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Is there any news regarding the Club3D adapter and G-Sync/FreeSync?
I've got one at home, but no point in unpacking it as long as there isn't any working G-Sync..
I'm an AndroidTV guy myself, but the Sony not supporting VRR/FreeSync/G-Sync (any of it) was a clear dealbreaker for me. And since they use the same panel and you can't use any of the motion processing magic on a PC anyways the LG CX is basically a no-brainer if you can get it..After months of reading and re-reading this thread I decided to take a shot. I'm a Sony guy, so pre-ordered their new 48" A9S OLED instead of the LG. No idea when it'll ship, but I'll definitely post pics/comments when it's delivered. I still think 48" is too big for desktop use. Maybe I'll be surprised. Sure as hell hope so.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1545419-REG/sony_xbr48a9s_48_xbr_4k_a9s.html
They still don't have HDMI 2.1 I. Their newest model ~.~? LG going to be the better gaming TV.After months of reading and re-reading this thread I decided to take a shot. I'm a Sony guy, so pre-ordered their new 48" A9S OLED instead of the LG. No idea when it'll ship, but I'll definitely post pics/comments when it's delivered. I still think 48" is too big for desktop use. Maybe I'll be surprised. Sure as hell hope so.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1545419-REG/sony_xbr48a9s_48_xbr_4k_a9s.html
Dude 55 on a desk? Is the image even sharp at that distance? I always figured you'd need 8K resolution to make something like that work as intended.I'm an AndroidTV guy myself, but the Sony not supporting VRR/FreeSync/G-Sync (any of it) was a clear dealbreaker for me. And since they use the same panel and you can't use any of the motion processing magic on a PC anyways the LG CX is basically a no-brainer if you can get it..
Regarding size:
I got slapped in my face when I went from triple 20" to single 43" for about 2 months on my desktop. (I did use triple 1080p 40" on my simrig and for productive work/coding in the past though, so the size wasn't completely new to me). But I got comfortable with my big screen after a while - so much that I wanted something a hair bigger for (relaxed) gaming.
Now, 1 year later I'm at 55" on the same desk (as I couldn't get my hands on a 48" for a reasonable price) - and it's doable. I think 40"-48" is the absolute best size for casual, relaxed, lean-back gaming, even on a desk (or especially on a desk). Don't get instantantly scared by the size, you WILL get used to it.
Nah, I had to use font scaling of 125% on my 43" to be usable. With the 55" I can now use 100% and it's perfect.Dude 55 on a desk? Is the image even sharp at that distance? I always figured you'd need 8K resolution to make something like that work as intended.
I just got my 3090 FE. Firmware 3.11.25 on the CX works fine. There's no stuttering with G-SYNC + Vsync, with or without an fps limit of 118. There's no flickering in games or on the desktop either. If I toggle Vsync off & on in Dota 2 while the game is running, the fps drops to ~100 and panning is not smooth. If I launch the game with Vsync already switched on, it runs at a locked framerate.
When switching back to 120 Hz from 24 Hz after a movie, the screen started flickering. Unplugging the HDMI cable fixed it. The problem hasn't recurred.
Yeah I've concluded that Gsync is busted. This is some firmware or driver issue.
For me personally it ruins gameplay. Smoothness feels like a game with poor frame pacing.
The prior fix by enabling W10 VRR doesn't solve the issue.
I'm an AndroidTV guy myself, but the Sony not supporting VRR/FreeSync/G-Sync (any of it) was a clear dealbreaker for me. And since they use the same panel and you can't use any of the motion processing magic on a PC anyways the LG CX is basically a no-brainer if you can get it..
Regarding size:
I got slapped in my face when I went from triple 20" to single 43" for about 2 months on my desktop. (I did use triple 1080p 40" on my simrig and for productive work/coding in the past though, so the size wasn't completely new to me). But I got comfortable with my big screen after a while - so much that I wanted something a hair bigger for (relaxed) gaming.
Now, 1 year later I'm at 55" on the same desk (as I couldn't get my hands on a 48" for a reasonable price) - and it's doable. I think 40"-48" is the absolute best size for casual, relaxed, lean-back gaming, even on a desk (or especially on a desk). Don't get instantantly scared by the size, you WILL get used to it.
Wow, serious oversights on my part!They still don't have HDMI 2.1 I. Their newest model ~.~? LG going to be the better gaming TV.
Looks amazing ... then I saw ... HDMI 2.0b ..... honestly, you don't want that. You want HDMI 2.1 ...... I promise you, 4K@120hz OLED is .... AH-MAY-ZING .... amazing.After months of reading and re-reading this thread I decided to take a shot. I'm a Sony guy, so pre-ordered their new 48" A9S OLED instead of the LG. No idea when it'll ship, but I'll definitely post pics/comments when it's delivered. I still think 48" is too big for desktop use. Maybe I'll be surprised. Sure as hell hope so.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1545419-REG/sony_xbr48a9s_48_xbr_4k_a9s.html
There's enough reports of stuttering where it's likely an implementation issue with the beta firmware, which is probably why it got pulled. It sounds like the "major" problem of Gsync flat out not working is fixed, but there are some frame pacing issues left to resolve.Lol I do not know what's going on anymore. So many mixed reports.
At least LG is trying to fix it. Samsung and other would of just said tough shit. Buy next year's model and it might be fixed there.There's enough reports of stuttering where it's likely an implementation issue with the beta firmware, which is probably why it got pulled. It sounds like the "major" problem of Gsync flat out not working is fixed, but there are some frame pacing issues left to resolve.
I do give LG/NVIDIA some leeway on this, since this is the first implementation trying to get all this working. Some issues are expected. I do hope they get resolved soon-ish though.
Still holding for a GPU before I commit to the TV. Honestly might just wait for next years model at this point...
There's enough reports of stuttering where it's likely an implementation issue with the beta firmware, which is probably why it got pulled. It sounds like the "major" problem of Gsync flat out not working is fixed, but there are some frame pacing issues left to resolve.
I do give LG/NVIDIA some leeway on this, since this is the first implementation trying to get all this working. Some issues are expected. I do hope they get resolved soon-ish though.
Still holding for a GPU before I commit to the TV. Honestly might just wait for next years model at this point...
Hoping it is all just firmware issues and not hardware limitations. If the C9 had the same issues that would seem to indicate that is not related to a difference in cutting corners along with the hdmi bandwidth hardware.
As it stands now the remaining issues seem to be (unless I am forgetting something):
... 120hz 4k 444 10bit's VRR range has stuttering
....eARC 5.1/7.1 performance: reliability/stability are not solid at all (dropping to or only capable of stereo, connection not remaining solid requiring reconnects or restarts).
....slight raising of black depth in areas with near-blacks or some near-black flashing with VRR active.
....slight raising of blacks with Dolby Vision hdr
Where do you enable any of those 3 options in Win10?Is it possible that the issue is relative to the window 10 option ?
>> Game mode >> do you active it ?
>> Materiel acceleration >> do you active it ?
>> vrr in w10 option >> do you active it.
What do you do of these 3 option ?
I am very curious if a person can test on a linux hardware if the stutering are visible with gsync on ?
What settings are you using within the NVIDIA control panel? Make sure to use at least 10-bit output. Aside from that, you need to enable "HDMI Deep Color" for the HDMI input you are using, since that effectively controls whether HDR can be supported.I need some help with 4k / 120hz/ gsync WITH HDR on a LG CX using a RTX 3090. I can't get windows to turn on HDR. The switch is effectively disabled. Is there a setting on the LG that I need to enable/disable to get it to work? HDR works fine if the TV is at 4k / 60hz/ gsync. Actually, it comes on automatically when I switch from 120hz to 60hz. Considering the RTX 3090 is supposed to have HDMI 2.1, wouldn't this allow HDR with 4k/ 120hz? I am using a 48gps HDMI optical cable and my LG is on 3.11.10 (this is as far as my TV will allow as of today). Does a manual upgrade to 3.11.25 fix this?
Make sure the hdmi input icon on the cc is set to PC. That will allow pc resolutions. In nvcp resolutions scroll down and select 4k. You can now set it to 120hz and enable hdr.I need some help with 4k / 120hz/ gsync WITH HDR on a LG CX using a RTX 3090. I can't get windows to turn on HDR. The switch is effectively disabled. Is there a setting on the LG that I need to enable/disable to get it to work? HDR works fine if the TV is at 4k / 60hz/ gsync. Actually, it comes on automatically when I switch from 120hz to 60hz. Considering the RTX 3090 is supposed to have HDMI 2.1, wouldn't this allow HDR with 4k/ 120hz? I am using a 48gps HDMI optical cable and my LG is on 3.11.10 (this is as far as my TV will allow as of today). Does a manual upgrade to 3.11.25 fix this?
and if you enable amd freesync?I’ve done my first round of gaming and have some findings on gsync.
pendulum shows stuttering. But in game Hell Let Loose no stuttering whatsoever and no tearing. Everything at epic - framed between 50-100.
Horizon Zero Dawn: no stutter. Frames around 60-80 all max. HDR is amazing. But tearing with Gsync... don’t know why. Also played with BFI. Not sure i actually see the difference.
Borderlands 3. Great HDR. 70-90 fps. No tearing or stuttering.
I was a nay-sayer about 48" and went with it anyway. But damnit, 48" is growing on me bigtime.Just dropping a quick note that today I "upgraded" to the LG 48CX from a 55" LG C9.. Prior to the C9 I was using an LG C6 (55" Curved) OLED and as I suspected while I was fine with the 55" as a Desktop Monitor the smaller size of the 48" is much much nicer. I would even say having used the Dell 43" 4K LCD's at work for some years that even if LG made a 43" OLED I would stick with the 48" size... its pretty much a perfect size for gaming and desktop/office work. Very Happy.
Its on on the tv.and if you enable amd freesync?
What card are you using? I've got a rtx 3090 and an i9-9900k OC and I'm getting 45 -50 fps on horizon zero dawn with ultra settings. Are you in 4k?I’ve done my first round of gaming and have some findings on gsync.
pendulum shows stuttering. But in game Hell Let Loose no stuttering whatsoever and no tearing. Everything at epic - framed between 50-100.
Horizon Zero Dawn: no stutter. Frames around 60-80 all max. HDR is amazing. But tearing with Gsync... don’t know why. Also played with BFI. Not sure i actually see the difference.
Borderlands 3. Great HDR. 70-90 fps. No tearing or stuttering.
It's been this way. I can get 4k 120hz easy. But never hdr.Make sure the hdmi input icon on the cc is set to PC. That will allow pc resolutions. In nvcp resolutions scroll down and select 4k. You can now set it to 120hz and enable hdr.
The only setting that even allowed any 4k options is 8 bit ybbr4220. If I select any other option, it defaults to a very awefull resolution, and I must step up to 1080p first then fix the color options, then back to 4k.What settings are you using within the NVIDIA control panel? Make sure to use at least 10-bit output. Aside from that, you need to enable "HDMI Deep Color" for the HDMI input you are using, since that effectively controls whether HDR can be supported.
I can simply select 10bit rgb with no issue with 4k 120Hz on my 3080, and hdr works. maybe properly clean driver reinstall, if you haven't?The only setting that even allowed any 4k options is 8 bit ybbr4220. If I select any other option, it defaults to a very awefull resolution, and I must step up to 1080p first then fix the color options, then back to 4k.
Tried clean driver install too.I can simply select 10bit rgb with no issue with 4k 120Hz on my 3080, and hdr works. maybe properly clean driver reinstall, if you haven't?
That is a whole lot of effort to just hack you, a random person to sell to.Tried clean driver install too.
Perhaps it's the hdmi cable? I know those have been an issue. I ordered another 48gps hdmi, I'll be able to test it on Sunday.
This is a totally out there question.... But I bought the rtx 3090 from someone, "new", BUT, is it possible that he could have hacked the bios and gave me a "trojan horse".
Not a hack.. just a classic scam lol.Tried clean driver install too.
Perhaps it's the hdmi cable? I know those have been an issue. I ordered another 48gps hdmi, I'll be able to test it on Sunday.
This is a totally out there question.... But I bought the rtx 3090 from someone, "new", BUT, is it possible that he could have hacked the bios and gave me a "trojan horse".
Wouldn't be that hard to check; just check the length of the card. And this is done a LOT when there's a supply issue with cards; it happened a ton when bitcoin mining on GPUs was still a thing.That is a whole lot of effort to just hack you, a random person to sell to.
I've got a suspicion HDMI 2.0 is being used. You can get 4k120 using 420, and 4k60 10-bit HDR at 422 using HDMI 2.0.The only setting that even allowed any 4k options is 8 bit ybbr4220. If I select any other option, it defaults to a very awefull resolution, and I must step up to 1080p first then fix the color options, then back to 4k.
9900k stock. 4k everything maxed. 3080. I was getting your frames with a 2080ti...What card are you using? I've got a rtx 3090 and an i9-9900k OC and I'm getting 45 -50 fps on horizon zero dawn with ultra settings. Are you in 4k?