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TF2 scout update!

Monkey God said:
I hate the kukri, it doesn't do enough damage, or doesn't crit or enough or something
I was playing sniper last night and beating people with it 3-4 times and they'd turn around and whack me once and it was over
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Sniper isn't supposed to be able to defend himself well at close range.
 
Hey guys, so now that its being used....What happens to the baseball once it hits someone? Does it just bounce off and hit the ground then disappear after a bit or does the scout have to go and pick it back up?

As well, I still think that since they implemented the baseball along with the bat....everyone else should be able to get a glove to have a chance at catching the ball. Add that to my first sentence, in that, the Scout only gets ONE ball and has to go and pick it back up to use it again....if its caught by someone else, he looses that ability till either the round ends or he dies.

Another question......Can the ball ricochet off a wall or something and hit someone and still have an effect?

I cant play atm cause of squirly things going on when I do play, otherwise Id just find out for myself....
 
Dallows said:
I'll be glad if it gets nerfed. It's a retarded addition to an already balanced class.
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Most people don't realize that it's a much larger sacrifice and reward than other unlocks. Losing the double jump is huge, so whatever it gives better be huge in return.
 
wow, fuck that sandman. makes the game not fun, especially right now when theres teams of 20 scouts spamming that garbage at you.
 
Pipo said:
wow, fuck that sandman. makes the game not fun, especially right now when theres teams of 20 scouts spamming that garbage at you.
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I don't mind the Sandman but have a stun effect where you can't do anything is a bit extreme. For balance sake, I think it'd be better if damage taken clears the stun.
 
I tried going to an acheivement server but they all sucked, and then most of the servers disappeared.
 
i didn't even bother with an achievement server, I used that tool that allows you get milestones/unlocks just by clickity click
 
so i haven't reinstalled TF2, but can someone answer this question:

Does the force o' nature allow you to have a "rocket jump" type ability? The scout update says that if you're already airborne and you fire, you'll be propelled through the air.

What does that mean?
 
IceWeasel said:
so i haven't reinstalled TF2, but can someone answer this question:

Does the force o' nature allow you to have a "rocket jump" type ability? The scout update says that if you're already airborne and you fire, you'll be propelled through the air.

What does that mean?
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it *barely* nudges the scout upward ... i'd say the double jump goes way, way higher....
 
WhiteZero said:
Achievements are stored on the local computer, not at VALVe. No one who has used an achievement unlocker proggie has gotten baned/suspended.
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Do you mean the achievements are achieved and then uploaded to valve, or what? i think your wrong because if you format your computer and install tf2 your achievements are back, plus you can see achievements online.
 
Bought TF2 off Steam for £6.99. Great price

I must confess I've played very few multiplayer games but this looks like a lot of fun.

I'm gonna get battered constantly but soon my superior skills will tell, or maybe not :D

Hopefully there will be an influx of noobs with this great deal so I don't feel like a total tit

I'll be playing as Deckard_2019
 
Gabe3 said:
valve cant stop it, it's still working since um, unlocks came out.
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I'm just telling you what I heard. It would be foolish to think they don't monitor achievements and programs that would bypass their unlocking.
 
Dallows said:
I'm just telling you what I heard. It would be foolish to think they don't monitor achievements and programs that would bypass their unlocking.
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Maybe

I played last night for an hour or so.

Overall I didn't find the scout changes too annoying, other than when I was playing a heavy, and scouts kept baseball'in me and then took their sweet time killing me while I could sit there and do nothing. Yeah, thats fun, for them.

Stunlocks are lame, whether its WoW, TF2 or anything.
 
I'm just waiting until they give Demomen an atomic bomb or the Redeemer.
 
krameriffic said:
Most people don't realize that it's a much larger sacrifice and reward than other unlocks. Losing the double jump is huge, so whatever it gives better be huge in return.
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You can still double jump though. :)

Running along, running along, jump, aim down, shoot the new scattergun, and it gives you another "jump".
 
Gott said:
Whatever happened to just playing for fun?
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nothing.... people just dont want to grind for achievements.... especially since they are a pain in the ass to unlock, and have ridiculous requirements...

i play scout most of the time on non-PL/CP maps and i definitely dont want to have to grind achievements for days in order to get the new weapons....

much more *fun* with the unlocker....
 
Monkey God said:
yep, on map with alot of sentries, you need ubers to get those sentries down, and that is now alot harder.
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Which (God-forbid) implies that you'll need a bit more teamwork to get past those sentries (and the inevitable Sandman-wielding Scouts) ...
 
This update is complete crap, imo. And I liked playing scout.

The only possible upside is that eventually more players will realize how retarded instant respawn is.
 
JaYp146 said:
Which (God-forbid) implies that you'll need a bit more teamwork to get past those sentries (and the inevitable Sandman-wielding Scouts) ...
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teamwork? you ever play in a public server?

its hard enough to get any medics at all, now when you do, your uber is rendered useless
 
Monkey God said:
teamwork? you ever play in a public server?

its hard enough to get any medics at all, now when you do, your uber is rendered useless
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Luckily the server I play on has quite a few regulars (32 person server where more than half of them are regulars) so rarely do I see that happen. But naturally, it happens a few times.
 
brucedeluxe169 said:
nothing.... people just dont want to grind for achievements.... especially since they are a pain in the ass to unlock, and have ridiculous requirements...

i play scout most of the time on non-PL/CP maps and i definitely dont want to have to grind achievements for days in order to get the new weapons....

much more *fun* with the unlocker....
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just to add to this. if valve stopped being retarded and released all the class unlocks at the same time, things would be better, much better. instead we have 2/3 of the team as scout. therefor i wish more people would use the unlock program, that way people could try out the unlocks for a couple days and be back to playing whatever class they normally play.

anyway, i like the new unlocks, much better then the heavy's unlocks which i was disappointed with. everything has a good purpose, soda drink can distract the sentry so someone can take it down(which promotes teamwork) or you can try killing the engy with his own gun(not easy). The baseball should not stun ubers, i wouldn't be surprised if valve fixed this, if they are going to use the word invulnerable, then that means what it should. stunning and killing medics is awesome, most medics don't move around enough while they are healing so it's pretty easy. I havn't found a way to kill the heavy, any recommendations? double shotgun, stun, then bat to death or what? Also, if the baseball hits someones head, you can get the ball back, but if it hits another part of the body you cant get the ball back till it recharges... is this correct? And the force-o-nature is nearly as good as a double jump.
 
Riftsaw said:
Is this any different from when pyros got airblast though?
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You have to admit that the uber isn't what it used to be. People used to run in terror from an uber, now you can blow them around and stun them. Now that counters exist it's a less useful tool.
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
You have to admit that the uber isn't what it used to be. People used to run in terror from an uber, now you can blow them around and stun them. Now that counters exist it's a less useful tool.
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yup... valve continues to dumb down TF2, especially when it comes to skill separation.....
 
Riftsaw said:
Is this any different from when pyros got airblast though?
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airblast pushes, but it doesn't stun. a pyro can air blast me all he wants as an uberd demo, and as long as I am within range of a sentry ill still drop some stickies on it. I may not be able to get 2 sentries in one uber, ill get at least one.

if youre stunned, you cant do *anything*
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
You have to admit that the uber isn't what it used to be. People used to run in terror from an uber, now you can blow them around and stun them. Now that counters exist it's a less useful tool.
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Naw just means you need to use more at once! Thats what the ubersaw and unlucky spies are for!

Or you could send in a spy and use the uber as a decoy. The spy could backstab/sap combo the engineer and then sneak up on the guys hassling the uber.

Requires a lot more coordination than just sending ubers in from different directions though.
 
Riftsaw said:
Naw just means you need to use more at once! Thats what the ubersaw and unlucky spies are for!

Or you could send in a spy and use the uber as a decoy. The spy could backstab/sap combo the engineer and then sneak up on the guys hassling the uber.

Requires a lot more coordination than just sending ubers in from different directions though.
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3rd option..

Ubered spy ftw! :eek:
 
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