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Teh Uber L33t Aqua-Computer Thread :)

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Okay refresh my memory about the USB thing. Is pin 1 (left pin looking from back of unit) hot or ground?
 
BTW, anyone notice that the German A-C guys seem to take their Star Wars movies quite seriously over there? I noticed all the mods and Gods over there are now Darth's, Fett's, or Jedi's. ;) ;)
 
I have both plastic and metal elbows. I like the way the plastic looks a little better BUT, I feel a little more secure with the metal ones. Looking at the pic below and in person you can see that the tubing goes in a "wee bit" more with the metal fittings. I am using this elbow as a point of junction between my two return lines from both loops to return to the Aquajet. See the second pic. Again, I just feel a lillte more secure with the deeper metal fitting.

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Top Nurse said:
Okay refresh my memory about the USB thing. Is pin 1 (left pin looking from back of unit) hot or ground?

Pin 1 is hot (+5v). Take a look at your A8N-SLI Deluxe user guide on page 2-24. There is a good diagram there.
 
Top Nurse said:
BTW, anyone notice that the German A-C guys seem to take their Star Wars movies quite seriously over there? I noticed all the mods and Gods over there are now Darth's, Fett's, or Jedi's. ;) ;)
Hehe :rolleyes:

Greetings from Shogga Fett :D
 
Does the Zalman reservator works w/ the Aqua water block (CPU & GPU)? Has anyone done it w/ some pic. perhaps?

If so, what would be a kit consists of?

Also, I was at aqua web site, how can their GPU water block be big enough to cover the surface of a FX4400 GPU?
 
Happy Hopping said:
Does the Zalman reservator works w/ the Aqua water block (CPU & GPU)? Has anyone done it w/ some pic. perhaps?

If so, what would be a kit consists of?

Also, I was at aqua web site, how can their GPU water block be big enough to cover the surface of a FX4400 GPU?

Funny you should ask about the Zalman Reserator right now. I was just discussing with Wes at Sharka Corp a couple of days ago about how much better we thought the Reserator would work with some Aqua Computer blocks and some mods to the Reserator itself. Have you ever seen a Cuplex Evo cooler that is blue? Looks almost the same color as Zalman Blue! And the Blue color Aquatube's also match the Reserator very well. Personally I think anyone who owns a Reserator might want to give serious consideration to contacting Wes about getting an AquaBay AT and an Aquatube :cool: I think Sharka will have such a kit out on their website very soon :D

The GPU cooler (aka TwinPlex) is smaller than the MB cooler's (Cuplex, Cuplex XT, Evo, and Pro) though they look the same in the pics. However, I suppose that you could use a Twinplex in cooling some of the older CPU's. Don't know as I haven't tried. :)
 
ShoNuff said:
Pin 1 is hot (+5v). Take a look at your A8N-SLI Deluxe user guide on page 2-24. There is a good diagram there.

Yeah I think that is the problem! That sounds normal for all MB's I have ever seen, but the A-C Aquaero pin assignment is ass backwards. :rolleyes: The Aquaero manual says that Pin 1 & 2 are both ground, Pin 3 = Data +, Pin 4 = Data -, and Pin 5 = Power. :(

The manual says that if you hook it up backwards to the Aquaero it is possible to let the magic smoke outta your MB or the Aquaero! I seem to recall that was what R1ckCa1n did with his....so maybe he fried something on the Aquaero board?

Number one rule that I have is RTFM before hooking anything up! However, I think it was poor on Aqua Computer's side of the fence to do something like that as it was totally against all USB standards. At the very least they could have showed Pin 1 as being on the right side of the USB connector. I wonder how many smoked Aquaero's there have been over this same issue???
 
Is the Aquaero still worth it's tag even if I won't use an Aquastream?
I'm just looking for some good opinions....
Thanks
 
Top Nurse said:
Funny you should ask about the Zalman Reserator right now. I was just discussing with Wes at Sharka Corp a couple of days ago about how much better we thought the Reserator would work with some Aqua Computer blocks and some mods to the Reserator itself. Have you ever seen a Cuplex Evo cooler that is blue? Looks almost the same color as Zalman Blue! And the Blue color Aquatube's also match the Reserator very well. Personally I think anyone who owns a Reserator might want to give serious consideration to contacting Wes about getting an AquaBay AT and an Aquatube

But would the diameter of the tube & the fitting be the same btwn. Aqua CPU cooler,. GPU cooler vs. Zalman tubing?

And while I'm at it, has anyone uses these water cooling tubing and it leaks? How often does that happens?
 
CAD OC'er said:
Is the Aquaero still worth it's tag even if I won't use an Aquastream?
I'm just looking for some good opinions....
Thanks

You would probably know what I would say so I will leave it to others to tell you their opinion. ;)
 
Happy Hopping said:
But would the diameter of the tube & the fitting be the same btwn. Aqua CPU cooler,. GPU cooler vs. Zalman tubing?

And while I'm at it, has anyone uses these water cooling tubing and it leaks? How often does that happens?

The tubing diameter is something Wes is working on right now (actually he's fishing in the Sierra Mountains ATM) so give him a call next week and ask him yourself :)

If your speaking of Plug & Cool tubing connectors then I would say that it might leak if you don't follow some simple instructions and I mean simple! When they are installed properly they DO NOT LEAK.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Perfect!!! Post the results!

Hot days like today are the reason I have AC in my house.

Well I live about 50 yards from the Pacific Ocean so I have never invested in AC before, but know that I got A-C in my computer perhaps I should be a bit cooler and get it. :cool:

Okay first part of the story ;)

Got the Aquaero hooked up to my A7N8X-Dlx board and made sure that I wired the USB cable ass backwards on the Aquaero side. That means that pin 1 is = to ground :rolleyes:

So then I proceed to connect power and turn my beast on. The computer won't even boot! It sits there and sounds and looks like it is stuttering of all things! Pull plug and recheck everything. Everything looks good so try again and the same damn problem! So then I am thinking perhaps Aqua Computer should quit buying their USB cables from China :dark thoughts:

So I go find my multi-meter and check to make sure that the USB cable doesn't have any broken wires or shorts and all is good here. So I check the voltages coming off the MB and they are just what they are supposed to be. I go back and recheck that everything is exactly the way it is supposed to be and even switched to a different USB header and moved the power cable to another set of wires. Turn computer on and the same happy horseshit!!!

So I go grab my Aquaero manual, find my Asus MB manual, get something cool to drink, and go sit outside in the cool night air. After becoming more socially acceptable in my demeanor I venture back into the house and decide it is time to do some investigating. So I very carefully check all the MB jumpers to make sure everything is peachy. Everything still looks peachy so I start it up again and still the SAME BS!!!

Okay now I'm doing the process of elimination and hook it up without the USB cable attached to the Aquaero and it boots just fine though now my Raid 0 array seems screwed. I get that problem fixed and the Aquaero now shows it as being a firmware version 3.99D. Okay so the problem has to be in the USB header somewhere right?

As it turns out the USB header was set for +5 volts. I reset the jumper to +5 VSB and hook everything up with the USB cable and viola with a *poof* the computer boots and the Aquaero boots and NO problems. YEAH !!!!

So now I am going to try the firmware update so I will probably post back tomorrow with the results. :D
 
mashie said:
It started about a year after the installation. I have the UV reactive blue tube now. We will see in a year if it is better.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mail from Aqua Computer
Hello,

thanks for the mail and sorry for your problems.
The leakage is caused by the tubbing you used. The glas-clear tube is very hard and this causes the problems.

I would like to send you some of our new tubing which is much much better.

Please try this - you'll have no problems.


Best Regards,

Stephan Wille

does anyone else currently have this problem?
 
Happy Hopping said:
does anyone else currently have this problem?

Have no idea and I don't no anyone else either. Can you please post the complete original letter or reference a link so we can see what it was all about? Please have Mashie post here as he is a moderator on the [H]ardForum and the letter appears to be addressed to him.
 
Sib said:
No fair your CM Stacker looks prettier then mine.

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ON the Right side, next to the word patent pending, what is that water block cooling? Clearly it is not a CPU.

As well, for a unit like this pic., if you have water cooling for the above, would you still need the cooling fan for the overall system, presumably the cooling fan cools the hard drive, cd-rom, dvd drive, MB, etc.
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Good idea.... Lets hope the mods agree.

WARNING TO BUYERS

After a few very heated posts (pages of posts to be honest) on the SNT-systems forum regarding the lack of response to customers asking for credit on product never shipped, the entire SNT store and forum is now broken. I don't know if this is a sign of things to come for SNT or if the server simply crashed. edit - the site is up with no response from Dan over the issues.

What is came down to is a few customers got tired of waiting upwards of three months for product already paid for but never delivered. With repeated requests for re-payment on product never shipped, they were getting either no answer or just lip service. With two customers asking for almost $2,000.00 in payment I assume Dan can not come up with the money. Dan has had almost three weeks to address the HUGE concern customers have over his ability to respond and provide services/product paid for in advance.

With all of this happening, I can not recommend anyone place an order with SNT until the level of service is up to what we customers expect. In the meanwhile, www.sharkacorp.com is not only stocking product, but ordering on a regular basis. Since I have not only ordered and received product from sharka as well as personally know Wes, I must say they are the only US etailer to offer Aqua Computer products.


if you bought it via credit card, as long as you haven't receice it, just say to your cr. card co. that you mail order it, but still didn't receive it. you'll get your cr. back.

don't tell them it was a deposit , just say it's a mail order.
 
Happy Hopping said:
if you bought it via credit card, as long as you haven't receice it, just say to your cr. card co. that you mail order it, but still didn't receive it. you'll get your cr. back.

don't tell them it was a deposit , just say it's a mail order.

That would work nicely IF SNT took credit cards, which they didn't. They only took PayPal which for a lot of people was taken out of their bank accounts. So that means no money to get back unless they want to go to court as the bank looks upon it as a simple check or money transfer deal.
 
Happy Hopping said:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1027174964&highlight=stephan+wille#post1027174964

I just start reading this thread. It's on page 49 of this very same thread.

Shit dude! That was about 2,000 posts ago, but now I do remember it myself. A-C was using some clear PUR tubing that combined with some fluid product that made the tube gummy I believe. Not absolutely sure about that so just PM Mashie and ask him yourself. I haven't heard of it besides that one post so I don't know what to say. :)
 
Happy Hopping said:
ON the Right side, next to the word patent pending, what is that water block cooling? Clearly it is not a CPU.

As well, for a unit like this pic., if you have water cooling for the above, would you still need the cooling fan for the overall system, presumably the cooling fan cools the hard drive, cd-rom, dvd drive, MB, etc.

That is the North Bridge cooler. As far as fans go that depends on how ingenious you are with where you put your radiator fan(s). You still have to blow air through the sytem somehow to cool the other stuff.

BTW, welcome to our Aqua Computer thread :D and congrats on becoming a Gawd!
 
Well do you want the long version or the short version?

Good night!

Added: Okay that wasn't very nice was it ;) I couldn't sleep till I told ya :D I have O.S. 2.03 VFD on firmware 4.05E currently running on my Aquaero. The AquaSuite version Beta 4.1 is running as well as I can tell. I don't have anything hooked up to it as I just hooked it up to this computer to flash it for you. When I shut down tonight it goes in my V2000B that I am still building. However, it does readout in English on the display.

A quick tip though! Check out my previous post about the Asus settings on the MB about the USB power being set at +5 VSB and see if it changes anything. Also when I was at Sharka Friday afternoon there was only 1 Aquaero left in stock and it may have sold over the weekend. So make sure you talk to Wes about any warranty exchanges you can talk him out of ASAP. I figure if he sells that one it will be at least 10 days before anymore show up here in the states. :eek:
 
Nice firmware and it reads in English now. But now I want the Tubemeter and Multi-Switch! I know the Tubemeter is out because Aviddigi has one and I want one too. So how much are they? Got a part number to order with?
 
Top Nurse said:
Well do you want the long version or the short version?

Good night!

Added: Okay that wasn't very nice was it ;) I couldn't sleep till I told ya :D I have O.S. 2.03 VFD on firmware 4.05E currently running on my Aquaero. The AquaSuite version Beta 4.1 is running as well as I can tell. I don't have anything hooked up to it as I just hooked it up to this computer to flash it for you. When I shut down tonight it goes in my V2000B that I am still building. However, it does readout in English on the display.

A quick tip though! Check out my previous post about the Asus settings on the MB about the USB power being set at +5 VSB and see if it changes anything. Also when I was at Sharka Friday afternoon there was only 1 Aquaero left in stock and it may have sold over the weekend. So make sure you talk to Wes about any warranty exchanges you can talk him out of ASAP. I figure if he sells that one it will be at least 10 days before anymore show up here in the states. :eek:
Maybe I give you mine and see if it will flash?

I tried it on my new DFI NF4 SLI board ( :D ) with the same results. I wonder if it has anything to do with it being on USB7 or 8 all the time.....
 
R1ckCa1n said:
Maybe I give you mine and see if it will flash?

I tried it on my new DFI NF4 SLI board ( :D ) with the same results. I wonder if it has anything to do with it being on USB7 or 8 all the time.....

Well try on another USB header and if that doesn't work you can come over to my place today and we can see if it will flash on my rig. PM me for my phone and address if you want to do that.

If not then drop it off at Sharka Monday and I will see if I can flash it for you. I know you will be over there for the Shark feeding frenzy when all that A-C gear shows up, right? ;)
 
nigely said:
my new aqua computer stuff

Looks nice, but I think you forgot to take off the clear plastic off the plexiglas. The Plexiglas cover has plastic film on both sides of it. There is a white colored plastic film on one side and a clear plastic film on the other side. It should be crystal clear.

BTW, where do you have the Aquatube inlet located? Perhaps changing it to a different location will eliminate the bubbles. However, perhaps you are just seeing the bubbles that normally are in a system for a week or so. I assume you did not use a DD Fill-Port?
 
i have taken off the plastic thing on the plexi glass, the white stuff you see is the water drying out
i think the bubble will never go away, i have combine the aqua stream with DDC and its so powerful that even when i fill the aquatube to the top, it still makes bubble
the only solution is to install my mora2 pro x2 to kill the flow!
 
nigely said:
i have taken off the plastic thing on the plexi glass, the white stuff you see is the water drying out
i think the bubble will never go away, i have combine the aqua stream with DDC and its so powerful that even when i fill the aquatube to the top, it still makes bubble
the only solution is to install my mora2 pro x2 to kill the flow!

Water drying out??? On the outside of your case???

Can you post a pic showing the back end of your Aquatube please?

I'm also not understanding how you have the Aquastream and the DDC pump running at the same time. Are you running two different loops?
 
Give me some time to mull this over, but why don't you ditch the Aquastream pump and just use the DDC?
 
Top Nurse said:
Well try on another USB header and if that doesn't work you can come over to my place today and we can see if it will flash on my rig. PM me for my phone and address if you want to do that.

If not then drop it off at Sharka Monday and I will see if I can flash it for you. I know you will be over there for the Shark feeding frenzy when all that A-C gear shows up, right? ;)
I

I will drop it off on Monday for sure!@!!!! Would like to see if it works on your computer.
 
nigely said:
i have taken off the plastic thing on the plexi glass, the white stuff you see is the water drying out
i think the bubble will never go away, i have com!

how often do you need to re-fill the water? And I'm not just referring to the A-C set up, any other water cooling such as the Zalman reservator. Are we looking at once a mth. or once or twice a year?
 
Top Nurse said:
I haven't heard of it besides that one post so I don't know what to say. :)

that's good to hear. Whenever Wes has perfected the compatible issue w/ A-C cpu/gpu cooling fan in conjunction w/ the Zalman, and have enough members here or any other Over Clock forums try out the above, I would be very interested in buying the whole kit from him.

But I still have to find a compatible video cooling solution that works on the FX4400.
 
Happy Hopping said:
how often do you need to re-fill the water? And I'm not just referring to the A-C set up, any other water cooling such as the Zalman reservator. Are we looking at once a mth. or once or twice a year?

Twice a year seems to be the norm, but only because some people are playing around with their system and it just seems convenient.
 
Happy Hopping said:
that's good to hear. Whenever Wes has perfected the compatible issue w/ A-C cpu/gpu cooling fan in conjunction w/ the Zalman, and have enough members here or any other Over Clock forums try out the above, I would be very interested in buying the whole kit from him.

But I still have to find a compatible video cooling solution that works on the FX4400.

Well who makes your FX4400 would be a good place to start?

And as far as the Zalman / A-C thing goes I don't see that it ever is going to take on a big enough status to warrant a pro review, so as the old adage goes: Buy and Try. :D
 
Okay I have done some work on getting Aquaero prices down in the USA. I think that most people will be interested in what the Aquaero can do on screen once you see what the new Aqua Suite looks like. So A-C does sell a stripped down version of the Aquaero that is essentially all the guts and none of the glory. It does everything EXCEPT have a front panel display. It is called an Aquaero LT and I figure they will sell in the USA for about $180 USD.

If at a later date you decide you want a LCD or VFD display you can add the appropriate display and a few minor stuff like attachment hardware and a faceplate. I'm looking in to a local source for the Noritake VFD dispalys and the LCD displays are available from Matrix Orbital. This does not present any real problems as the new version 4.xx firmware is able to drive either a LCD or VFD display.

I have taken pics of the boards and VFD display in its component state. I will post these later today. :D
 
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