1) Wrong - I saw it on Thursday as part of a double feature starting at 3PM. Common courtesy to everyone else on the forums isn't all that hard.it's your own fault for
1 not seeing the movie sooner
2 going on a forum with a title which will produce discussions and arguments where 'spoiler' tags will never get used
so what you're openly admitting is that you and others in this thread are too fucking lazy to use the tag. Got it.Oh hey look at that you've confirmed my assertions. The media subforum is the perfect place for those that have not seen the movie to go.
News forum with a controversial title? Not so much.
You can move along now
That was one of the whiniest conservative SJW posts I've ever read....The worst thing though -- beyond even the extremely dialogue heavy shitofascript and characters like Rose who I really just wanted to die as soon as seeing them get shoehorned in for the China market -- is that the movie ends with the WORST villain of the series, an emo fucking pansy who wouldn't be worthy to apply as a fluffer for even Anakin's crybaby ass, anticlimactically DOING NOTHING EVIL.
I hated this shit movie so much, it officially made me a Star Wars fan for life. OF THE ORIGINAL, NON-DISNEY FILMS!
So much this. A lot of things people are complaining about are because they were not watching the actual movie: they were observing the movie through their lens of expectations.Oh please. Did you even see the fucking movie? His deception of Snoke was one of the best scenes in any of the Star Wars films.
You sound like people posting 'where was the Republic fleet?' when Episode 7 came out because they either missed the destruction scene or didn't even see the movie.
Maybe if people would pay attention and watch the movie instead of looking for reasons to be butthurt they'd enjoy movies more...
Force sensitives can pick up and throw massive objects, but can't form a thin bubble of air or pull themselves towards something in a weightless environment?The Force does not give you super powers. The Force does not make you a super hero from the Marvel universe.
That is right. The Force does not allow you to survive in hostile environments for the organic life form race you belong. Think of scuba diving. If they could just pick up with them an oxigen bubble then they would never need the devices which allowed them to breathe under water in Episode I and III.Force sensitives can pick up and throw massive objects, but can't form a thin bubble of air or pull themselves towards something in a weightless environment?
Leia was in zero-G. A simple force push/pull shouldn't have been any kind of problem.The Force augments your physical strengths and allows you to interact with things you can normally interact: solids, electricity, ground (long jumps). But does not allow you to invoke storms or manipulate gases and liquids because that is something you can't do even with a physically feasible volume for a standard human. And of course it does not allow you to fly. You can not attract or repel your self to an object by manipulating gravity. Leia coming back from space is then not allowed. Reminds me then why they needed masks in Episode IV when they were hiding in the mouth of a giant space-resistant animal.
Hey, guys, stop with the spoiler bullshit. You want to say something about the what happens at least try and warn usI haven't even seen it...so Kylo turns on Luke as Vader turned on Kenobi.....and then Ben went off to be a secluded hermit on HEY WAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT A MINUTE....THEY JUST *COPIED* THE SAME MOVIE DIDN'T THEY!
Vader was able to use the force (really his rage) to allow himself to breathe without the help of his suit. He is seen in the original movies doing as much. When he is sitting in his Pod thing without his helmet on. True Vader was not able to maintain this for extended periods of time, however, his ability to do this could be extrapolated upon.That is right. The Force does not allow you to survive in hostile environments for the organic life form race you belong. Think of scuba diving. If they could just pick up with them an oxigen bubble then they would never need the devices which allowed them to breathe under water in Episode I and III.
As I said, I wouldn't have had a problem with this if she had a chance to shield herself ahead of time and wasn't seen frozen in space, unconcious at the very least. Her propelling herself with the Force isn't the problem with that scene. It's being frozen and the coming back to life because: "reasons."Force sensitives can pick up and throw massive objects, but can't form a thin bubble of air or pull themselves towards something in a weightless environment?
There was a moment to prepare. We see several cuts back and forth between the two characters with her thinking and then you see her brace before the impact. Not enough time to clear the bridge, but enough to do what she did. I didn't think she was completely frozen, I thought it was frost in her air bubble. Once the shock of being sucked out wore off she pulled herself in.As I said, I wouldn't have had a problem with this if she had a chance to shield herself ahead of time and wasn't seen frozen in space, unconcious at the very least. Her propelling herself with the Force isn't the problem with that scene. It's being frozen and the coming back to life because: "reasons."
I'm not sure if you get what Science Fiction is all about. Maybe you do, I'm just not sure so I'll lay this out anyway and you can decide for yourself if the shoe fits.Star Wars is okay but it's science fiction in name only. Basically magic in space.
Now it's being designed by committee into cookie cutter money printing crap.
Can we please get something that isn't insulting to the audience and is actually different?
I don't hate the franchise. I just think it's completely overrated.
Literally any Star Trek series has more hours of content than all of the Star Wars movies combined. And yet literally every movie has fans creaming their pants. I don't get it.
Force Healing is a thing and scientifically the human body can survive in space for 15 to 30 seconds.As I said, I wouldn't have had a problem with this if she had a chance to shield herself ahead of time and wasn't seen frozen in space, unconcious at the very least. Her propelling herself with the Force isn't the problem with that scene. It's being frozen and the coming back to life because: "reasons."
he was a hermit because he turned on Kylo Luke puled out his saber on his nephew and Ben defended himself and turned to the dark-side. Luke was ashamed of his actions.** more Last Jedi spoilers***
they really ruined the Luke Skywalker character...the real Luke from the original trilogy would never become a hermit, lose hope and shut himself off from the world because Kylo turned on him...if anything that would only make him more determined to fight them...at least with Yoda it made sense why he went into exile- he was waiting for Anakin's son to grow up so he could train him to defeat Vader and the Emperor...with Luke the reasons are completely selfish
I know Force healing is a thing. I know that space won't instantly kill you. However, she was out there with floating debris long enough to have ice crystals all over her. She seemed to be out for more than 30 seconds. The same concept and scene might have worked better, if ti was handled a little differently.Force Healing is a thing and scientifically the human body can survive in space for 15 to 30 seconds.
Anyways can't believe people are thinking about it that deeply for a series that has space wizards shooting lightning from their hands.
FTFYHere, we see him give up after one failure which nearly costs him his soul, costs the galaxy all the remaining Jedi, cost the Rebellion more defeats and many many more lives lost, and leaves a big fucking empty hole where his heart used to be so he's somewhat entitled to his own feelings even in spite of viewers thinking otherwise. Vastly different, absolutely without question but quite understandable at the same time.
Damn you wrote ALL that but said very little. Like thanks for explaining what Scifi is about. The thing is I reject your premise right at the door. Science Fiction can be about exploring the human condition sure. But it's not always the case. Your assertion that Science Fiction isn't, and never really was, about science fiction or the future is just blatantly wrong. It can be both, neither, or one or the other, plus many other things. Stop pigeon holing the genre into your own personal definition.I sure if you get what Science Fiction is all about. Maybe you do, I'm just not sure so I'll lay this out anyway and you can decide for yourself if the shoe fits.
Science Fiction was originally only written, books. What the science fiction venue provides is a vehicle that a writer can use that allows him the freedom to address real world issues in a make believe world, so that people can't claim "it's impossible" ... because it's fictional.
For instance, look at the first Star Trek series with William Shatner as Kirk. Look at some of the episodes, two guys that hate each other because one is black on the left side of his face and the other is black on the right side. They are addressing racial bigotry and hate and how stupid it is.
See, if you get into any racial debate today, you have to drag along and carry a few thousand years of history that gets thrown into your face by both sides just in order to try and get to a simple point, that we need to start treating each other better. Or one side says that we must make up for past wrongs by forcing a level field, it's not enough to just start treating everyone the same. But you can't talk about the basic issue without all the rest thrown in, unless you use science fiction in order to isolate and focus on your issue.
Science Fiction isn't, and never really was, about science or the future.
But even leaving this aside, there is a fundamental difference between Star Trek and Star Wars, for the TV series, they continue with an approach that is more like the real purpose of science fiction, bringing up issues, social issues, issues about risking a planet's future, etc. Things that you can find relevant to today's issues on Earth. Star Wars is just a story, a great story in a fast universe, but a big exciting story all the same.
So I agree that Star Wars isn't so much science fiction, but I think I disagree for a different reason.