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Love your socket 754?

CPU-z version 1.36 is out. It now shows the HT Link speed but still seems to have a problem correctly reporting the CPU voltage.

Download it from:
http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-136.zip

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booo new version. :( I tried submitting these "results" but was told my validation was corrupted. lol

File cpuz.cvf upload : OK
Checksum Computed : OK
Checksum Validated : YES
File corrupted

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Worked perfectly fine on 1.35. :confused:
 
might be going 939, I have an Asus A8N SLI Deluxe on the way from the $47 Microcenter deal. I had considered selling it but I just happen to have a brand new DD A8N chipset block that came with the Swiftech Apex WCing kit I bought on Ebay

:eek:
 
CRXican said:
might be going 939, I have an Asus A8N SLI Deluxe on the way from the $47 Microcenter deal. I had considered selling it but I just happen to have a brand new DD A8N chipset block that came with the Swiftech Apex WCing kit I bought on Ebay

:eek:
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Well, with the way prices are now, anything from AMD is a "value purchase". :D

 
Id go for the epox 754 sli board.its bios is very tweekable.its probubly the best al around board so far as you can go sli or not and o/clocks like a banshee.the othe board that comes to mind is the dfi lanparty nf3 board.its agp but for a fast board for 754 its been for a long time the board to have if you want the last mhz. squeezed out of your cpu.if your main mission is not the latest games required to run 100 fps then the dfi board mite be something to consider for a fast all around computer.if not the epox 8npa sli I believe it is.newegg has them for like 85 bucks or something like that.ive always wanted the dfi board with a venice cpu and see how far i could get it to go.i love my 939 system but i still miss my 754 setup too.
 
I'm running the Abit NV8 and it is smaller than my previous Asus K8N4-E Deluxe but it works out just fine in my Raidmax Storm case, which is a pretty big case. The Abit mounts with 6 screws instead of the Asus' 9 screws but so far I'v had no issues with it and it oc's like a son-of-a-gun! I especially like the DDR433, DDR466 and DDR500 ram dividers and the nice vcore and vdimm options. It is NF4 with PCI-e graphics. The EpoX SLI board is intriguing, though. Who'd have thought the the lowly skt 754 would get the SLI treatment? Life is definitely good. :)
 
W4ngsta said:
Guys Im getting tired of my current motherboard because of the crappy BIOS and am thinking of getting another board with a wide range of tweaking options. I came across this board, the Biostar TForce http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138268 because of the sheer amount of good reviews that this board recieved. But I cringe at the thought of using a mATX board in my mid tower, it just doesnt look right at all. Are there other boards that might have as much tweaking options as the Tforce, or could this board be the best for overclocking out of all 754 PCIe boards?
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I think the DFI boards are generally well-regarded for overclocking. I always liked Epox myself, as I found their products well-labeled (saves you hitting the manual all the time to find stuff) and stable. But I haven't had an Epox board in a while.

I'd opt for the Nforce4-4x boards over the Geforce 6100 based boards. DFI nF4X, Epox EP-8NPA, etc. I think any of the NF4-4x boards from a decent brand (DFI, Epox, Abit, Asus, etc) should work out well.

My Gigabyte NF4-4x board is a bit finicky while finding overclocks but works very well once you've got it. Newegg doesn't appear to have 'em in stock any more. I had my Venice 3400+ (2.4ghz) stabilized at 2.699mhz. I did have to revert to stock speed for a while since I've been getting an occasional rare hard lockup - but I'm pretty sure it was from pushing my cheap 1GB cas3 PC3200 stick to cas 2.5/405mhz. I haven't had any problems since bumping the RAM back to cas 3.

At this point I'd get the Epox SLI board. I don't think SLI has a lot of point unless you are running the bleeding edge of gaming, but since it is priced about the same as the other boards, why not?
 
I like the TForce boards a- at least what I've read about them. They seem to oc very well, but since my Asus was NF4 I opted to stay with that chipset since I wouldn't really have to replace the drivers. I almost got the DFI NF4 board because I have heard good things about them as well. I chickened out at the last minute because I thought it might be a bit too complex. I let my insecurities get the better of me. So far the Abit has been good though so I don't mind too much. NF4 is a great chipset for skt 754 from my experience.
 
BigMacAttack said:
I like the TForce boards a- at least what I've read about them. They seem to oc very well, but since my Asus was NF4 I opted to stay with that chipset since I wouldn't really have to replace the drivers. I almost got the DFI NF4 board because I have heard good things about them as well. I chickened out at the last minute because I thought it might be a bit too complex. I let my insecurities get the better of me. So far the Abit has been good though so I don't mind too much. NF4 is a great chipset for skt 754 from my experience.
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Well I passed my 2800+ newcastle chip down to a buddy, he bought one of the tforce boards for it, so I'll provide feedback on how it works out for him.
 
I just got a +3400 754 in last night, 2600 with no work. Tonight I am going to play with some ram timings to see if we can spin things up. I am looking for +2700.

In a very basic comparison (CSS benchmark) from my +2800 winchester @ 2400 to this venice @ 2600 it went from 106 fps average to 131 fps average.

BTW its on a biostar tforce, I am very happy with the mATX. When this machine starts showing its legs I can move the board/chip/ram into a micro box and sell it.
 
My 3400+ Venice is running quite nicely at 2.75 thank you very much - I'm sure you can get up there too. Just takes a little tlc. Good luck!
 
Gah! A 10k run of 3DMark is going to have to wait until Monday.

UPS came with my 7900GT while I wasn't home and leaft a UPS InfoVoice sticky note on my door with "Signature required on deliery" checked off :(
 
BigMacAttack said:
My 3400+ Venice is running quite nicely at 2.75 thank you very much - I'm sure you can get up there too. Just takes a little tlc. Good luck!
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Soooo has anyone here enabled the "ram@3.3v" pin?
 
My mobo maxes at 3.2v but this Crucial Ballistix runs just fine at 3.0v - 275mhz on the DDR433 divider is great - especially for the price of this stuff (under a hundred at Newegg for 2x512).
 
M1ster_R0gers said:
Soooo has anyone here enabled the "ram@3.3v" pin?
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I can pull 250MHz (DDR500) on my RAM at 3.1v, and my motherboard can go up to 3.2v.

Whats this "3.3v pin", and what kind of cooling would your RAM need at that voltage? :eek:
 
Its on page 6 of the manual. This new 2gb patriot ram I have does not perfom nearly as well as my 1gb kit. Two slots on this board is a limitation.
 
M1ster_R0gers said:
Its on page 6 of the manual. This new 2gb patriot ram I have does not perfom nearly as well as my 1gb kit. Two slots on this board is a limitation.
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I just had a look at page 6 of my motherboard manual, it was about CPU instalation :rolleyes:

You were talking about the EPoX 8NPA SLI, right?
 
Well I finally got my 754 box finished.

Old Junk Box Specs:
P4 S758 1.8 GHz
1 GB PC3200
ATI 9600 Pro AIW
40 GB 5400 RPM Drive
40X CDROM


New Junk Box Specs:
3400+
Free Biostar Board
1 GB PC3200
6800GT 256 MB with NV Silencer
(2) hitachi 80 GB SATA - probably gonna raid em
8X DVDR

Should be good for a few years.

Oh yeah, I should mention I have it all stuffed in a Dell XPS T850R Case. For those of you youngsters that would be a P3 850 Dell Tower Case. It is cool.
 
I have an AMD64 3000+ venice core retail version that I've had for about 6 months, but I have a chance to get an AMD64 3400+ OEM (model #ADA3400AIK4BO). You guys think I should get that or stick with my 3000+? It won't cost me anything, but I'll lose my warranty from AMd since it'll be OEM. What would you guys do?
 
Yes! just got my replacement 7900GT installed! Stay tuned for benchmarks :D

Edit: The RAM overclocks just as far as the first card (100MHz over stock), but the core is a lost cause (20MHz over stock).

I'm willing to bet there's another 50MHz in that core, but I think its starved for amps...the new PSU I have on the way might help (400w just isn't cutting it, the 7900GT used up my lat molex :p).
 
Smashed Ixnay said:
I have an AMD64 3000+ venice core retail version that I've had for about 6 months, but I have a chance to get an AMD64 3400+ OEM (model #ADA3400AIK4BO). You guys think I should get that or stick with my 3000+? It won't cost me anything, but I'll lose my warranty from AMd since it'll be OEM. What would you guys do?
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CPUs practically never die out of the blue. OEM chips come with some small kind of warranty, right? If the upgrade doesn't cost you anything, go with the 3400+.

Besides, what good does a warranty really do? The 3400+ chips are down to $99, I'm sure within the year they will be like $50. Most of the 3000+ chips are already at that price range anyway. It's not like a warranty on a $400 chip (different story IMO).
 
elfletcho said:
Well I finally got my 754 box finished.

Old Junk Box Specs:
P4 S758 1.8 GHz
1 GB PC3200
ATI 9600 Pro AIW
40 GB 5400 RPM Drive
40X CDROM


New Junk Box Specs:
3400+
Free Biostar Board
1 GB PC3200
6800GT 256 MB with NV Silencer
(2) hitachi 80 GB SATA - probably gonna raid em
8X DVDR

Should be good for a few years.

Oh yeah, I should mention I have it all stuffed in a Dell XPS T850R Case. For those of you youngsters that would be a P3 850 Dell Tower Case. It is cool.
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Please post pics... I gotta see this! :) You should also post it in the Dell forums so all the owners that have that system still will druel over your new found power.
 
Smashed Ixnay said:
I have an AMD64 3000+ venice core retail version that I've had for about 6 months, but I have a chance to get an AMD64 3400+ OEM (model #ADA3400AIK4BO). You guys think I should get that or stick with my 3000+? It won't cost me anything, but I'll lose my warranty from AMd since it'll be OEM. What would you guys do?
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Depending on if you oc or not, its not that big of an upgrade deal. I've had all the skt 754 Venice cpu's (3000+, 3200+ and 3400+) and they all oc very nearly the same. The 3000+ went to 2.65 and the 3200+ and 3400+ both hit just over 2.7. If it won't cost you anything (free?) go ahead, but if you are expecting a lot more from the 3400+ it won't be there, unless of course you run at stock speeds.
As for the warranty, the OEM chip should have a 30 day warranty, but if you oc the retail 3000+ you have voided your warranty on it anyway so what's the difference? I've had 2 OEM cpu's (3700+ Clawhammer and 3400+ Venice) and have had no issues with either one. The 3700+ Claw is almost 2 yrs old now and still running strong in my work system while the 3400+ Venice powers my home rig. So far, no problems.
 
elfletcho said:
Well I finally got my 754 box finished.

Old Junk Box Specs:
P4 S758 1.8 GHz
1 GB PC3200
ATI 9600 Pro AIW
40 GB 5400 RPM Drive
40X CDROM


New Junk Box Specs:
3400+
Free Biostar Board
1 GB PC3200
6800GT 256 MB with NV Silencer
(2) hitachi 80 GB SATA - probably gonna raid em
8X DVDR

Should be good for a few years.

Oh yeah, I should mention I have it all stuffed in a Dell XPS T850R Case. For those of you youngsters that would be a P3 850 Dell Tower Case. It is cool.
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Sweet - an AMD Dell system. You're ahead of the curve! Of yeah - and if you post over on the Dell (Intel) forum better be wearing your flame proof underwear!
 
Well I been running at stock speeds and expect the 3000+ and 3400+ to OC to about the same speeds. Seeing as I run on pretty much stock speeds, I think the 3400+ might due me a little better.

I'm gonna build my sister a rig and I told her about the 3400+ deal with the free mobo. I told her it was simliar to mine, but hers will run at better speeds and she has told me that I could keep the one she gets and let me have hers since all she does is check email every other week for about 10 minutes.

I think I might take the 3400+ and give her my 3000+. I don't have money to bulid a new computer right now, so I think this would be a good opportunity for me to upgrade; since it won't cost me anything. It won't be much of an upgrade, but it's something.

If someone could help me overclock this processor I have now, I'd be willing to give it a shot. I'd love to have it 2.5-2.6ghz prime stable (had it 2.5ghz once but don't remember settings I had it on). Since then it's been at stock speeds. If I can get it at that, I'll just keep this processor cause the 3400+ would probably be about the same.

My setup is:

AMD64 3000+ venice core
DFI Lan Party UT NF3 250gb
OCZ Powerstream 520w PSU
Aopen 6600gt
1gb Corsair XMS pc3200 2-2-2-5
WD80gb HDD
Maxtor 250gb HDD
 
CRXican said:
is there any market for my 3700+ Clawhammer? I think I'm moving to 939 :eek:
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just as much as there is for my 3200+ clawhammer which is still used as my daily rig. no reason to move to anything faster when i have my am2 bench machine as well :p
 
I just can't get my 3000+ to run stable on a DFI lanparty board. It has errors after 3 minutes whether it's on blend test or just cpu. bahhh..

I had it at 260X10, 3xHtt, 1.65 volts, and the ram is only at 185 on the 140 divider. the best I found was about 2.4... oh wells.
 
iNViSiGOD said:
Holy crap this thread is still going?
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:cool: yeah man - ain't it great? And the best thing about it is that we don't have a lot of fan***s coming in and telling us how great "xyz"'s" new processor is. We're so far behind it just isn't worth it! :D
And BTW - I'm still using my 3700+ Claw at work in my Cadd system. She runs just fine at 2.58 in an Asus K8V mobo with a VisionTek X800Pro AGP video card and 1gb (2x512) of Ultra DDR400 ram. Heh :p
 
noobtech said:
Please post pics... I gotta see this! :) You should also post it in the Dell forums so all the owners that have that system still will druel over your new found power.
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Ask and ye shall receive. Sorry for the shitty quality.








Had to ghetto up the IO panel area, I will be making a custom shield for it sooner or later.

Wire routing is for wusses! Air flow is overrated.
 
noobtech said:
I just can't get my 3000+ to run stable on a DFI lanparty board.
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You might want to try playing around with your memory voltage. My OCZ Platinum surprised me. When I gave it extra voltage all it gave me was memory errors. It works best at default voltage whereas my previous Crucial Ballistix liked to be cranked up.

You might also want to try using a different memory divider to get your memory speed back up over 200 MHz. Some memory modules really don't like running slower than default and will give you errors as well.

I run MemTest86+ overnight if possible to make sure that my memory isn't holding me back.

http://www.memtest.org/

You'll never be Prime stable if your memory isn't error free in MemTest86+.
 
iNViSiGOD said:
Holy crap this thread is still going?
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754 is the bang/buck champ now. :p

There aren't any upgrades out there worth spending the money.

Dual core - pointless for gaming at this point, unless you want to multitask & game (not an issue here, I can use my wife's PC for stuff)
AM2/DDR2 - very little performance advantage for gaming - at least, not enough to warrant buying a new CPU/RAM/motherboard

A few years ago I went from my 1800+ XP -> 2800+ now that was worth it! New games needed the new architecture's performance. My 3400+ & x850xt runs Guild Wars at 1920x1200 max settings/vsync at > 40fps, Quake 4 runs good at 1600x1200 with some AA, FEAR combat runs well with reasonable settings, etc.
 
unclewebb said:
You might want to try playing around with your memory voltage. My OCZ Platinum surprised me. When I gave it extra voltage all it gave me was memory errors. It works best at default voltage whereas my previous Crucial Ballistix liked to be cranked up.

You might also want to try using a different memory divider to get your memory speed back up over 200 MHz. Some memory modules really don't like running slower than default and will give you errors as well.

I run MemTest86+ overnight if possible to make sure that my memory isn't holding me back.

http://www.memtest.org/

You'll never be Prime stable if your memory isn't error free in MemTest86+.
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thanks webb! :)
 
noobtech: I noticed in your sig that your power supply is an Antec TruePower 550.

I've been in power supply hell lately. I use an Antec TruePower 480 in my main computer and it's been a reliable soldier. Stable voltages with no load or full load. It's an older version 1.3 with the 20 pin connector.

My girlfriend needs a new power supply for her computer so I picked up an Antec NeoPower 480. I put it in my computer to test it and I was running Prime for about 20 minutes when all of a sudden it got too hot and just quit and wouldn't turn on anymore until it cooled down. While running Prime the 5 volt line was fluctuating all over the place and now it's down to 4.3 volts. It won't even boot her old Athlon XP computer. Great eBay experience.

Next, I bought a new Antec TruePower 430 watt version 2.0 model locally. I get the nice shiny box home and look inside and someone has shoved a TruePower 550 watt model in there instead. :) I thought, finally some justice for my previous suffering. I get it all wired up in my rig, push the power button, all the fans spin nicely but no POST. No beep, it just sits there. Now I've got to bring it back today ( 90 minute drive ) and try and convince the store that this 550 watt POS is actually what they sold me and not my old one.

I was on the web and it seems that Antec has had a pile of troubles with their recent high efficiency offerings. If you have access to a digital voltage meter it's a good idea to check voltages on all the rails while running Prime. Gaming is an even bigger draw on your PS so check it while doing that as well.

Update: The store took their 550 watt POS back, no questions asked, and exchanged it for a TruePower 430 watt model that works great. Antec have redeemed themselves. The voltages are all within 1% to 3% on the high side under full load so I'm happy. I didn't have the heart to tell the store that their 550 watt TruePower is f*#ked. They'll find out soon enough. ;)
 
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