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Elite: Dangerous

I really like this review of Elite: Worth A Buy (YouTube). I really respect this reviewer, and watching his review is both hilarious and awesome.

Hopefully, in a year, I can save up some money for a quality joystick and this game.
 
I've heard very good things about this, so I finally decided to buy the beta access (which includes the release version, for those who don't know.)
 
I think I might have to buy beta access and try to clean up my X-45. A Warthog and pedals are far off down the road for me.
 
I've been playing a bit on and off since beta 2 dropped. It's pretty fun... beta 3 is dropping on the 28th and I'm looking forward to seeing what they add to the game. A lot of stuff is missing (at least from the public builds) for a game so close to release. But it's still a lot of fun - this is what X: Rebirth should have been.
 
Three important news bits:

-after 11/22, you will no longer be able to buy into the Beta test.
-the Preview Build (aka "Gamma") releases on 11/22 to existing Alpha/Beta backers.
-A big premiere event is slated for Saturday 11/22 at the Imperial War Museum Duxford in Cambridgeshire. (Britain's largest aviation museum) Twitch carries the stream.
and
-the final game launches on 12/16
 
Question for those of you who have been playing it: is a joystick necessary, or is keyboard and mouse just fine? Is XBox 360 Controller support a thing or would it be totally wrong?
 
Saturn_V said:
Three important news bits:

-after 11/22, you will no longer be able to buy into the Beta test.
-the Preview Build (aka "Gamma") releases on 11/22 to existing Alpha/Beta backers.
-A big premiere event is slated for Saturday 11/22 at the Imperial War Museum Duxford in Cambridgeshire. (Britain's largest aviation museum) Twitch carries the stream.
and
-the final game launches on 12/16
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link about the gamma build on the 22?
 
evilsofa said:
Question for those of you who have been playing it: is a joystick necessary, or is keyboard and mouse just fine? Is XBox 360 Controller support a thing or would it be totally wrong?
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id use the 360/One controler over the mouse but a a HOTAS is the way to go you can get some used cheap on ebay look for the Saitek X45 or X52 they run about 50 to 100 bucks used

im using my old X36 from 1998 that i got for Falcon 4.0

controls are fully mappable to ANY controller combo of controllers you could want you could even use twin joysticks if you wanted
this IS a PC only game and the control options are great and the tons of video and sound options
the game looks amazing running at 2560x1600 down-scaled to 1920x1200

Hard needs to do a review when its out with the 980 and 970 at 4k in this game
 
Does anyone know if you can still get into gamma phase by pre-ordering? I was going to a few weeks ago but decided not to with no firm release date yet.
 
Samson4EiT said:
Does anyone know if you can still get into gamma phase by pre-ordering? I was going to a few weeks ago but decided not to with no firm release date yet.
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To me it sounds like as if you still can! It says that that existing Beta/Alpha testers get the "Gamma" Access on the 22nd of November. So, to me, if you are a Beta Tester on the day before that day, you will get access.
 
Saturn_V said:
the final game launches on 12/16
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Oh dear.
I'd better think up a good story of how I was kidnapped before Christmas, otherwise my family will come looking and I hate to think the state I will be in lol.
Do they make intravenous meals yet?
 
Samson4EiT said:
Does anyone know if you can still get into gamma phase by pre-ordering? I was going to a few weeks ago but decided not to with no firm release date yet.
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Why would you want to pay full pre-order at this point when it's clear that just after the holidays the price will drop?
 
Wait. So either we buy into the beta or have to wait until 12/16 to play? Is the price going up when released? I am ok with waiting and paying $50 pre-order instead of $75 for the beta access.
 
@Samson4EiT

It's still not clear if pre-orders get into gamma, I've been keeping an eye on the ED forums for an official word. My advice is don't trust what anyone says on the forums, wait for an official response :)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=56470&page=5


@spaceman

Price is suppose to increase to £4.99 vs the Mercenary pre-order on release. I think you get a few extra items for pre-order also.
 
So for someone that wants to jump into Elite Dangerous and have a really great controls setup that fully integrates with and excels as to use within ED, what is recommended more:
Option 1: Saitek X52 Pro Flight Controller (Stick and Throttle)
Option 2: Thrustmaster Warthog (Stick and Throttle) + separate Rudder Pedals

This is roughly a $160 option vs $500+ option. Financials aside, I'm thinking that the need to incorporate rudder pedals (the warthog's stick doesn't do Yaw) is somewhat of a drawback for option #2. I realize that the Warthog stick is a much beefier solution and is nice and heavy with better build quality... but all that aside, which will give better in-game play performance and accuracy? Is the Warthog really any better on this front?

With the resurgence of interest in space combat/sim type games (like Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous on the horizon) coupled with much more immersive 3D display tech (especially once the Oculus Rift comes out as a commercial product), I can see there will be a large demand/need for high-end HOTAS type gear for hardcore PC gamers.
 
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I have an X55 which I like quite a bit, I also have an old X52 of the non-pro variety that is now sitting on the shelf, but I think it would work just fine. I prefer the X55, as it has more control surfaces and some were moved to the throttle which is more convenient imho. I also have a pair of pedals, but haven't really been very good about integrating them into my control set up.

I think a HOTAS set up is the way to go, how much you want to send is up to you. Before you add pedals to the mix, I'd recommend some form of head tracking. You can get a TrackIR set up, make a DIY set up with a PS3eye cam and IR LEDs (this is what I use) using Opentrack/FaceTrackNOIR, or try the aduino based EDtracker.

I've been wanting to try building an EDtracker, looks pretty neat - and cheap, I think it's around 10-15 dollars to build one yourself.
 
I had a X55 prior to my Warthog (mine had a huge squeak issue I could not deal with) and I thought it was a great stick. One thing it does better then the Warthog is the switches. Most games use toggles over positive locking switches, which is where the X55 excels.

That being said the Warthog is a massive improvement quality wise and in my opinion control fidelity wise.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
So for someone that wants to jump into Elite Dangerous and have a really great controls setup that fully integrates with and excels as to use within ED, what is recommended more:
Option 1: Saitek X52 Pro Flight Controller (Stick and Throttle)
Option 2: Thrustmaster Warthog (Stick and Throttle) + separate Rudder Pedals

This is roughly a $160 option vs $500+ option. Financials aside, I'm thinking that the need to incorporate rudder pedals (the warthog's stick doesn't do Yaw) is somewhat of a drawback for option #2. I realize that the Warthog stick is a much beefier solution and is nice and heavy with better build quality... but all that aside, which will give better in-game play performance and accuracy? Is the Warthog really any better on this front?

With the resurgence of interest in space combat/sim type games (like Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous on the horizon) coupled with much more immersive 3D display tech (especially once the Oculus Rift comes out as a commercial product), I can see there will be a large demand/need for high-end HOTAS type gear for hardcore PC gamers.
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i find i dont use yaw much in this game
and you can mix some yaw with the roll in the settings
or just put yaw on one of the hats

you can get a used X45 for about 60 bucks and it has yaw on a rocker on the throttle
 
Smoeki said:
It's still not clear if pre-orders get into gamma, I've been keeping an eye on the ED forums for an official word.
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You'll be waiting a long time. Allowing pre-orders (that are not in the Beta) into Preview Build/Gamma was only speculatively discussed in the ED forums. Most thought it would be a good idea to shake the final bugs out with a larger test audience. But there was never official response from Frontier Dev on this, and it's been suggested dozens of times.

I'd take the last newsletter as final word on this. If you want into Preview Build / Gamma, you have to fork the $25 USD to get into current Beta.
 
Elios said:
i find i dont use yaw much in this game
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Man, I use Yaw all the time. (mapped to my rudder pedals) The new Interdiction tug-of-war mechanic makes Yaw critically important. I don't see how you can use lateral thrust effectively without Yaw.
 
Are they going to release this game out on a major distribution platform like Steam or some such?
 
Maybe to boost population in a year, when planetary landing is available. 30% is a big cut? They will more likely sell it on consoles and go via word of mouth.
 
Anyone know how much they will open up for gamma, is it going to be more of a prerelease?
 
MrAgmoore said:
Maybe to boost population in a year, when planetary landing is available. 30% is a big cut? They will more likely sell it on consoles and go via word of mouth.
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And 70% of nothing is an even bigger cut, for all the lost sales and lack of exposure that they miss out on by not putting it on the biggest distribution platform.

And consoles? Dats a gud vun
 
MrAgmoore said:
Maybe to boost population in a year, when planetary landing is available. 30% is a big cut? They will more likely sell it on consoles and go via word of mouth.
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DPI said:
And 70% of nothing is an even bigger cut, for all the lost sales and lack of exposure that they miss out on by not putting it on the biggest distribution platform.

And consoles? Dats a gud vun
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I could see this game potentially having some kind of following on the PS4 and XB1 but this is definitely a "PC game" all the way and I really want to see it succeed so I hope they find a way to get this out at least on Steam.
 
DPI said:
And 70% of nothing is an even bigger cut, for all the lost sales and lack of exposure that they miss out on by not putting it on the biggest distribution platform.
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My gut feeling (after three+ months with the Beta) is that Elite Dangerous will never be on Steam. Frontier Dev already has a digital storefront for selling the game and in-game items. And the game in its current state would have to change A LOT to add features like syncing Steam friends and in-game friends. Syncing the CMDR userids to Steam userids. Or matchmaking/co-op through the Steam browser.

And for anyone really wanting and waiting to play this game, its absence on Steam isn't going to stop them. World of Tanks, Mechwarrior Online, Rise of Flight, and iRacing all thrive without having their games available on Steam.
 
MrAgmoore said:
Maybe to boost population in a year, when planetary landing is available. 30% is a big cut? They will more likely sell it on consoles and go via word of mouth.
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wait wait wait.. No Steam?

I can understand wanting to save a little money by not having to let steam take their percentage cut but its not a very good move to steer clear of it all together..

you talk about going on console, their cut is even a bigger % and their rules are far far more stringent.. from everything I read, steam is the easiest and most developer/publisher friendly of platform distribution services.

big mistake IMO
 
I signed up for the beta but the download was intermittent and has now been dead for an hour.
Is this normal?
Typical, I have time to play and it wont even download!

The progress bar is about 1/4 and stuck there.
Internet traffic is zero.
Tried stopping starting and logging in again, it just wont engage cap'n.
 
Delete the old launcher and try downloading a new one from the storefront. (store.zaonce.net) It'll be under "My Downloadable Products" in the My Account section.
 
You also be able to click the update announcement in the client to get the new download.
 
Interestingly, as soon as I logged into the store, it started downloading at full speed.
Odd.
Cheers for helping :)
 
latest ED Newsletter:
ED Newsletter #49 said:
Being a Beta backer is the only way you will be able to play Elite: Dangerous until 16th December. In addition to that and the other existing Beta benefits such as Mercenary Edition and automatic permit to visit Sol, today we are also announcing:

25% off in-game ship insurance for life to all our Beta backers
free access to one of the 5 new ships when it’s released!

as a ‘thank you’ for all their help.
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And the last Beta,v3.9 will be released on 11/20.
 
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