You edited your post with a smiley after I quoted you so I now assume you were joking.
It's best to always assume I'm joking, except when I'm not . In future posts I'll use more smilies
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You edited your post with a smiley after I quoted you so I now assume you were joking.
i still didnt watched, i think i'll probably wait to watch at home or something. anyway, did those dirty flea infested tree hugging jedy hippie motherfuckers managed to screw everything up in this one too? and then like in previous movies, then they also had to flee and hide and pretend that nothing happened because they actually had no idea at all of what they were doing? while the universe populace is left for all the looting murder and rape that followed the outcome of their brilliant ideas?
Not really. But it does just plain suck. I mean fucking sucks. And this coming from a guy with a black alfa 4C who has 'SITH' has his license tag.
Serious question: SPOILER
What were the two characters in charge of the ship under Leia called? One was definitely Vice Admiral Holdo but who was the other?
Just didn't really go anywhere after two and a half hours.
Yes it did, I do not know how to put things behind a Spoiler so SPOILER (lite)
That I noticed:
4 Named characters dead, 2 of them big ones, 2 little.
Multiple new characters introduced
Rei is a ____ now
The rebels are crippled
The order got spanked
All the rebels are together at the end.
I mean, maybe you didn't like where it went, but it went places.
Yes it did, I do not know how to put things behind a Spoiler so SPOILER (lite)
1. Big whoop!
2. Is she? She can move rocks and learnt that in 30 minutes.
3. The rebels are always crippled.
4. The order always gets spanked but seems to have endless resources so...
5. Yes just fewer of them and fewer ships.
We are right back at the end of ESB effectively.
So no real change. The movie was a lot of dancing about to distract from the fact not much actually happened of any real substance. But it's just a Star Wars movie so I didnt expect too much.
However expect another huge mega weapon to defeat in Episode IX.
Ugh, I finally watched The Last Jedi. Not a fan. Spoilers Below.
I actually liked TFA. I enjoyed the new cast and the new stories that were being set up. The only thing I didn't really like about TFA is Kylo Ren becoming too monotonous after killing his dad at point blank range. I thought there was potential for him to possibly become a good guy over the course of the trilogy, but killing his own dad like that pretty much made him irredeemable without convoluted plot elements. I can forgive the writers for that though, and the obnoxious killing of Han Solo itself, knowing how much Harrison Ford hates acting now and didn't even want to be in the movie at all. They pretty much had to kill Han off somehow. Everything else about TFA set up so much potential for a good trilogy...
...and TLJ ruined it all. Every character seemed to go in a totally different direction from what was setup in TFA, the original trilogy, or both. Luke and Leia were made into jokes, to the point of actually being embarrassingly badly written compared to their potential and the direction their characters were going in the original series.
Luke. The idea that people have been waiting 34 years to see Luke again and all they got was this... wow. He's just a bitchy old man now that doesn't have even a shred of optimism anymore unlike his character in the original series. I get that this can be justified, but that doesn't matter. Did anyone really go into this movie wanting to see Luke like this? I doubt it. Even with the stupid plot elements, who the fuck thought it was a good idea to actually kill Luke off in the end? They could have at least found a way to give him a part in the 3rd movie that made his pathetic showing in the 2nd more explainable.
Leia... I don't think that she should have been in any of the new movies honestly. She (Carrie Fisher) obviously just had a bit too much fun with her life after the original trilogy. She reminds me of Karen Allen in the 2008 Indiana Jones movie, showing the effects of so many drugs over the years it was almost comical. It's like it's not even the same person anymore. At least this part can't be blamed on bad writing, but the superwoman flying through space scene certainly can... Really I was hoping that her character was simply going to die when she got sucked out into space.
Kylo Ren & Rey. I don't really understand how they can keep flip-flopping back and forth with Kylo Ren being a good guy or bad guy. Rey flip-flopped back and forth way too easily in regards to how she felt about Kylo Ren depending on what the plot happened to need at that moment, too easily forgetting about how he killed Han Solo. I'm also not sure how Kylo Ren flip-flops back and forth between being weaker than an untrained girl in the force and strong enough to trick a sith lord. Rey herself seems just a bit too boring, just setup to be a stereotypical female hero.
Poe & Finn. These two had so much potential in TFA, but they just became boring stereotypical characters in TLJ.
Chewbacca, C3PO, R2D2. They had such a small presence in this movie and even the whole trilogy so far, what is the point of even including them in the trilogy at all?
Was there a single person besides the director himself that actually watched the battle scenes before the movie was released? So many plot holes in this movie, especially in the battle scenes, the only real way to watch this movie is to get drunk and stoned first so that you're not even really thinking about how what you are watching contradicts what you've already seen and also often contradicts basic physics.
I'm not really sure if age is a factor for me like many have said. The original trilogy was made before I was born, but I enjoyed watching them on Laserdisc as I grew up. I enjoyed the Prequel Trilogy quite a bit; the 2nd and 3rd more than the 1st, but I liked them all. I was 13, 17, and 20 for those movies so maybe still a bit of a kid. Maybe my current age (33) had something to do with why I didn't like TLJ, but I was already 31 when TFA came out and I liked that movie plenty.
I don't think that it realistically works having each movie of a trilogy going in a different direction with different writers, etc. For something like a Trilogy, the story of the 3rd movie should already be completely written before they even begin to film the 1st movie.
The bombers thing is stupidly easy to explain.Are we still complaining about the bombers thing? Really? Is it possible that the mechanism that held them in the bomber also applied a downward force when they were released? Magnetic propulsion, possibly? OR even some variety of physical? Clearly that's too advanced for this timeline.
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The bombs are officially electro-magneticWhat was said here makes a lot of sense. (Also we have proof of gravity inside the ship during the scene.)
Holdo's Maneuver was some epic shit, yo.
Bombs don't technically "drop" in microgravity, but are impelled from their racks by sequenced electromagnetic plates in the clip. The bombs are then drawn magnetically to their unfortunate targets.
The bombs are officially electro-magnetic
The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary
and while "Holdo's Maneuver" was epic and well sequenced/directed ... it royally messes with the canon because essentially WTF now and WTF not uses IN THE OTHER FSCKING FILMS! and this is essentially my issue with Disney and StarWars ... sure scrap EU, sure add new stuff but the entire FU to continuity just makes it harder for bad story. 1hour of TLJ could have been cut and the film would not have been any different
Well there ya go. That works too.The bombs are officially electro-magnetic
The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary
and while "Holdo's Maneuver" was epic and well sequenced/directed ... it royally messes with the canon because essentially WTF now and WTF not uses IN THE OTHER FSCKING FILMS! and this is essentially my issue with Disney and StarWars ... sure scrap EU, sure add new stuff but the entire FU to continuity just makes it harder for bad story. 1hour of TLJ could have been cut and the film would not have been any different
They could be linked to all go off the second one of them does or simply be super unstable and one small shockwave would cause a chain reaction. I would assume that was the case simply based on how they seemed to self destruct the second something pierced the bomber's hulls.I was a little sad the bombers weren't Y wings with torpedoes.... these are a bit too literal of bombers. Low velocity bombs aren't generally what you penetrate armor with. Nevermind when the first goes off it'd blow the others into space.
and while "Holdo's Maneuver" was epic and well sequenced/directed ... it royally messes with the canon because essentially WTF now and WTF not uses IN THE OTHER FSCKING FILMS! and this is essentially my issue with Disney and StarWars ... sure scrap EU, sure add new stuff but the entire FU to continuity just makes it harder for bad story. 1hour of TLJ could have been cut and the film would not have been any different
and while "Holdo's Maneuver" was epic and well sequenced/directed ... it royally messes with the canon because essentially WTF now and WTF not uses IN THE OTHER FSCKING FILMS! and this is essentially my issue with Disney and StarWars ... sure scrap EU, sure add new stuff but the entire FU to continuity just makes it harder for bad story. 1hour of TLJ could have been cut and the film would not have been any different
and while "Holdo's Maneuver" was epic and well sequenced/directed ... it royally messes with the canon because essentially WTF now and WTF not uses IN THE OTHER FSCKING FILMS! and this is essentially my issue...
So the reality is you just don't like the direction, its OK to not like something.
no sh*t... now if that was what people were complaining about I would agree.It's like people have never watched a Star Wars movie with some of the complaints over plot themes in LJ. It really shouldn't be a surprise ... I mean really ... that fall and redemption are key themes, they have been throughout the entirety of the Star Wars franchise. Be it Darth Vader, Lando, Solo, Finn, etc, I mean its a REALLY common theme in these movies ... so it really shouldn't come as a surprise that we see this theme continued with Luke and Kylo in this latest film.
no sh*t... now if that was what people were complaining about I would agree.
What about Leia & Holdo's as the evacuation of the cruiser was going on talking about Poe "I like him, so do I" He fscking caused a mutiny... you chuck him in the brig not go "oh that little scamp"
What about the entire "free the alien racers" substory that ate soo much of the time but actually did nothing to the overall story, the FFFFUUU to continuity, the Jedi are whiny bitches.
That is a large part of what people are complaining about ... OH NOES Luke is acting exactly like Yoda did on Dagobah.. "Woah (/Keanu Reeves) my mind is blown there was no precedent for that."no sh*t... now if that was what people were complaining about I would agree.
What about Leia & Holdo's as the evacuation of the cruiser was going on talking about Poe "I like him, so do I" He fscking caused a mutiny... you chuck him in the brig not go "oh that little scamp"
What about the entire "free the alien racers" substory that ate soo much of the time but actually did nothing to the overall story, the FFFFUUU to continuity, the Jedi are whiny bitches.
Enough cant be said about how much Rian destroyed the Skywalker Legacy.
The irony of that statement was the jedi prophecy of "a chosen one will bring balance to the force" meant Anakin had to kill almost all the jedi... Thousands of jedi to two sith... Knocking the jedi downto 2 balanced it (sideous+Vader & Kenobi+yoda) and thus forfilling their own prophecyGuess what? Fuck the Skywalker Legacy.
The Skywalkers are the reason the Jedi were destroyed, and the fucking Empire took over in the first place.
They don't deserve a Legacy. Fuck the Skywalkers.
Long Live the legacy of Rey and her "nobody" parentage!
The irony of that statement was the jedi prophecy of "a chosen one will bring balance to the force" meant Anakin had to kill almost all the jedi... Thousands of jedi to two sith... Knocking the jedi downto 2 balanced it (sideous+Vader & Kenobi+yoda) and thus forfilling their own prophecy
Killing off the Skywalker's was also needed and balance by embracing both side was required
Guess what? Fuck the Skywalker Legacy.
The Skywalkers are the reason the Jedi were destroyed, and the fucking Empire took over in the first place.
They don't deserve a Legacy. Fuck the Skywalkers.
The Jedi always seem to think that balance means no Sith.
All major conflicts in the SW universe seem to trace back to force sensitives going after each other.
I wonder if Kylo Ren hates the force itself and his actions are ultimately an attempt to subvert it's influence on the galaxy, a la Kreia from KOTOR. His armour was clearly inspired by Revan and they established that there's a force connection between him and Rey in this movie, like I suspected.
In general, I think that's true. In KOTOR, KOTOR 2, and Star Wars: The Old Republic this holds true. Most of the EU novels and all the main movies definitely show this is the case. I don't think Kylo hates the force, I think his mancrush on his grand daddy has him following in his foot steps. After he perceived Luke going after him, I think he saw no other way to be. It was either follow Luke or Vader, and he chose the latter, or rather felt forced into it.