is no probelm since it isn't secured with screws because I need to reset bios every now and then because of an overly aggressive oc :)

I'll try and give it a look tonight.
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Thanks!
 
Wow, sorry for being out for so long guys, things have been crazy here lately. Through an odd series of events and a few "too good to pass up" deals, both of my 7600GT's ended up getting sold (one never made it out of its box, actually).

I now have a 7900GT in the mail and $80 extra in my pocket.

I'll be running a PCI Riva TNT for the next few days while I wait for the 7900 to arrive...I get 30FPS in Quake 3 W00T! :rolleyes:
 
L1ght said:
Thanks!
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The ATX12V1 connector you are speaking of at the top of the board is plugged in on my setup. If you need to leave it unplugged I recommend you try plugging in the aux 4 pin connector which attaches next to the 20 pin connector to see if that will do you any good. There is also an auxilliary 4 pin 12v connector (ATX4P1) at the bottom left of the mobo. The manual says; "The auxilliary 12v power connector (ATX4P1) provides an additional power source for devices added on PCI Express slots. It is highly recommended to attach 12v power from the power supply for best stability." I can try scanning the book and sending you the scan so you can see what I mean.
 
BigMac: Here's the diagram of the NV8 motherboard "borrowed" from the manual.
With the success your having with this board ABit probably won't mind some free advertising.

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Whats with the molex connector at the bottom of the board? My nForce 4 doesn't have one of those...is that a bad thing considering I have an SLI board that probobly needs more power?


BigMacAttack said:
I'll have to break out the manual and pop the side cover - which is no probelm since it isn't secured with screws because I need to reset bios every now and then because of an overly aggressive oc :)
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My last motherboard was also without an overclocking fail safe (Bios resets if it fails to boot 3 times in a row).

I learned a little trick to make overclocking less painfull. You can take the reset switch and attach it to the bios reset pins. All I had to do to reset the bios was hold down the reset switch while the PC booted :D
 
Unknown-One said:
Whats with the molex connector at the bottom of the board? My nForce 4 doesn't have one of those...is that a bad thing considering I have an SLI board that probobly needs more power?
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As I stated above, "The auxilliary 12v power connector (ATX4P1) provides an additional power source for devices added on PCI Express slots. It is highly recommended to attach 12v power from the power supply for best stability." I don't have a power source plugged into mine but if I have a spare connector I'll plug it in and see if it makes any kind of difference. I've just been running off the 4 pin psu connector that plugs into the video card connector and its been fine for the last 10 months.


My last motherboard was also without an overclocking fail safe (Bios resets if it fails to boot 3 times in a row).

I learned a little trick to make overclocking less painfull. You can take the reset switch and attach it to the bios reset pins. All I had to do to reset the bios was hold down the reset switch while the PC booted :D
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Nice mod. Mine's pretty easy to reset thankfully. They have a jumper on the pins that has a large plastic tab on it so it is easy to grab and place over the jumper pins. Abit was thinking on that one.
 
BigMacAttack said:
As I stated above, "The auxilliary 12v power connector (ATX4P1) provides an additional power source for devices added on PCI Express slots. It is highly recommended to attach 12v power from the power supply for best stability." I don't have a power source plugged into mine but if I have a spare connector I'll plug it in and see if it makes any kind of difference. I've just been running off the 4 pin psu connector that plugs into the video card connector and its been fine for the last 10 months.
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So I dont need to plug in the 4 pin at the bottom(my mistake, my lian li had the mobo flipped...) YAY! :D You just made my day. :cool:
 
:p oops! Yeah, I never read that blurb about the 4 pin connector at the bottom of the board (ATX4P1) needing to be plugged in so I never plugged a connector into it and my X800Pro VIVO PCI-e card has been running just fine.
 
I decided to re-install Windows to a RAID 0 configuration.

Hard drives are cheap these days and it's a good way to boost performance. There's an increased risk of data loss if anything goes wrong but maybe that will encourage me to back up my files more often. I doubt it. :rolleyes:

I'm using two 160 GB Samsung SATA2 hard drives which Newegg has on sale for only $55. Over 110 MB/s for $110 is a steal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822152020

Samsung may not make the fastest drives but I don't know of any quieter. I used the nVidia controller that's built into the nForce3 chipset. It doesn't support SATA2 so I used the included jumper to set the drives to regular SATA mode.

I've heard of some users having trouble overclocking when using an onboard Silicon Image SATA controller but I'm happy to report my s754 Athlon64 3000 continues to overclock exactly the same as before.

If you want to compare results you can download the free version of HD Tach from here:
http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach

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For loading huge levels in games or working with Photoshop I think you will notice a nice boost in performance and responsiveness. No complaints. :)
 
I bought a SATA drive 2 yrs ago for my (then) new 3400+ Clawhammer system. I believe it was a Hitachi but I'm not sure now. Anyway, the thing took a dump 2 weeks after I had the machine all set up :eek: :mad: . Needless to say that left a bad impression so I switched to 2 ATA133 Maxtor hdd's. When I built the new home system I took one of the hdd's from my work system home and stuck it in there and everything has worked nicely.
Call me crazy but I just don't trust SATA. Personal preference I guess. ATA seems more stable somehow. I wish my systems supported ATA150 but 133 is good enough.
 
Well guys.. today marks the day that my Clawhammer 3400+ 1MB 754pin will take the passenger seat. I will be booting up my watercooled 5000+ AM2 for the first time (hopefully) after work. Its all built and the water cooling loop is all ran and leak tested. ^_^

Sneak peek? See sig for details.

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noobtech said:
Oh that's so sad for your clawhammer, but congrats on AM2 :)
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Oh, I'll still be using my Clawhammer, its just going to be on the other side of my desk being used as a file download server, and something to play my "older" games on, such as everything from just before Doom 3 to backward in time. :D
 
w1retap said:
Well guys.. today marks the day that my Clawhammer 3400+ 1MB 754pin will take the passenger seat. I will be booting up my watercooled 5000+ AM2 for the first time (hopefully) after work. Its all built and the water cooling loop is all ran and leak tested. ^_^

Sneak peek? See sig for details.
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Grr, for a second I thought you were showing off a s754 Athlon 64 X2 :(

Nice AM2 build though, congrats on that :D
 
Unknown-One said:
Grr, for a second I thought you were showing off a s754 Athlon 64 X2 :(

Nice AM2 build though, congrats on that :D
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haha thanks.. I know, I wish there was a X2 for 754 or else I wouldn't have upgraded.. they cut this line of CPU's so short, even with more potential than everyone thinks. :(
 
Thankfully, they gave us the 90nm Venice cpu's as a last hurrah. :cool: Who woulda thought that after they said that 754 wouldn't be supported anymore? Regrettably, I believe its the end of the line, but what a great ride its been! I intend to ride that pony till the bitter end - or at least until AM3 :D
 
BigMacAttack said:
Thankfully, they gave us the 90nm Venice cpu's as a last hurrah. :cool: Who woulda thought that after they said that 754 wouldn't be supported anymore? Regrettably, I believe its the end of the line, but what a great ride its been! I intend to ride that pony till the bitter end - or at least until AM3 :D
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Well, you have to remember the week codes from those Venices. Some of them were as old as the CABNE 0530APMW Opterons that spawned the Opteron craze. They had them for awhile, they were just holding out on us. :p
 
My 7900GT has ARRIVED!!! I've allready got it installed and I'll have benchmarks and pics up in a while :D

Edit: any place to buy the Zalman Ram sinks that come with the vf700? I used the ones that came with mine on my old card and…I can’t exactly remove them (I used Arctic Epoxy, not the frag tape they came with).

The RAM on the 7900GT needs cooling, so I don't want to install the vf700 until I can get some new ram sinks.
 
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