kirbyrj
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Are those 3080's
hard to tell. looks like mixed cards
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Are those 3080's
koff 300k... koff.... flooded market... koff...
There will be a Super refresh before stock normalizes on these cards and Nvidia knows it lol.You still can’t get a card through auto notify unless you’re in some of the discords channels and eVGA still haven’t come close to filling their day 1 orders and step ups so yeah I’d say we’re pretty far from 300K
Because it proves they weren't intentionally withholding product to artificially inflate demand? Because that would be a shitty thing to do.I like how the lack of product discrediting the MLID article claim is somehow a win for team green.
Because it proves they weren't intentionally withholding product to artificially inflate demand? Because that would be a shitty thing to do.
Company not being shitty = win.
That's just good business sense. Margins do matter. No conspiracy needed. Kinda like how the magical 35K Tesla only existed on paper.I think they are more or less intentionally withholding "cheap" cards due to margins. E.G. you won't find as many FE cards available compared to previous FE generations.
Because it proves they weren't intentionally withholding product to artificially inflate demand? Because that would be a shitty thing to do.
Company not being shitty = win.
That's just good business sense. Margins do matter. No conspiracy needed. Kinda like how the magical 35K Tesla only existed on paper.
It actually exists, you just have to call and ask for it.That's just good business sense. Margins do matter. No conspiracy needed. Kinda like how the magical 35K Tesla only existed on paper.
I think it might be time to admit to ourselves that that was not accurate.Where is our 300K cards ?
He corrected that himself 3 or 4 weeks ago. You gotta keep up people!I think it might be time to admit to ourselves that that was not accurate.
Do you have a link? The last thing I saw was that he said late October / early November.He corrected that himself 3 or 4 weeks ago. You gotta keep up people!
Sorry, no I do not. He did greatly pull back from that in at least two pieces of followup content.Do you have a link? The last thing I saw was that he said late October / early November.
There is a dance that could occur over the long run, even if they make more money on selling at the moment a $700 card versus a partner how much and how many partner can sell card can influence how much Nvidia can charge them for the next chips and how much/many can they sell depend on how much Nvidia make them a competition in the selling market.Is there any evidence that Nvidia makes more money off a $899 partner card than they do a $699 one? Seems like they would just sell the parts at a set price, or do they get a cut of the partner's sales?
NVIDIA isn't selling the $699 cards anymore, the theory is that the $699 pricepoint is designed to artificially inflate the perceived value to the consumer via early reviews, and NVIDIA makes money on every single GPU sold so losing (or not making much) money on a handful of GPUs at an artificially low MSRP still makes them more money through increased demand for partner cards.It would be interesting to compare 30XX Founders Edition availability to 20XX series. I don't believe the conspiracy theories. The conspiracists posit that it's all part of a scheme set an artificially low price to make Nvidia more money, but Nvidia is the one selling $699 cards.
Is there any evidence that Nvidia makes more money off a $899 partner card than they do a $699 one? Seems like they would just sell the parts at a set price, or do they get a cut of the partner's sales?
People realize the $699 cards are the best value. Thus, they have the most demand. Seems like we're reaching a point where the most newsworthy stories are conspiracy theories.
It hasn't been in stock for a few weeks, but the same is true for the majority of 3080 models on the market.NVIDIA isn't selling the $699 cards anymore
No, literally, they aren't selling them anymore. https://www.techradar.com/news/nvid...unders-edition-stock-passes-baton-to-best-buyIt hasn't been in stock for a few weeks, but the same is true for the majority of 3080 models on the market.
Har har, Nvidia not selling them through their own store is not the same as the card being discontinued, which seems to be what you're trying to imply. It's well known Nvidia's online store was a disaster so they shut it down for the time being.No, literally, they aren't selling them anymore. https://www.techradar.com/news/nvid...unders-edition-stock-passes-baton-to-best-buy
Want to put money on if Best Buy gets any more of these after a few weeks?
Except it’s not just the cheap cards suffering from unobtanium. So that part of his claim is fudI think they are more or less intentionally withholding "cheap" cards due to margins. E.G. you won't find as many FE cards available compared to previous FE generations.
I would say his "stuff the channels" by the end of October is obviously incorrect, but what's the average price of the cards when they become available?
His point that $699 is a mirage is pretty spot on.
Except it’s not just the cheap cards suffering from unobtanium. So that part of his claim is fud
Where are you located? What stores have them?I've had access to dozens of 3080s here. We had 6 near me evga ftw3. Stock is appearing. Even quite a number of 3090s. Stock, not back order stuff. 3070s, 3080s, and 3090s. EVGA is in full gear now getting more cards out.
AMD is 100% screwed in the way that there is no way for it to fill the huge void that NVIDIA has left in the market. That said, I know that AMD has 10s of thousands more cards that NV has even sold up to now, so that is a good thing, but still no way for AMD to ever satiate the demand, especially with BF and Xmas buying season in Q4.Kinda wish Nvidia's plan did go through - feel like the AMD launch is going to be a blood bath with all of the GPU demand.
how exactly do you define much easier? I’ve been looking an all seem equally difficult.It is much easier relatively speaking to obtain a high-end card than a cheap card.