TaintedSquirrel
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Some people have been salty about choices in an AC game since Odyssey came out so I imagine those people will be even more upset about this news.
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From what I recall, the backlash was regarding the lack of choice in the DLC with regards to the direction your character takes, regardless of the choices you made in the base game.
Nah, the purists believe that AC games shouldn't have any choices in them since the games are based on memories through the animus, so it's stuff that's already happened.Salty about what? I had thought the presence of choices was a near universally lauded improvement. Now, I get not liking some particular outcomes or individual choices, but overall the idea I thought everyone approved.
PC - Uplay
April 23 @ 2AM PDT / 5AM EDT / 9AM UTC / 11AM CEST
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April 23 @ 9AM PDT / 12PM EDT / 4PM UTC / 6PM CEST
Xbox One
April 23 @ 12AM local time
PS4
April 23 @ Will be launched throughout the day, times vary per region.
That said, does anyone who has played it so far know if it chronologically comes "after" the main story? Or is it something of a side story?
In general they add something new every 2 or 3 weeks. Usually just a small "Lost Tale of Greece" quest which takes 1 or 2 hours. Every 6 weeks they release a new DLC chapter, which typically takes 5-10 hours. Plus the dailies, weeklies, and the new bosses. Then additions that aren't actual content but extend life (Mastery Levels, Level Cap, Ship Upgrades, and so on).That is alot of hours are they adding content in the game like they promised? To keep it alive basically....They kinda did that with Origins but just added the Bosses and some loot vendors.
Hit mastery 100 yesterday. This character is about 250-300hrs old with the XP boost. I'm on my 3rd NG+ playthrough.
I also passed 1mil on all the basic mats. Threw on all my epic crit gear just to check the stats and I hit 800% CHD (I'm missing the 25% leg enchant in the pic). Basic arrow headshot on a Polymarch hit for 1.5 mil.
I still use the Odysseus set because I like the extra Adrenaline.
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Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.
Roughly how long is this game if you play the story quest and the good quality side quests with store content? I know there are a lot of repeating fetch quest style things that are on bulletin boards (?) but I wouldn't be interested in doing those. Just the side quests that actually have a purpose or real objective. I didn't like Origins but like with that game, the theme/setting is fairly attractive.
And would you have to spend time doing grindy things or seeking out better gear or can you easily level up by playing just the main story and some of the side quests with story lines?
There are 3 'main' campaigns. Assuming you don't skip cutscenes...Roughly how long is this game if you play the story quest and the good quality side quests with store content? I know there are a lot of repeating fetch quest style things that are on bulletin boards (?) but I wouldn't be interested in doing those. Just the side quests that actually have a purpose or real objective. I didn't like Origins but like with that game, the theme/setting is fairly attractive.
And would you have to spend time doing grindy things or seeking out better gear or can you easily level up by playing just the main story and some of the side quests with story lines?
The general rule of thumb: Only skip quests that are regular black/white icons (2 arrows, hourglass). But do quests which have the following colors,And would you have to spend time doing grindy things or seeking out better gear or can you easily level up by playing just the main story and some of the side quests with story lines?
https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/brqrfu/assassins_creed_odyssey_130_patch_notes/
There are 3 'main' campaigns. Assuming you don't skip cutscenes...
So to be clear these three aren't DLC right? Seems like it should be easy enough to skip the junk quests. Black/white icons = skip, everything else should be worth playing. If I play I'll just get the main game and if I like it get the DLC down the road when its all done. Looks like it would take another weekend to play through the DLC alone which would be a great way to get back into it later in the year or next year.
Indeed, they are not DLC as he described it. Yes, pretty much everything but the "grey icons, which are repeatable quests" are definitely worth doing. Also, you will get a LOT of additional playtime out of open world objectives - pretty much every content location on the map that has a "?" icon until you get close and discover it, and then it shows its type of locale - a cave, leader house, bandit camp, military camp, catacomb etc... which will each have certain requirements to "clear" the area. It can range from something like "Open treasure chests 0/2" (there's a helpful thing to display local requirements when you're in the area if you forget), or something like a Fort (one per "zone", tons of soldiers) " Kill Fort Leader 0/1, Kill Captains 0/2, Burn supply caches 0/3, loot chests 0/3" .
There are also other enjoyable game systems such as the various zone control systems - each major area can be either controlled by Athens or Sparta. By doing things to weaken whomever is in charge, from small things like killing soldiers or burning resource cache to bigger ones like plundering the "nation chest" in the Fort, it can lower the level of control over the zone. Lowering the level of control means that the Leader of each area (ie randomized) will be more vulnerable (ie At 3/3 control bars the Leader has a HUGE retinue of elite troops and hangs out in fortified places, but at 2/3 he loses the Elites and goes elsewhere and at 1/3 he's basically almost by himself in less fortified areas) - killing Leaders is a major blow the the area control AND it helps to unlock one of the best "gear engravings' that allow +all damage you do. When you get the control bar down to its last third, a Conquest Battle is available and you can either decide to fight for the defenders or the attackers by going to their flag. When the battle resolves, the area will "reset" , perhaps under new management if you chose (sometimes it can be beneficial to keep an area as it was depending on your other requirements), and the control bar will be filled, a new leader will be in place etc.
So the Conquest/Peloponnesian War mode is just one of the other elements of content, there's also the Arena, the huge Mercenary system and related "crime/wanted" system (ie a GTA like setup where you'll get Mercs called on you as you do things that increase your "wanted meter". Regardless if they're after you or not Mercs wll be in the world. Killing them typically grants good gear and unlocks engravings, but there's a whole Mercenaries tab in the menu that shows the various "ranks". If you kill a Merc positioned ahead of you, you move up a bit. By doing this,you can move through the ranks which have massive benefits like 50% discounts on costs of items, upgrades, engravings and more. Cursor over each tier to see its benefit in the menu), the entire naval battle system, and much more. The bounty boards can be a good source of quick cash, but you can avoid the randomized fetch quests as described above. Next week's update will make Bounty and Contract missions much better, especially the big / long ones. Note that those with names in Blue award Orichalcum and are typically Daily or Weekly - Orichalcum is the currency that can be used at a special vendor who gives items from the stuff you could normally not find in game and instead only buy in the "Helix Store" for real money.
There are other game systems and dynamics that can give you a LOT to do, even without feeling like you have to grind at all. This goes double if you're a completionist with open world games like I am and want to "clear" an area once I visit it. Note that the level scaling keeps things fresh and as you start out you'll find areas on the map FAR beyond your level, but as you level up you'll see areas under your level upgraded to just below yours etc. Oh and if I'm correct, the different branches of the "main quest" will mean unlocking additional endings (ie Unless you defeat all the cultists it isn't "really" the ending. There is also another "ending " related to something special even prior to Expansion content). One thing to remember is that in both side and main quests, you responses and choices matter - sometimes in a big way. If you want the "best version" of the "family/main quest" ending, I'd suggest looking things up a no-spoilers guide in advance to decisions to make at critical points of the story. Some of them seem relatively logical (ie NOT killing someone who may have a family connection when you meet them early on) but others are more obtuse (ie there's a bad guy you are given a choice to kill in public, or in private. Public "seems" like the right thing to do perhaps, but it will muck up your "best ending" from what I read, so go for private). Unlike many games, it isn't like the ending is dependent on only things you do in the last 30 min of the game, so just keep that in mind! Of course, there are lots of other side and main quest choices that have many branches, but don't necessarily affect the ending.
Finally, I would consider buying the Gold (or Ultimate if you wish) edition from the start. First of all, the whole thing is hugely on discount at GMG at current, and will be for the next 20-ish hours if I'm correct. The Gold = $43.00 (though sold out at the moment. They usually restock but in case they don't), Ultimate = $51.00, which are like 57% off. Getting the game + the season pass means you'll be able to level past the standard level cap of 50 even during the "main" campaign - something I found useful as I'm not even done with the main campaign and am at 50, unlocking additional benefits. I'm not sure if this is viable or not without the season pass/expansion style DLC, but I remember the same benefit happened back when I played AC Origins and had the expansions from the start. Furthermore, if you're at all interested in Assassin's Creed III Remastered (+ Liberation Remastered), you'll get that in the Season Pass. If you want to pick it up the base game anyway all right, but I've not seen the a la carte season pass go on sale as frequently or as greatly discounted as the game versions.
In any case, hope this helps. I'm nowhere near as far as TaintedSquirrel in the game, but if you have any questions I'll do my best.
Thanks. Decided to try it. Skipping all the bulletin boards, only doing quests that appear with a question mark. Pretty easy to do thankfully. Trying to do those "battle field" side quests but they more or less require you to attack military bases and get those annoying damage sponges on you that seem to spawn each time you're about to start or turn in a quest. Seems like they punish you for trying to play the side quests which I find dumb.
Overall, this game feels extremely sterile to me. Too much running around, collecting meager rewards, slow story pacing and I had to kill a pig (same level as me) and after stabbing it around 50 times with a weapon (Rare or Epic, same level as me as well) and only draining maybe 30% of its HP I just had to quit. Not going to give up on the game yet though. Have to say though, even though I didn't like Origins I think I am liked the setting so much more. Egypt sure was a fun place to explore/fight.
Thanks. Decided to try it. Skipping all the bulletin boards, only doing quests that appear with a question mark. Pretty easy to do thankfully. Trying to do those "battle field" side quests but they more or less require you to attack military bases and get those annoying damage sponges on you that seem to spawn each time you're about to start or turn in a quest. Seems like they punish you for trying to play the side quests which I find dumb.
Overall, this game feels extremely sterile to me. Too much running around, collecting meager rewards, slow story pacing and I had to kill a pig (same level as me) and after stabbing it around 50 times with a weapon (Rare or Epic, same level as me as well) and only draining maybe 30% of its HP I just had to quit. Not going to give up on the game yet though. Have to say though, even though I didn't like Origins I think I am liked the setting so much more. Egypt sure was a fun place to explore/fight.
if you are just starting out then you need to stick to areas appropriate to your level. you need to do some side quests or at some point you will find yourself underleveled for main quests.
you can try different leveling strategies. one is to go full max assassin. another is to go full max archer. if you can nail headshots you get a xp boost making it extra worthwhile.
Edit: The other problem with the grind in this game is that by the time you can afford to upgrade your gear to your current level, you're already about to level up again making it entirely worthless. And this is with doing all side quests that come your way. You can finish 4-5 side quests and have enough money to upgrade maybe one item. Then spend some time depopulating Greece of boars to get the supplies needed to upgrade/enchant.
gear is much more important than you may think. generally you want the bonuses to do at least two damage attributes in your chosen method of dealing damage. So it isn't necessarily that abilities do little damage, but that you don't have gear with the appropriate multipliers.
As an example, for a hunter, you want every piece of gear to give hunter damage, some pieces can double dip, you also want headshot damage, crit, adrenaline, far damage, elite damage, fire arrows, bonus fire damage, etc. Every attribute should be useful, no spear damage when you never use a spear.
You eventually will start getting gold sets, I never played the game beyond level 50, so I preferred purples since they gave more bonuses.