Dell U2412M

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  1. sparks

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    Benq V2400W

    Benq in my opinion is crap.
    after 6 months the power button fell out.
    whites look like crap, and overall its just junk.
     
  2. TharkunX

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    Thanks a lot for the info, that helps :)
    It confirms l should go for the U2412M then.
    I also like the fact that there is a zero dead/stuck pixel policy on Dell monitors.

    Btw, there is one online store where I found the V2400W available : http://www.pixmania.be/be/fr/1473362/art/benq/v2400w-24-lcd-1920x1200-4.html
    But I'm guessing the support wouldn't be as good if I had a problem with the screen, since it's discontinued..
     
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  3. senna89

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    are you know the percentual of SRGB covered by this dell ?
     
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  4. Drags

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    referring to the spec sheet for the LM240WU8-SLA2 used in the U21412M, the backlighting covers 71% NTSC, and 95.8% of sRGB
     
  5. Funkdancer

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    A shoot has been done! After taking 248 images I discovered there was a very fine layer of grease on the lens.. this means the cursor looks a bit soft in places. For the purpose of this shot it has no impact but I just thought I'd point it out. Also note that there's some lens flare from my galaxy background in the shots that feature these. I did want to include them though as I also have a low level of light turned on in the room for those.

    Full shoot is here on my FLICKR account - please use the slideshow in max screen (arrows bottom right) as the black framing will improve contrast (remove big white surfaces that tend to kill the detail in the darks).

    Some of the most representative shots might be:

    Left - http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6126/6021301589_b66fb811ca_z.jpg
    Middle - http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6021307097_e651831c21_z.jpg
    Middle - http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6123/6021898162_a1785932ae_z.jpg
    Midde - http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6130/6021309199_94f49bf8be_z.jpg
    Left + middle: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6140/6021856610_dfb51bb6b6_z.jpg
    Right - http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6121/6021314409_6c1225056b_z.jpg
     
  6. Snowdog

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    Much better set. shows actual bleeds on edges in a couple of places without the extreme exaggeration.

    Interesting that you are getting something that looks like Lens flare in some of these shots, you have glowing areas below the screens.

    Edit: Ooops, lens flare already noted. That is what I get for skimming and clicking straight to the links.
     
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  7. Kenjiwing

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    I have an eval u2410 and u2412m on the way now.. looking forward to doing a side by side.
     
  8. Funkdancer

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    Thanks - yep, I did note that too. I think it's to do with lens being slightly smudgy, as I wrote. Micro fiber cloth is drying after wash now..
     
  9. 10e

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    Awesome. Try it out and take a look. One quick request to compare the sRGB mode of the U2410 to the U2412M and note if any colors look stronger or more saturated, or under-saturated in comparison on the U2410.

    Thanks!

    I have four or five for my screens and a few for my car windows. They are invaluable!

    The shots are much better now. The right one is basically like mine. The left one I could live with, but the middle one I could not. I would 100% return the middle one and 80% return the middle one.

    Where were these built Funkdancer? Czech Republic?

    It's scary to see the build quality variances. Hopefully Dell will iron this out if people continue to return them for this problem.

    Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
     
  10. Oled

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    @ Funkdancer

    That is very much back light bleed even with short exposure.

    [​IMG]

    I understand that you choose to send them back. I would never accept such poor quality either.
     
  11. rockus_123

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    Hi,

    Can someone tell me if this hdmi to dvi cable from best buy works ok for connecting my HP dv7t laptop to the Dell 2412M monitor:

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+...able/2730681.p?id=1218347171967&skuId=2730681

    This cable lets you connect your AppleĀ® TV to your HDTV or projector with a DVI port to easily transmit video signals. The gold-plated copper contacts ensure enhanced signal transfer.
    What's Included

    Belkin 12' HDMI-to-DVI-D Cable

    Product Features

    From our expanded online assortment; not available in all Best Buy stores
    Compatible with Apple TV
    As well as most HDTVs and projectors with a DVI port for wide-ranging use.
    Gold-plated copper contacts
    Ensure enhanced video signal transfer.
    PVC cable jacket
    Provides durability.
    Molded-strain relief
    For enhanced strength.
    Apple, the Apple logo and iTunes are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries. iPod is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc.


    Thanks.
    Rockus
     
  12. Snowdog

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    Should be fine. Standard HMDI-DVI cable and AFAIK your laptop has standard HDMI port. So golden.
     
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  14. elo408

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    So, if you dont like that the monitor has crazy light issues, you can just return for a new one?
     
  15. senna89

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    very good.
     
  16. flwolf

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    Those RGB settings look great on mine. My brightness and contrast settings were identical to yours. I'm using this monitor on a hackintosh, so I had changed the monitor setting to Mac, but I think the colors look better when set to PC.

    The coating isn't bad, but I sure can notice it on light colors.

    All in all, I am becoming more and more happy with it.
     
  17. 10e

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    Glad to hear it. I am not 100% sure as ToastyX is more of the MacXpert but I believe Macs are gamma 2.2 now, so that might be why.

    I have a Macbook pro for work. I'll hook it up to the screen and see how she looks sometime soon.
     
  18. Hurin

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    Just tried those settings as well too. Look darn good! Though I may boost the blue a bit since I like a "colder" white.

    Since these look so good, may I ask, what are you running for "sharpness?"

    I know, I know, I should just be configuring to my own tastes/preferences. But I figured it can't hurt to ask since you seem to have taken a lot of time to dial in your particular panel so carefully.
     
  19. Funkdancer

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    Thanks for your advice, much appreciated - good news on my right screen too. I decided to get the two monitors swapped over. If nothing else it'll increase my chances of getting good ones. They were built a bit further east - China. My S/Ns were all: CN-0HC55P-74261-161-xxxx.

    Well, I just called them 10 minutes ago, explained the backlight issue, how the two are much worse than the third, and they were happy to replace with new monitors. So, yes. :)

    Forgot to mention that I set up monitors with these values & brightness / contrast for my updated shoot too, thanks 10e. It looks great. And I still haven't gotten my Spyder out. Will do so once the replacements are here.

    New monitor stand of type "********" (*I'm not allowed to mention its make, if I am to understand what happened to my previous post on it it) is on its way from the US, it'd be great if it got here before the replacements as the quick release mounting mechanisms will make it a lot easier to set up. Current one is a two man job.

    Anyway, can't wait to post updated pics once it's all here.
     
  20. a_rabbit

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    Just a data point.

    I ordered this on Saturday, July 30 -- 2-day air, full price.
    They estimated delivery at Friday, Aug 5.
    On Aug 4, they changed the ETA to Wed, Aug 10
    Today, on Aug 9, they changed the ETA to Monday, August 15.

    Way to go Dell! :rolleyes:
     
  21. sonic_blue

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    That sucks. Dell says mine's arriving tomorrow, ordered August 3. Can't wait!
     
  22. LEXNOKIA

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    I just ordered mine yesterday and on the Dell site it said that delivery takes 5-7 days, in e-mail up to 14 days and the guy from the customer service told me it can take up to 4 weeks. :D
     
  23. 10e

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    40 or 50 seems to be almost identical but 40 seems to be a tiny bit softer, so I'm running that for now.
     
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    received my eval unit yesterday.. I use a lot of dell monitors including owned 3 u2410s.. I can say this is a quality monitor.

    Does anyone know how to get to the dev menu to see screen burn in time etc?
     
  26. gsteinberg92

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    Whaaaa?! From where can I get a silver edition monitor mentioned in the review? As far as I know the one I ordered is black. :(
     
  27. senna89

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    the responsive of u2412m is better or lower tha U2311h ?
     
  28. sblantipodi

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    that site is really good, I like their reviews but they need to upgrade their hardware if they want to continue to test monitors (specially WCG-CCFL monitors, ok this is not the case)...
     
  29. sblantipodi

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    Its strange that also if this isn't a WCG monitor it has a deeper black level than U2410.

    Finally they added one important key factor of IPS panel in the review,
    Dirty screen look caused by AG coating.
    Personally I had both IPS/VA panels (Dell U2410, Nec 2490 for IPS) and (Eizo S2433W for VA).
    I can't live with the IPS AG coating once seen the VA sharpness.
     
  30. khwain

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    Are you in the states? I ordered mine the same day as you (around 4pm I think if it matters), and the site is saying it shipped today, eta the 11th. FWIW, my old eta was the 15th.

    Either way, I'm used to delay anything dell (woo sending my latitude back for the 6th time this summer :|)

    EDIT: JK I ordered on your first est delivery
     
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  31. jeremyshaw

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    Lol. Dell has used the same LG 3H antiglare coating on all of their Ultrasharp monitors, so far :p Yes, that's including the U2711 and the U2412M.
     
  32. 10e

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    Thanks for that!

    It's not up to the same level of clarity that Samsung S-PVA and AUO A-MVA monitors have, but it's not obtrusive IMHO.

    It's LG, not Dell. Dell TN monitors don't have this issue and neither do their older screens based on S-PVA.

    The U2412M doesn't show as much sparkle as the U2711 and it has nothing to do with the tighter dot pitch of the U2711. I don't even have to see the two screens side-by-side to note the differences.
     
  33. jeremyshaw

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    Doesn't explain apple's glossy ACD27 and it's similar products, nor does it explain Hazro's 27WA, which uses' LG's 2H coating. Dell made the choice with 3H on all their panels, and I agree with the decision (completely? no. But enough that 3H is better than glossy to me).
     
  34. sblantipodi

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    who saied other?
     
  35. a_rabbit

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    Yes, California.
     
  36. richtea

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    Cannot decide weather or not to go for this or the U2311H :confused:
     
  37. senna89

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    ALL MATTE MONITORS HAVE 3H coating type !
    3H means resistanto to damage not harsh ! :rolleyes:

    Flatpanelshd said that U2412M have much overdrive trailing than U2410 :(
     
  38. itshardtochoosealcd

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    Hi there,

    Anyone with this monitor experience the hissing problems of the U2311H....if you do not put it on a specific contrast, it starts hissing??? I tried 3 U2311H monitors from Dell and they were all hissing if contrast wasn't set to 95% and higher...so I returned all of them and got a refund...hopefully this won't happen here...I work in a quiet environment at home.. and this is important for my sanity!
     
  39. jeremyshaw

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    ah, I probabaly misread your intent on the "dirty monitor" thing :p
    really? Explain Hazro's HZ27WA, which was put to market specifically since it had less harsh AG (based on forum response). 2H coating, as a matter of fact :p Where is the 3H there? Maybe if I rolleyes, I'll get a faster response...
     
  40. rmp459

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    weird, i ordered mine via dell small business last thursday and its out for delivery today.