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Uh...OK.So what has happened with the gaming-market these 2 decades that Microsoft dominates it ? Has gaming been destroyed all these years? i don't know about you, but personally, my years as a gamer have been great , even with only 1 OS and only 1 API dominating the gaming-market for decades! .
The free-market auto-adjusts herself if a certain-need arises. If gamers weren't pleased by the games produced under DirectX, the sales would go down and a new API would eventually arise !!
If AMD can not stand the rules of the free-market, then it will be bought-out, just like AMD herself has bought-out ATI in the past.
Why haven't we protected ATI as well ? or 3dfx before them? Why only AMD needs constant protection while all the others don't ?
IF there is a certain law that is being violated with this GPProgram, then let the law-system apply the proper fines, .... BUT.... if it doesn't , well personally i won't support a company only because it can't withstand the free-market rules. That's not a valid argument, at least not an argument that concerns me as a customer.
So what has happened with the gaming-market these 2 decades that Microsoft dominates it ? Has gaming been destroyed all these years? i don't know about you, but personally, my years as a gamer have been great , even with only 1 OS and only 1 API dominating the gaming-market for decades! .
The free-market auto-adjusts herself if a certain-need arises. If gamers weren't pleased by the games produced under DirectX, the sales would go down and a new API would eventually arise !!
If AMD can not stand the rules of the free-market, then it will be bought-out, just like AMD herself has bought-out ATI in the past.
Why haven't we protected ATI as well ? or 3dfx before them? Why only AMD needs constant protection while all the others don't ?
IF there is a certain law that is being violated with this GPProgram, then let the law-system apply the proper fines, .... BUT.... if it doesn't , well personally i won't support a company only because it can't withstand the free-market rules. That's not a valid argument, at least not an argument that concerns me as a customer.
So what has happened with the gaming-market these 2 decades that Microsoft dominates it ? Has gaming been destroyed all these years? i don't know about you, but personally, my years as a gamer have been great , even with only 1 OS and only 1 API dominating the gaming-market for decades! .
The free-market auto-adjusts herself if a certain-need arises. If gamers weren't pleased by the games produced under DirectX, the sales would go down and a new API would eventually arise !!
If AMD can not stand the rules of the free-market, then it will be bought-out, just like AMD herself has bought-out ATI in the past.
Why haven't we protected ATI as well ? or 3dfx before them? Why only AMD needs constant protection while all the others don't ?
IF there is a certain law that is being violated with this GPProgram, then let the law-system apply the proper fines, .... BUT.... if it doesn't , well personally i won't support a company only because it can't withstand the free-market rules. That's not a valid argument, at least not an argument that concerns me as a customer.
Okay there horrible analogy guy. We'll all be waiting here for a someone with billions deep pockets to join in a fight where there's no guarantee of success against an entrenched competitor. That's assuming Nvidia isn't the one doing the buying out. Let's just toss your piss poor OS analogy into the trash and use a closer one involving CPU's. I didn't enjoy paying over $300 for a quad core for the better part of a decade but perhaps you did. Hooray free market. Let us all serve.
Vulkan has proven to be much better then directx so that market dominance has come at the cost of actual performance.
You are reaching razor1-like levels with you continuously posting and reposting your already expressed opinions. This is not the GPU forum and you will not monopolize the thread about our GPP story as your own soapbox for your thoughts and opinions. Consider this your warning.exactly, if VULCAN is helping for a better gaming-design, then the market will auto-adjust herself , short-term or long-term.
For good or bad the rules of the free-market apply. If you want to change them , then we must change them for everybody, not for AMD especially, that's what i'm saying.
Gary Lang in Mchenry, IL has GM (Buick, Cadillac, Chevy, GMC) Kia, Mitsu and Subaru. They're in bed with quite a few MFRs.
Perhaps because of the fucking the AMD received at the hands of Intel, which they fought in court... and won, but still have never been paid for by Intel, they're trying different avenues instead of getting fucked, continue to get fucked while the lawsuits happen, and then remain fucked when they can just dick around and not pay the judgement.
How much of that 70 percent was people buying a gpu and getting an Nvidia card when they meant to get an AMD card because of confusing packaging?They are selling under Nvidia's brand, it's called "geforce" and it's in big letters on the box.
Nvidia has 70% of the market and they have brand recognition, which comes back to the only real reason do this, is to try and fuck AMD over and create a monopoly by forcing AMD out by creating a situation that for all intents and purposes forces AIB's and OEM's to not advertise AMD in their gaming brands.
But business as usual has not meant turning over your company's gaming brand exclusively to NVIDIA or be excluded from many marketing benefits previously afforded with MDF being the highlight on that list.The more I read about this, the more I feel like its much ado about nothing.
If OEMs/Distributors had issues they have been probably ironed out by nvidia. I'm pretty sure every current partner will enter the program and keep doing business as usual.
Well if at least ASUS and MSI have no problem doing that, why should I care? Do you really think the consumer cares if a card is ROG, AORUS, BlackHawk or Humpty Dumpty XPS Turbo?
You know?, Asus could actually come up with a NEW gaming brand for solely nvidia and keep say ROG exclusively for AMD... Food for thought...
Don't think your understanding the issue. If Asus signs on with the alleged wording of these contracts NO they can not. They can not have a gaming brand featuring anything other the NV parts.
Do you really think a company like NV would draw up a contract that actually says NV is your only "Gaming" brand supplier now >.< and not word it so companies couldn't simply spin ROG Red.
A brand featuring AMD from a company with such a contract could not be marketed as a "gaming" product >.< That is the part that makes it unethical and likely illegal.
Well since we don't know the wording of the contract, we don't know who is wright or wrong.
We don't, but Kyle does. I'll take his word on it that the GPP is wrong.. not right...Well since we don't know the wording of the contract, we don't know who is wright or wrong.
I imagine the people that came up with this ride around town shooting fireworks at people.I wonder if the marketing people who dreamed this up are same ones at Nvidia who regularly venture into the shade with questionable sweepstakes/giveaways that are actually lotteries like the "Shot With GeForce GTX” NVIDIA Ansel Contest" where buying Ghost Recon Wildlands was required to be eligible for consideration.
It seems to me this is a pretty clear violation of the Sherman Act. What I don't understand is why there isn't more aggressive enforcement of these antitrust measures. If anyone can explain this to me, I'd love to hear it.
I would suggest yes, and yes.Did these AIB/OEM have access to MDF and the other perks prior to GPP? Additionally, does the lack of MDF or “high effort engineering engagement” really hurt companies like Asus, MSI or Gigabyte? If something crucial like board allocation was being withheld then it would certainly be an issue but in the article you wrote it said it wasn’t directly spelled out in GPP but more of a wink and nod which sounds more like a rumor than anything concrete (if they are then they deserve to be sued).
Anyway, I’m bored of this topic so I’ll excuse myself from it.
Except what Nvidia supplies is not a stand alone consumer product, it is a part. AIBs put in a ton of engineering, R&D, marketing money etc. to make the final product, the graphics card, different from their competitors. It would be like Michelin going to Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc asking for a separate brand every time one of their cars uses another brand of tire.Do you know what watering down a brand is. Its very common and happens quite often. Its poor marketing. Companies shouldn't put two competitors products and have them under the same umbrella for both. This is a no no and is bad advertising.
https://www.fisiononline.com/blog/brand-watered-down-brand-management/
I have worked in advertising only a short stint and many years ago, but this is one of the first things you never do when it comes to branding products specially if they aren't your products. The rules and guidelines are always DICTATED by the product owners. ]
Except what Nvidia supplies is not a stand alone consumer product, it is a part. AIBs put in a ton of engineering, R&D, marketing money etc. to make the final product, the graphics card, different from their competitors. It would be like Michelin going to Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc asking for a separate brand every time one of their cars uses another brand of tire.
So what has happened with the gaming-market these 2 decades that Microsoft dominates it ? Has gaming been destroyed all these years? i don't know about you, but personally, my years as a gamer have been great , even with only 1 OS and only 1 API dominating the gaming-market for decades! .
The free-market auto-adjusts herself if a certain-need arises. If gamers weren't pleased by the games produced under DirectX, the sales would go down and a new API would eventually arise !!
If AMD can not stand the rules of the free-market, then it will be bought-out, just like AMD herself has bought-out ATI in the past.
Why haven't we protected ATI as well ? or 3dfx before them? Why only AMD needs constant protection while all the others don't ?
IF there is a certain law that is being violated with this GPProgram, then let the law-system apply the proper fines, .... BUT.... if it doesn't , well personally i won't support a company only because it can't withstand the free-market rules. That's not a valid argument, at least not an argument that concerns me as a customer.
I highly doubt that.nvidia just needs to update the program with NO MINING and everyone will be happy.
Color me shocked... Thank you Kyle for sticking your neck out on this one.
From more than one source as well.That is what it felt like from the article linked in post #412, it just read weird.
I assume I will. I will put it up on the news page if I have time.Will you have a link to the stream?