Woman Assaults Man For Taking Pictures With A Drone

[sfsuphysics]

Yeah I'd probably be in jail because I would have bit her finger clean off if she tried to fishhook me like she did. I really REALLY hope she got arrested for making a false police report by saying he tried to assault her... not sure how that would have flied considering he was the guy with the ripped shirt and possibly bruises/blood on his face from where she hammer fisted him.

That said, anyone notice his zipper was down at the end of that video? Are we sure he wasn't doing anything else with the video of beach goers he just took??

 

[Galvin]

Better not go near her with google glass. She'll rip it from your face and beat you with it.

 

[Sly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6R5HrpGB2s

This is the fullscreen video of his drone flight, which she assaults him for. Since last time we had a drone discussion people were attacking the idea. There is another slow motion video with a few hits that you couldn't see in real time, and a bit more after the assault.

I was actually about to post that

For those that are curious, this is typically what you get when recording on a multirotor with a GoPro.

You don't focus on any single object (as you can see, there's no point). Even with an HD camera like a GoPro, the lenses used is so wide, that you can't get any detail at all, you can barely even tell what color their shirts are. The only thing they're good for is showing the scenery. And even if you can see things on the HD video, we can't, atleast not while we're actually controlling it. The downlink we have is just the standard blurred NTSC, just good enough to see if we're about to run into something. If you want detail, you walk over there with a tripod and a zoom lens.

There seems to be some sort of assumption that we can hover a hundred feet up, and watch ants crawling on the ground. That's just ridiculous.

OMG!!! It's a girl in a bikini walking on the beach!

 

[Dekoth-E-]

Feminist Equality.

1) Woman Attacks man, he defends himself and is instantly the hyper aggressive chauvinist, sexist asshole, gets beaten by standby "white knights" and goes to jail for sexual assault.

2) Woman attacks man, he does nothing but record and he is a pussy ass bitch while she get arrested, slapped on the wrist and told to not get recorded next time.

Great Choice.

 

[cdr_74_premium]

Feminist Equality.

1) Woman Attacks man, he defends himself and is instantly the hyper aggressive chauvinist, sexist asshole, gets beaten by standby "white knights" and goes to jail for sexual assault.

2) Woman attacks man, he does nothing but record and he is a pussy ass bitch while she get arrested, slapped on the wrist and told to not get recorded next time.

Great Choice.

This.

 

[Ducman69]

I can't judge without all the facts.

Yes it was a public beach, but why was his zipper unzipped? How low was the RC aircraft? Was he sporting a huge erection with his pecker out while the craft was hovering 10" from her tits?

BTW, for those saying that once she hits you its game on... not in the real world! If some muscle bound jerkoff walking down the street sees you knocking the girls teeth out, it doesn't matter if she started it, him and three of his friends may end up going to town on your ass. The best you can do is pin her down and give her a nippy twister while no one is looking, but to clock her out, not if anyone else can see you and after if the police get involved they won't buy the story that she started it and you were defending yourself... they'll always side with her.

 

[Kaitian]

but why was his zipper unzipped?

Who cares.

 

[ghost6303]

Fix'd it.

you have the right to be protected from unreasonable search and seizure, including spying in public without a warrant if it's intent is to be used randomly against you

you may think you have such a right, but none actually exists in US law....
I assume you refer to the 4th amendment of the US Constitution? The Constitution exists to protect any particular individual US civilian from the US Government itself.

The Constitution does not, itself, legislate what private citizens can do to one another; that is why the Government was formed in the first place; to legislate what private citizens can and cannot do. Since this thread is about a private citizen attacking another private citizen, things like the 4th amendment, and "unreasonable search" and "without a warrant" clearly don't apply here.

Even the first amendment, free speech, doesn't apply; the 1st amendment only protects against legal constraints on speech (ie. she sued him in court, which then barred him from filming on public property). Nothing she was doing to him was legal [punching and kicking him], so no application of Article 1 infringement, either.


The only thing that video shows is that there are crazy people among us, and one of them was caught on tape and arrested yesterday.... the kid flying his drone was breaking exactly zero laws.

 

[Ducman69]

Oops, that's what I get for not reading the whole thread before opening my fat mouth. Yeah, that guy did nothing wrong, except I still don't know why his zipper was unzipped. ;D

 

[ShadowVlican]

Feminist Equality.

1) Woman Attacks man, he defends himself and is instantly the hyper aggressive chauvinist, sexist asshole, gets beaten by standby "white knights" and goes to jail for sexual assault.

2) Woman attacks man, he does nothing but record and he is a pussy ass bitch while she get arrested, slapped on the wrist and told to not get recorded next time.

Great Choice.

+1 this

 

[rivertown_rat]

Ducman69,

Ever forget to zip up after visiting the restroom? Ever?

He's a young geek, going out to fly his toy. In his haste he just forgot to zip up. Probably forgot to put on deodorant as well. So are you going to arrest him for BO? Jeez, it's so obvious from the video that he wasn't perving on anyone. Why assume that there wasn't a perfectly innocent reason for his zip being down?

 

[MavericK]

What a crazy fucking bitch.

 

[Master_shake_]

OMG!!! It's a girl in a bikini walking on the beach!

is that a boob or elbow?!

oh wait no its a knee

 

[bucketlist]

Oops, that's what I get for not reading the whole thread before opening my fat mouth. Yeah, that guy did nothing wrong, except I still don't know why his zipper was unzipped. ;D

Had to watch video again.
Looks like he was smiling at 1:58.

 

[LonerVamp]

What happens inside the bedroom is happening in a private space where you have an expectation of privacy. That's why looking in from outside is illegal. You have no such expectations if you are in the public space.

This is somewhat tangential to the topic at hand, but you might want to look up "peeping tom" laws before you spout too much ignorance.

"...looking in from outside is illegal," is a false claim. Are you loitering? Are you on private property? Are you doing so surrepticiously? What is your purpose/intent? Are you using special equipment for said viewing?

Also, by your statement, you could stand inside your bedroom window, fully naked with the window open, as a bus full of children disembark and you'll be fine. This is actually not true, either.

If things like this were so black and white, we wouldn't have these discussions.

 

[m heisty]

Its not a drone if you have to control it. Fucking idiots.

 

[Odnocer]

LOL That guy sounds like Bubbles when he's yelling for help.

Woman's a rock hard Demi Moore GI Jane type. No... she's just a typical Connecticut woman. You don't believe? Well then, come and visit Connecticut's bars and beaches, the women's upper arms are as big as their calfs.

I prefer Ronda Rousey! Ronda "absolutely could beat a lot of the guys" according to UFC welterweight contender, Jake Ellenberger.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y6rK-_Hlr...L2vagE/s1600/Ronda+Rousey+New+Pic+2014+01.png

 

[gopher0x]

The space outside bedroom windows is public too, see what happens if you stand there looking inside.

You would be standing on private property, AND there is 'expectation of privacy' within your castle/home.

expectation of privacy is a legal term, look it up , and see where and where not it is applicable.

a public beach ..it is not.

 

[Megalith]

This wouldn't have been a problem if the guy was hot. Women are so full of shit.

 

[runudownquick]

That chick is so f'n hot. Obviously, she likes it rough.

Ewwww wth she's nasty! Someone linked her Facebook page and trust me if you look at it she is not attractive in the least. Just a bunch of terrible selfies all over the place.

 

[Odnocer]

Fuck that noise. It's a public beach. You have no right to or expectation of privacy when in public places. Don't want to be filmed in public? Then don't go outside. People seriously need to get over this kind of shit. Do you know how many cameras you're caught on in an average day if you're in anything resembling an urban area? Probably dozens if not hundreds. If you're not cool with that go and build yourself a cabin deep in the woods somewhere. Even then you'll still have to deal with the cameras on the satellites.

Go ahead, take a picture of me...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BPWVzXHJ0...wuWkKw/s1600/Ronda+Rousey+New+Pic+2014+08.jpg

https://www.aclu.org/free-speech/know-your-rights-photographers

United States

Local, state, and national laws may exist pertaining to photographing or videotaping. Laws that are present may vary from one jurisdiction to the next, and may be stricter in some places and more lenient in others, so it is important to know the laws present in one's location. Typical laws in the United States are as follows:
Public property

It is legal to photograph or videotape anything and anyone on any public property.[39]
Photographing or videotaping a tourist attraction, whether publicly or privately owned, is generally considered legal, unless explicitly prohibited by a specific law and/or statute.

Private property

Photography may be prohibited or restricted within an area of property by the property owner.[39] At the same time, a property owner generally cannot restrict the photographing of the property by individuals who are not located within the bounds of the property.[39]

Photography on private property that is generally open to the public (e.g., a shopping mall) is usually permitted unless explicitly prohibited by posted signs. Even if no such signs are posted, the property owner or agent can ask a person to stop photographing, and if the person refuses to do so, the owner or agent can ask the person to leave the property. In some jurisdictions, a person who refuses to leave can be arrested for criminal trespass, and many jurisdictions recognize the common-law right to use reasonable force to remove a trespasser; a person who forcibly resists a lawful removal may be liable for battery, assault, or both.[40]

Entry onto other private property usually requires permission from the property owner.
Some jurisdictions have laws regarding filming while in a hospital or health care facility. Where permitted, such filming may be useful in gathering evidence in cases of abuse, neglect, or malpractice.

Privacy issues
Further information: Privacy laws of the United States

Photographing private property from within the public domain is legal, with the exception of an area that is generally regarded as private, such as a bedroom, bathroom, or hotel room.[39] In some states, there is no definition of "private," in which case, there is a general expectation of privacy.[citation needed] Should the subjects not attempt to conceal their private affairs, their actions immediately become public to a photographer using an average lens or video camera.[citation needed]

Many places have laws prohibiting photographing private areas under a person's clothing without that person's permission. This also applies to any filming of another within a public restroom or locker room. Some jurisdictions have completely banned the use of a camera phone within a restroom or locker room in order to prevent this. The United States enacted the Video Voyeurism Prevention Act of 2004 to punish those who intentionally capture an individual's private areas without consent, when the person knew the subject had an expectation of privacy.[41] Additionally, state laws have been passed addressing the issue as well.[42]

Commercial photography

In certain locations, such as California State Parks, commercial photography requires a permit and sometimes proof of insurance.[43][44] In places such as the city of Hermosa Beach in California, commercial photography on both public property and private property is subject to permit regulations and possibly also insurance requirements.[45]

At the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal National Historical Park, commercial photography requires a permit under certain circumstances.[46] For photography that involves the advertising of a commercial product or service, or photography that involves sets or props or models, a permit is required.[46] In addition, if the photography has aspects that may be disruptive to others, such as additional equipment or a significant number of personnel or the use of public areas for more than four hours, it is necessary to obtain a permit.[46] If a photographer or related personnel need to access an area during a time when the area is normally closed, or if access to a restricted area is involved, the photography requires a permit.[46] For commercial portrait photographers, there is a streamlined process for photography permits.[46] In the case of National Park system units, commercial filming and/or audio recording requires a permit and liability insurance.[47] Still photography that uses models or props for the purpose of commercial advertising requires a permit and proof of insurance.[47][48]

If a photograph shows private property in such a manner that a viewer of the photograph can identify the owner of the property, the ASMP (American Society of Media Photographers, Inc.) recommends that a property release should be used if the photograph is to be used for advertising and/or commercial purposes.[49] According to the ASMP, a property release may be a requirement in such a situation.[49]

Other issues

Photographing accident scenes and law enforcement activities is usually legal.[39] At the same time, one must not hinder the operations of law enforcement, medical, emergency, or security personnel by filming.

Any filming with the intent of doing unlawful harm against a subject may be a violation of the law in itself.

 

[weebling1]

He should sue her for all of the $50 she has in the bank. Good luck collecting...

 

[scbundy]

You would be standing on private property, AND there is 'expectation of privacy' within your castle/home.

expectation of privacy is a legal term, look it up , and see where and where not it is applicable.

a public beach ..it is not.

Come on, it's still creepy as hell. Flying a camera equipped drone around a beach, please. Dude's just lucky she was the only one who attacked him

My brother was at the park last summer with his family, his little girl ran off to play and my brother turns around and see's some guy standing 2 feet from her taking a bunch of pictures. Was it legal, yup. Did my brother break the guy's arm and smash his equipment despite the fact that the police would do nothing to him, yup and yup.

You can go on and on about expectation of privacy and the right to take pictures all you want, he still deserves a 2x4 across the face. The kid should go get his porn off the internet like everyone else.

 

[Ducman69]

Just a bunch of terrible selfies all over the place.

Woman logic.

Paranoid of having her picture taken from 100 feet away... floods the internet with selfies.

 

[Parja]

Its not a drone if you have to control it.

That statement goes over the heads of so many.

 

[Ur_Mom]

Also, by your statement, you could stand inside your bedroom window, fully naked with the window open, as a bus full of children disembark and you'll be fine. This is actually not true, either.

Depends on who you are. If you're the undersheriff (now sheriff), you will get away with it. After multiple complaints, he was just asked to close the shades around that time of day. He ended up putting up a fence, but he was a nudist that liked to hang out around the house nude... And the bus full of kids did see it many times (which is what brought attention to it in the first place).

 

[Farkle]

If I were in his shoes, I would have brained the bitch hard and dealt with the social fallout of the "YOU DON'T HIT WOMEN" troop that puffs up whenever crap like that happens. Pretty good reason for CCW right there, multiple goons trying to get you on the ground to kick your teeth in or worse for something that is none of their business... There was no reason for that situation to escalate into a physical confrontation. I don't know if parentage is to blame here or not, but the sense of people doling out justice "OH I'LL TEACH YOU!!!" needs to be retired already.

Being a hobbyist photographer myself, I've had people approach me asking me to not take pictures of them before in public and grab at my Nikon. I even delete the photos involving people that aren't all grab-ass on my camera if they ask, but the people that are rude I'll get on them about harassment, coercion, conversion and theft (whenever applicable) begging them to call the police on me so I can file my own charges before it escalates any further.

 

[Fanattic]

Come on, it's still creepy as hell. Flying a camera equipped drone around a beach, please. Dude's just lucky she was the only one who attacked him

My brother was at the park last summer with his family, his little girl ran off to play and my brother turns around and see's some guy standing 2 feet from her taking a bunch of pictures. Was it legal, yup. Did my brother break the guy's arm and smash his equipment despite the fact that the police would do nothing to him, yup and yup.

You can go on and on about expectation of privacy and the right to take pictures all you want, he still deserves a 2x4 across the face. The kid should go get his porn off the internet like everyone else.

Did your brother enjoy prison and felony assault on his record?

 

[MrGuvernment]

How is flying a drone creepy, maybe he is interested in the scenery? just as photographers who take pictures of beaches and land scape?

perhaps he wanted an open space to practice with, what better place than a beach!

Man, some people are just so disconnected with the world.

Here there is a guy who has one of these and he did some video's, he now works for news stations doing fly overs for massive accidents, floods and other stuff, views you would other wise not get unless you have an expensive helicopter and crew..

 

[lcpiper]

Its not a drone if you have to control it. Fucking idiots.

Actually he is completely wrong.

 

[lcpiper]

1.
the male of the honeybee and other bees, stingless and making no honey. See illus. under bee.
2.
a. an unmanned aircraft or ship that can navigate autonomously, without human control or beyond line of sight: the GPS of a U.S. spy drone.
b. (loosely) any unmanned aircraft or ship that is guided remotely: a radio-controlled drone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot_AR.Drone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-9_Reaper

The General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper (formerly named Predator B) is an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) capable of remote controlled or autonomous flight operations, developed by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems (GA-ASI) primarily for the United States Air Force. UAVs are also referred to as drones.

The world changes and so do definitions.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

The supreme court has time and time again upheld that there is no expectation of privacy when in a public place.

If you are in a public place, (or anywhere visible from a public place) it is perfectly legal for a photographer to take your picture and use said picture however he or she pleases, with a a few notable exceptions:

1.) Can't use it for commerical/promotional purposes (this does not include selling photography as art); and
2.) (In most states) Can not be indecent/nudity, including (but not limited to) "up skirt" photos, and the like.
3.) Photos may not be of certain secret military installations.

Otherwise, if you are in a public place, or someone can see you from a public place, anything goes. It doesn't matter if the person is holding a camera, or if said camera is on a drone.


Where this gets tricky is where places which used to be private (like a back yard behind a big hedge/fence for instance) suddenly are visible from the air. Is the air considered a public place?

In an open, unenclosed yard (or through a window) visible from a public place, there is no expectation of privacy, but in a place that previously was private, but is now visible from the air, how is the law applied?

 

[kodan]

LOL Hope they throw the book at the dumb broad...
In Connecticut :

(b) Assault in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor and any person found guilty under subdivision (3) of subsection (a) of this section shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of one year which may not be suspended or reduced.

 

[Ducman69]

That being said, I would also have been aware of the sensitive issues around children, and wouldn't have intentionally taken pictures of children without their parents permission.

How would you even know what a photographer these days was shooting anyway? These lenses can take photos from 200 yards away with amazing detail, or it could have just been a scenery shot of a tourist taking a picture of the beach to send to friends and family back home.

Without evidence of foul play, you certainly can't kick it up to the notch of assault without giving the guy taking the shot a good reason to defend himself legally with whatever he has available... for your sake, hopefully you don't mind a .45ACP staring at you and then making you kiss the dirt with a knee in your back while waiting for the police to arrive.

Some things are worth fighting over, this aint that.

 

[Fanattic]

Of course not, no charges were filed, no complaint was made. But glad to hear you're a pedo as well. Go ahead and defend him some more.

2 sides to every story. You seem to have anger issues it might run in the family and may be part of the other side of the story we aren't hearing. Some guy standing close to a child and taking pictures does not make him a pedophile. Had it been a women would your brother had them same reaction?

For males in today's society smiling at kids playing and running on a playground instantly brands you as a creepy pedophile if you don't have a child with you or in the group. Is that right? Who doesn't enjoy the sound of a childs laughter or seeing care free children play. Why is it instantly pedophilia?

 

[Ducman69]

That's the thing, walking right up to someone's child and taking pictures of them. Not one word of "would you mind if I..." Clearly over the line.

That is certainly weird if it happened, but also seems rather unlikely.

An actual pedo I would imagine could afford the $300 for a 50x zoom Sony: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DSC-HX30...UTF8&qid=1402344339&sr=8-2&keywords=superzoom

With 50x, you can be crazy far away with a tripod, and crop the image to 90x digitally.

In any case, irrelevant as that's not what was happening here. Its just a dude enjoying the RC hobby responsibly and a crazy bitch over reacting.

 

[scbundy]

2 sides to every story. You seem to have anger issues it might run in the family and may be part of the other side of the story we aren't hearing. Some guy standing close to a child and taking pictures does not make him a pedophile. Had it been a women would your brother had them same reaction?

For males in today's society smiling at kids playing and running on a playground instantly brands you as a creepy pedophile if you don't have a child with you or in the group. Is that right? Who doesn't enjoy the sound of a childs laughter or seeing care free children play. Why is it instantly pedophilia?

Clearly you don't have a daughter.

 

[MrGoodbar]

I want to know the outcome. Hope she gets jail time and posts selfies of her new orange get up.

 

[kodan]

She stands to face a one year jail term IF she doesn't plead to a lesser crime.

 

[Fanattic]

Clearly you don't have a daughter.

Even if I did I wouldn't risk my family, my career, my freedom, by breaking possibly thousands of dollars of property and the mans arm. Had the man inappropriately touched my daughter sure but for being creepy I would not have broken his arm and risked everything I held dear.