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Destiny - Discussion Thread

refraxion said:
Wrong. Damage is normalized. Passive abilities are still a HUGE advantage.

Iron banner is where DMG and armor come into play.
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Iron Banner is going to be a mess. Most of the gamers who play Destiny don't have experience with an MMO type "Arena" where gear advantages are massive.
 
anyone for the weekly heroic? I'm a level 24 titan and I have a level 25 hunter friend, we need 1 more. edit: (ps4)
 
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DF-1 said:
anyone for the weekly heroic? I'm a level 24 titan and I have a level 25 hunter friend, we need 1 more.
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If youre on PS4, send me a message (bpizzle100). I have a 24 warlock. I wont be home until about 4:30 EST though.
 
FLyGuYyy said:
http://www.destinylfg.com/ is also an interesting sight if your friends list is slim and looking to do weekly, daily or even raids.
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yeah i tired destinylfg.net , i got like 5 notifications, but its always blank when i try to enter them, like i never got anything. I tried sending out a few too, nothing.

seems like PSN is doing terribly right now. that, plus taking five minutes from when i get a message notification to be able to read it.
 
Godmachine said:
Iron Banner is going to be a mess. Most of the gamers who play Destiny don't have experience with an MMO type "Arena" where gear advantages are massive.
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Anyone who plays Iron Banner for any other reason than for the lols is going to have a bad time.

I can't wait. :D
 
DF-1 said:
anyone for the weekly heroic? I'm a level 24 titan and I have a level 25 hunter friend, we need 1 more. edit: (ps4)
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I solo'd this thing last night, it's pretty easy

edit: this fucking cave spot in Skywatch that people farm is so silly. I took my new hunter there and went AFK to take a dump and eat a sandwich. Came back a couple levels higher. Magical.
 
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So... I played this game a lot this weekend, and half of it was farming mats (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), crossing long zones to specific spots (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), reading up on specific methods that have to be done to get certain special items (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), and grinding reputations (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO). After all this I'm finally lvl 27 and ready to raid (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), but I'll probably have to get into a clan/guild first (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), and they'll probably want me to finish up the last few upgrades I have on my items before they'll let me into their group (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO).
 
lilbabycat said:
So... I played this game a lot this weekend, and half of it was farming mats (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), crossing long zones to specific spots (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), reading up on specific methods that have to be done to get certain special items (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), and grinding reputations (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO). After all this I'm finally lvl 27 and ready to raid (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), but I'll probably have to get into a clan/guild first (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), and they'll probably want me to finish up the last few upgrades I have on my items before they'll let me into their group (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO).
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Something tells me this game is an MMO. But I maybe wrong though since Bungie said that this game isn't an MMO.
 
lilbabycat said:
So... I played this game a lot this weekend, and half of it was farming mats (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), crossing long zones to specific spots (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), reading up on specific methods that have to be done to get certain special items (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), and grinding reputations (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO). After all this I'm finally lvl 27 and ready to raid (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), but I'll probably have to get into a clan/guild first (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO), and they'll probably want me to finish up the last few upgrades I have on my items before they'll let me into their group (REMEMBER: THIS GAME ISN'T AN MMO).
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Having elements from an mmo doesn't make it an mmo.

It's missing the "massive" part of the mmo genre.

There's really not an "open world" feeling to the game (you can't go off the beaten path that much).

Yes it has loot and gear, that doesn't make it an mmo.

It's much more like Diablo then an MMO.
 
Destiny tears away all that massively multiplayer crap and gets right to the good stuff: reputation grinding.
 
Stiler said:
Having elements from an mmo doesn't make it an mmo.

It's missing the "massive" part of the mmo genre.

There's really not an "open world" feeling to the game (you can't go off the beaten path that much).

Yes it has loot and gear, that doesn't make it an mmo.

It's much more like Diablo then an MMO.
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So basically, it has very few of the good things typical of an MMO, but many of the bad things.

No wonder the used market is flooded with copies of this game. Many people seem to just be playing through the campaign, maybe a dozen or two rounds of Crucible/PVP, but not have much interest or tolerance for the grinding aspects. So much for Bungie's "10 year" plan.
 
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DPI said:
So basically, it has very few of the good things typical of an MMO, but many of the bad things.

No wonder the used market is flooded with copies of this game. Many people seem to just be playing through the campaign, maybe a dozen or two rounds of Crucible/PVP, but not have much interest or tolerance for the grinding aspects. So much for Bungie's "10 year" plan.
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Out of my 23 friends on PS4 all but 2 have sold their copies, including me. Game is just bad.

Also i think the Angry Joe hits the name on the head when it comes to how myself and all my friends feel about the game.

Normally I don't really agree with these Youtube personalities but the this guy nails it.

6/10 score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzopWRXK_r4
 
At this point PVP has become an exercise in getting instagibbed and trade killing. See someone right next to you on your radar? Marvel at how you both round the corner into each other and promptly murder one another. There's no outplaying or juking people. It's not uncommon for people to come around corners already charging a fusion rifle because everyone knows where everyone is at near any time. And yet I hear the cries that "Ughguggfgh it'll just be COD if you remove that stuff!" Then make sure your defining features are fucking fun. 95 percent of the player base still uses auto rifles only because I dunno hundreds of thousands of gameplay hours worth of statistics from alpha and beta meant basically nothing and they managed to balance nothing in a meaningful way.

What about other stuff like gunplay? If you're engaged in a firefight that's coming down to the wire, don't be surprised when nobody emerges the victor. Try not to be even more surprised when one of you scores the kill SEVERAL SECONDS after the fact. I mean, the delay is comical sometimes. If you complained about Battlefield at any point in your life, this game will have you wanting to disembowel yourself. If you're close enough to melee someone, they'll probably try the same... which is a near guarantee you're both going to be dropping dead when the dust clears.

Ok, what about the cool stuff like jetpacks and supers you may wonder? If someone has their super up, get ready to respawn -- you're fucked. You're also fucked if they have heavy ammo since the rocket launchers will very happily one shot you from full to dead just by landing within 10 feet of you. When you get instakilled 3 times in a row with literally no way to counter it because you happened to run across someone with no qualms about blowing their super on a single person (and then immediately die again from a rocket) it starts to get more grating than anything since you're not even shooting shit at that point. Sure, you will eventually return the favor and pop someone with your I-Win button, but it's not satisfying and it's not really fun. I made a hunter last night and my super involves me mashing R1. I have cleared out entire points several times already by supering and watching as I dart around at the speed of light getting free kills and tanking 40 shots while it happens. If you fuck up and die in the couple seconds it takes to actually do the animation and start the super, guess what? You get to try again.

Furthermore, you need to use a fucking website to get groups for some content in a sane way. A third party website. I did the weekly heroic ALONE, completely solo, boss and all -- and yet I can't just matchmake for it because reasons. Next, the communication options are shit and you don't get auto fireteamed with your party members in pve or pvp so good luck. The loot system is pure randomness so you can either get lucky as fuck or grind your way out of the level stall you will invariably hit. You literally do not have to contribute anything to get good gear. I've gotten matched into a pvp game that finished under a minute later. I got 0 kills, did nothing whatsoever, and got a reward where others that played the game got nothing. I've seen dudes go AFK and get legendaries. What's even worse is that there's like a 30 percent chance to get a legendary out of a legendary engram, so enjoy getting shafted. At that point doing the reasonably fun things like strikes are also considerably less efficient than killing thousands of things by killing yourself mid-mission to farm an event where a huge horde of shit spawns, or running in circles opening chests for hours.

The raid is good, it's how the game should be. It's the most interesting content by far. It can be fun, it has potential, but there's no escaping the blatant flaws and frustrations. As of now, I'll say 6.5 / 10.

Wake me on patch. I've mostly enjoyed myself, but it's become more tedium than unique, interesting experiences.
 
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We really shouldn't be expecting much from Bungie now. I'm playing through Halo Reach at the moment and I think it's the worst Halo game (outright broken checkpoint system, idiotic weapon placements, downright retarded friendly AI, the list goes on). You're only as good as your last game.
 
socK said:
At this point PVP has become an exercise in getting instagibbed and trade killing. See someone right next to you on your radar? Marvel at how you both round the corner into each other and promptly murder one another. There's no outplaying or juking people. It's not uncommon for people to come around corners already charging a fusion rifle because everyone knows where everyone is at near any time. And yet I hear the cries that "Ughguggfgh it'll just be COD if you remove that stuff!" Then make sure your defining features are fucking fun. 95 percent of the player base still uses auto rifles only because I dunno hundreds of thousands of gameplay hours worth of statistics from alpha and beta meant basically nothing and they managed to balance nothing in a meaningful way.

What about other stuff like gunplay? If you're engaged in a firefight that's coming down to the wire, don't be surprised when nobody emerges the victor. Try not to be even more surprised when one of you scores the kill SEVERAL SECONDS after the fact. I mean, the delay is comical sometimes. If you complained about Battlefield at any point in your life, this game will have you wanting to disembowel yourself. If you're close enough to melee someone, they'll probably try the same... which is a near guarantee you're both going to be dropping dead when the dust clears.

Ok, what about the cool stuff like jetpacks and supers you may wonder? If someone has their super up, get ready to respawn -- you're fucked. You're also fucked if they have heavy ammo since the rocket launchers will very happily one shot you from full to dead just by landing within 10 feet of you. When you get instakilled 3 times in a row with literally no way to counter it because you happened to run across someone with no qualms about blowing their super on a single person (and then immediately die again from a rocket) it starts to get more grating than anything since you're not even shooting shit at that point. Sure, you will eventually return the favor and pop someone with your I-Win button, but it's not satisfying and it's not really fun. I made a hunter last night and my super involves me mashing R1. I have cleared out entire points several times already by supering and watching as I dart around at the speed of light getting free kills and tanking 40 shots while it happens. If you fuck up and die in the couple seconds it takes to actually do the animation and start the super, guess what? You get to try again.

Furthermore, you need to use a fucking website to get groups for some content in a sane way. A third party website. I did the weekly heroic ALONE, completely solo, boss and all -- and yet I can't just matchmake for it because reasons. Next, the communication options are shit and you don't get auto fireteamed with your party members in pve or pvp so good luck. The loot system is pure randomness so you can either get lucky as fuck or grind your way out of the level stall you will invariably hit. You literally do not have to contribute anything to get good gear. I've gotten matched into a pvp game that finished under a minute later. I got 0 kills, did nothing whatsoever, and got a reward where others that played the game got nothing. I've seen dudes go AFK and get legendaries. What's even worse is that there's like a 30 percent chance to get a legendary out of a legendary engram, so enjoy getting shafted. At that point doing the reasonably fun things like strikes are also considerably less efficient than killing thousands of things by killing yourself mid-mission to farm an event where a huge horde of shit spawns, or running in circles opening chests for hours.

The raid is good, it's how the game should be. It's the most interesting content by far. It can be fun, it has potential, but there's no escaping the blatant flaws and frustrations. As of now, I'll say 6.5 / 10.

Wake me on patch. I've mostly enjoyed myself, but it's become more tedium than unique, interesting experiences.
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A *little* embellished on the pvp stuff, but overall the truth. I spent all weekend grinding and now I'm pretty much "capped" with lvl 27 gear, grinding to get items to upgrade the gear's stats. I could get a few more weapons for different vulnerabilities, but that isn't exactly something I'm excited to strive for.
 
socK said:
At this point PVP has become an exercise in getting instagibbed and trade killing. See someone right next to you on your radar? Marvel at how you both round the corner into each other and promptly murder one another. There's no outplaying or juking people. It's not uncommon for people to come around corners already charging a fusion rifle because everyone knows where everyone is at near any time. And yet I hear the cries that "Ughguggfgh it'll just be COD if you remove that stuff!" Then make sure your defining features are fucking fun. 95 percent of the player base still uses auto rifles only because I dunno hundreds of thousands of gameplay hours worth of statistics from alpha and beta meant basically nothing and they managed to balance nothing in a meaningful way.

What about other stuff like gunplay? If you're engaged in a firefight that's coming down to the wire, don't be surprised when nobody emerges the victor. Try not to be even more surprised when one of you scores the kill SEVERAL SECONDS after the fact. I mean, the delay is comical sometimes. If you complained about Battlefield at any point in your life, this game will have you wanting to disembowel yourself. If you're close enough to melee someone, they'll probably try the same... which is a near guarantee you're both going to be dropping dead when the dust clears.

Ok, what about the cool stuff like jetpacks and supers you may wonder? If someone has their super up, get ready to respawn -- you're fucked. You're also fucked if they have heavy ammo since the rocket launchers will very happily one shot you from full to dead just by landing within 10 feet of you. When you get instakilled 3 times in a row with literally no way to counter it because you happened to run across someone with no qualms about blowing their super on a single person (and then immediately die again from a rocket) it starts to get more grating than anything since you're not even shooting shit at that point. Sure, you will eventually return the favor and pop someone with your I-Win button, but it's not satisfying and it's not really fun. I made a hunter last night and my super involves me mashing R1. I have cleared out entire points several times already by supering and watching as I dart around at the speed of light getting free kills and tanking 40 shots while it happens. If you fuck up and die in the couple seconds it takes to actually do the animation and start the super, guess what? You get to try again.

Furthermore, you need to use a fucking website to get groups for some content in a sane way. A third party website. I did the weekly heroic ALONE, completely solo, boss and all -- and yet I can't just matchmake for it because reasons. Next, the communication options are shit and you don't get auto fireteamed with your party members in pve or pvp so good luck. The loot system is pure randomness so you can either get lucky as fuck or grind your way out of the level stall you will invariably hit. You literally do not have to contribute anything to get good gear. I've gotten matched into a pvp game that finished under a minute later. I got 0 kills, did nothing whatsoever, and got a reward where others that played the game got nothing. I've seen dudes go AFK and get legendaries. What's even worse is that there's like a 30 percent chance to get a legendary out of a legendary engram, so enjoy getting shafted. At that point doing the reasonably fun things like strikes are also considerably less efficient than killing thousands of things by killing yourself mid-mission to farm an event where a huge horde of shit spawns, or running in circles opening chests for hours.

The raid is good, it's how the game should be. It's the most interesting content by far. It can be fun, it has potential, but there's no escaping the blatant flaws and frustrations. As of now, I'll say 6.5 / 10.

Wake me on patch. I've mostly enjoyed myself, but it's become more tedium than unique, interesting experiences.
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The only thing I find annoying is not being able to dodge supers like the warlocks or titan like I was able to in alpha and beta. Wtf? I used to be able to double jump away from it, now the blast radius is HUGE.
 
refraxion said:
The only thing I find annoying is not being able to dodge supers like the warlocks or titan like I was able to in alpha and beta. Wtf? I used to be able to double jump away from it, now the blast radius is HUGE.
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I've died probably 30+ feet above Titan supers before -- the one where the slam the ground.

But yeah, you really can't dodge them. At the absolute edge of the blast you can barely survive sometimes with like a nuthair of health. 99% of the time you're guaranteed dead.
 
refraxion said:
The only thing I find annoying is not being able to dodge supers like the warlocks or titan like I was able to in alpha and beta. Wtf? I used to be able to double jump away from it, now the blast radius is HUGE.
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The alpha and beta wouldn't have had the passives that affect the super unlocked...like the Warlock's ability to throw three nova bombs instead of one.
 
With the exception of the cost of development and his usual dumb presentation he made fair points.
 
next-Jin said:
With the exception of the cost of development and his usual dumb presentation he made fair points.
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I try to be patient with Joe but sometimes he just grates on me with his personality. I guess I'll watch the whole thing this time. I did enjoy his review of ESO.
 
Hopefully there are some good bounties today. I struggled in going from level 14-17 because all of the good single-player bounties were gone yesterday. Playing the Crucible is torture for me.
 
Domingo said:
Hopefully there are some good bounties today. I struggled in going from level 14-17 because all of the good single-player bounties were gone yesterday. Playing the Crucible is torture for me.
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The bounty system is idiotic. I cant believe they still have bounties for a PVP mode that isnt even in the game anymore
 
naticus said:
Out of my 23 friends on PS4 all but 2 have sold their copies, including me. Game is just bad.

Also i think the Angry Joe hits the name on the head when it comes to how myself and all my friends feel about the game.

Normally I don't really agree with these Youtube personalities but the this guy nails it.

6/10 score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzopWRXK_r4
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Seems like a 6/10 is pretty generous for this game. Sure, you can say the gunplay is good, graphics are good, etc. But if the game isn't actually FUN then who cares? Plus, the DLC bait nonsense would immediately knock off 5 points IMO...companies should not be allowed to get away with that shit.
 
I'm level 17 going to see what level 20 offers but mainly this game just strains my eyes.
I seen some moments in the game which make me like the game but the thing as a entire is pretty bad.
500 million down the drain spent on hookers and beer and Titan Graphics cards.
 
The setup for the game has become a bit of a joke in my house.
"You're going to run to that spot, make your robot start talking, and then fight off waves of enemies again...? That's this whole game isn't it? That's all I've seen you do."

I explain that it's at least kinda fun, but it really is tiresome.
 
I still find the game really fun.. but I knew what I was getting into coming in the game, I didn't expect any grandiose MMO style game because that's not what it is. I also really enjoy the gunplay, and crucible is actually fun to me. I really like Control a lot... so does my rocket launcher ;).
 
Man what a bunch of bitches here, stop complaining and don't play the game if you don't like it. I am having the time of my life playing this game but felt like borderlands/COD was the biggest waste of money.....Stop crying and go play something else, nobody is forcing you.
 
Andyk5 said:
Man what a bunch of bitches here, stop complaining and don't play the game if you don't like it. I am having the time of my life playing this game but felt like borderlands/COD was the biggest waste of money.....Stop crying and go play something else, nobody is forcing you.
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Lol god forbid people voice a concern about a game on a game forum. I wish these complaints had popped up before I purchased it, I use the forums as a good review of a game so I appreciate shit like this. If you looking to fanboi all over this game go to the official forums, tons of people their doing that.
 
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