Star Wars: Battlefront Reboot

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  1. DPI

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    Except DICE MP beta's have always just been a map or two. This is not something new.

    It's pretty apparent from the last half dozen posts in this thread that really no matter what DICE would have done for the beta, there would be people squirting tears over it because it doesn't fit their personal hierarchy of needs and demands. The net will be inundated with videos of all maps and maps when the game launches, reviews are a thing, plenty of ways to judge the full package then.
     
  2. brennok

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    Easy one for me...Pass. No server browser means I won't buy and I won't even consider it. I tried the beta which did nothing to even remotely sway my opinion so it makes the decision even easier.

    The only chance of this being a success on PC is the fact it is Star Wars. Every other recently released FPS without a server browser on PC dies a quick death. Now I am not saying a server browser will save a game, see Hardline, but without it I don't expect the game to last for the masses.

    I just see the population dropping off quickly just like what happened in Titanfall, Hardline, any recent COD game, etc. I hope for those that buy I am wrong though otherwise you will find it more difficult to play certain modes since it always seems with matchmaking people flock to one mode.
     
  3. bloodhawke83

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    if there is a beta a month before release, it's not a beta. just a demo of released client of the game.
     
  4. DPI

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    Data miners extracted a huge amount of data from the beta code (WARNING: SPOILERS): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GLIU0KTIqI1Z-LaIDRwN8h9dUiul_GdVRmBa7IhVUU0/preview

    Bottom line? There's a TON of cool stuff that was not in the beta. Again, this isn't necessarily complete, it's just based on the strings that existed in the beta code. I've parsed the most interesting stuff here:

    HEROES (may not be complete)
    =====(HEROES)=====

    DARTH VADER
    Block
    Deflects blaster fire

    Force Choke
    Choke your enemies

    Saber Throw
    Throw your lightsaber at distant enemies

    Light attack
    Fast saber attacks

    Heavy Attack
    Strong, group attack


    LUKE SKYWALKER
    Block
    Deflects blaster fire

    Force Push
    Push your enemies away

    Saber Rush
    Charge distant enemies

    Light attack
    Fast saber attacks

    Heavy Attack
    Strong, group attack


    EMPEROR PALPATINE
    Chain Lightning
    Powerful lightning attack

    Block
    Deflects blaster fire

    Imperial resources
    Drop powers to your followers

    Force Dash
    Quickly leap to escape cornering

    Force lightning
    Harness the power of the Dark side

    Mind trick ƒ Outwit your enemies, reveal your true location

    Shock Troopers can spawn on you


    HAN SOLO
    Shoulder charge
    Dash attack

    Lucky shot
    Charge-up ƒ Good vs. vehicles

    Six shooter/Hair Trigger
    Pull trigger as fast as you can

    Combat roll
    Dodges incoming fire


    BOBA FETT
    Jetpack
    Hold to fly but monitor fuel level!

    Rocket Barrage
    Launch a rocket at your foes

    Flame pack
    A powerful burst of flame


    PRINCESS LEIA
    Trooper Bane
    One shot most enemies for limited time

    Supply drop
    Help your allies with special powers

    Enhanced shield
    Set up a shield to protect allies

    Combat roll
    Dodge incoming fire

    Alderaan Honor Guard can start on you
    CLASSES (May be for missions rather than Multiplayer)
    -(Rebels)
    REBEL SOLDIER
    QUARREN HEAVY GUNNER
    RODIAN SNIPER
    ISHI TIB JETPACK SOLDIER
    DUROS SHADOW SOLDIER
    SULLUSTIAN DEMOLITION
    *(Alderaan Honor Guard? - may be map specific/based on hero ability)

    -(Imperials)
    STORMTROOPER
    SHOCK TROOPER
    BIKER SCOUT
    JUMPTROOPER
    SHADOW TROOPER
    DEMOLITION TROOPER

    STAR CARDS
    THERMAL DETONATOR
    -The most popular and widely used grenade in the galaxy. It is easy to use and has deadly results.

    EXPLOSIVE SHOT
    -Temporarily supercharges your primary weapon to fire explosive bolts.

    IMPACT GRENADE
    -Having a smaller blast radius than a Thermal Detonator, the Impact Grenade explodes directly on contact with any object.

    PULSE CANNON
    -An incredibly powerful long-range rifle utilizing the frame assembly of a DLT-20A, the so-called "pulse cannon" has become the weapon of choice for many sharpshooters. The power of its shot is dependent on the charge-up time.

    COOLING CELL
    -When activated, vents heat from your main weapon and prevents further heat build-up for a short period of time.
    -Cools down the primary weapon so that it does not overheat for X seconds

    CYCLER RIFLE
    -Designed to fire solid projectiles, this crude but reliable rifle is excellent at hitting targets at extreme ranges and penetrating energy shields.
    -The Cycler Rifle is rumored to be a modification of the Czerka hunting rifle made by Tusken Raiders after they stole large shipments of the weapon from Imperial lockups.

    THERMAL IMPLODER
    -The Thermal Imploder compresses and heats the surrounding atmosphere, creating a vacuum that produces a violent implosion within a massive radius.
    -Based upon the success of the Thermal Detonator, Loratus Manufacturing developed a substantially more powerful device known as the Thermal Imploder. Unfortunately, its users were often caught in the weapon's massive implosion radius.

    CLUSTER SHOT
    -Adds an explosive splash to the primary weapon

    FLASH GRENADE
    -A non-lethal explosive which creates a bright energy flash and loud noise to disorient opponents.

    ION GRENADE
    -An ion grenade that delivers massive damage against vehicles, shields, and droids.

    Rocketpack *(?-out of place, may have been copy/holdover of jumppack)
    (PLACEHOLDER) The Rocketpack allows you to traverse the environment.

    BARRAGE
    -The MPL-57 (Multi-Purpose Launcher) Barrage fires a volley of 3 grenades with a short delay fuse.
    -During the Galactic War, Merr-Sonn sought to widen their market share with the MPL-57 (Multi-Purpose Launcher). The versatile nature of this weapon system and its capability of firing a wide range of ammunition made it popular on the battlefield.

    ION TORPEDO
    -A homing ion torpedo that is designed to deal heavy damage to vehicles and stationary weapons.
    -A modification of the popular MPL-57 weapon system engineered to fire ion torpedoes. Extremely effective against vehicles and stationary weapons.

    HOMING SHOT
    -A homing rocket that locks on to enemy soldiers from afar.

    SCOUT PISTOL
    -A light side-arm effective at taking out opponents at close range. Quickly loses its capabilities at longer distances.
    -PLACEHOLDER The Scout Pistol is the perfect close range wepaon to switch to when your primary weapon is in overheat.

    SMOKE GRENADE
    -Smoke grenades provide dense smoke that blocks visibility and lock-on weapons.

    BOWCASTER
    -Depending on the charge-up time, the Bowcaster fires 1 or more explosive bolts in a horizontal arc.
    -As robust and formidable as its Wookiee creators, the Bowcaster is more powerful than an average blaster, making it a favorite among mercenaries and bounty hunters across the galaxy.

    PERSONAL SHIELD
    -The Personal Energy Shield provides protection from energy weapons. However, it offers no defense against kinetic weapons like Cycler Rifles and grenades.
    -To minimize casualties, the Empire modified the Droideka Shield Technology for use by ground troops. Although it hindered the use of weapons, it proved popular and was adopted by the Rebel Alliance.

    ION SHOT
    -A modification which allows your primary weapon to fire ion charged bolts, making it very effective against shields, droids, and vehicles.
    -With limited supplies of armaments, Rebel forces often made battlefield adaptions to their weapons. A notable case was the development of an insert which allowed normal blasters to fire ion charged bolts for short periods of time.

    JUMP PACK
    -Back mounted Jump Pack that utilizes burst thrusters to allow its user to jump over large distances. It is well suited for traversing obstructions and evading danger.
    -Although the Jump Pack does not allow for sustained flight, it offers troops a reliable alternative to move quickly across the battlefield.

    SMART ROCKET
    -A rocket that can be dumb-fired at any target. Automatically switches to guided mode when it detects an enemy vehicle.
    -The experimental SoroSuub Rocket was intelligent enough to be fired in dumb mode, then switch to guided mode mid-flight if a target of opportunity appeared.

    ORBITAL STRIKE
    -A lethal cannon barrage from planetary orbiting ships, covering a large area.
    -Capital ships have often altered the tide of battle when called upon for orbital-to-ground fire missions. Boasting turbolasers and pinpoint accuracy, targets have little hope of withstanding their massive barrage.

    SQUAD SHIELD
    -Portable energy shield that protects users from blasters and other energy weapons.
    -Following the Battle of Naboo, weapons manufactures scrambled to modify the Gungan shield technology into a man-portable device. The resulting Squad Shield is now used extensively by Combat Engineers.

    CARD REFRESH
    -Resets the cooldown on all of your cards.

    FOCUS FIRE
    -Temporarily grants a considerable bonus to accuracy with your primary weapon. *(? - out of place/ farther than most other descriptions but fit)
    -The Focus Fire Star Card will greatly increase your blasters accuracy.

    R5D4 DROID
    -This droid patrols the immediate surroundings, scans for enemies, and attacks them on sight.

    VIPER PROBE DROID
    -This droid patrols the immediate surroundings, scans for enemies, and attacks them on sight.

    PROXIMITY BOMB
    -A powerful explosive that triggers when enemies are nearby.

    INFANTRY TURRET
    -Automatically detects and attacks enemy soldiers.

    VEHICLE TURRET
    -Automatically scans for and attacks enemy vehicles.

    BLASTER CANNON
    -The Mark II is a deployable blaster cannon that uses devastating firepower to keep the enemy at bay.

    SCAN PULSE *(? - out of place)
    -A 360 degree pulse burst that reveals enemy soldiers, even if they are behind cover or out of sight.
    TRAITS
    BERSERKER
    -Orphaned at a young age, you were raised by the Wookiee Berserkers on Kashyyyk, where you learned to revel in fierce combat.
    LEVEL 1 - Health regeneration starts a bit faster
    LEVEL 2 - Health regeneration starts faster
    LEVEL 3 - Health regeneration starts much faster AND replenish a small amount of health with each kill

    SHARPSHOOTER
    -Trained as a sharpshooter by a small team of rogue elite snipers, you enjoy operating alone and harassing the enemy from afar.
    LEVEL 1 - Headshot kills reduce current cooldowns by a small amount
    LEVEL 2 - Headshot kills reduce current cooldowns by a medium amount
    LEVEL 3 - Headshot kills reduce current cooldowns by a large amount

    BODYGUARD
    -Rigorous training and a brief career as a bodyguard in the Outer Rim has made you a lethal warrior capable of handling extreme situations.
    LEVEL 1 - Decreases explosive damage by a small amount
    LEVEL 2 - Decreases explosive damage by a medium amount
    LEVEL 3 - Decreases explosive damage by a large amount AND blaster damage by a small amount

    SCOUT
    -During a brief stint in an elite reconnaissance unit, you learned how to use stealth tactics to find and eliminate the enemy.
    LEVEL 1 - Sprinting does not show on enemy scanner
    LEVEL 2 - Sprinting and firing your primary weapon does not show on enemy scanner
    LEVEL 3 - Sprinting and firing your primary weapon does not show on enemy scanner AND killing an enemy resets weapon heat

    BOUNTY HUNTER
    -The Galactic War creates many veterans looking for opportunities. Fighting for the highest bidder, they see each battle as a chance to gain new riches.
    LEVEL 1 - Low chance to get a Power Card with each kill
    LEVEL 2 - Medium chance to get a Power Card with each kill
    LEVEL 3 - High chance to get a Power Card with each kill AND resets cooldown with each kill

    VEHICLES
    SPEEDER BIKE
    T-47 AIRSPEEDER
    AT-ST
    AT-AT
    TIE FIGHTER
    X-WING
    A-WING
    TIE INTERCEPTOR
    MILLENNIUM FALCON
    SLAVE 1
    E-WEB
    ATGAR
    DF-9
    TRANSPORT *(may be only AI controlled)
    TURBO LASER
    Y-WING *(may be only AI controlled, as in beta)
    PLANETS
    Hoth
    Tatooine
    Endor
    Sullust

    RACE OPTIONS
    =====(RACE OPTIONS)=====
    -*(Rebel Male)-
    *(Human)
    Rebel AM Duros
    Rebel AM IshiTib
    Rebel AM Quarren
    Rebel AM Rodian
    Rebel AM Sullustan

    -*(Rebel Female)-
    *(Human)
    Rebel AF Twilek
     
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  5. Eshelmen

    Eshelmen [H]ardness Supreme

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    Yeah! That's what I'm talking about.

    A few more heroes are surely on their way in the upcoming dlcs.
    Not sure why they would pick Leia over others. But okay then. I'm sure she will kick ass.
     
  6. mmarsh

    mmarsh Limp Gawd

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    Thanks for the info, but keep in mind that information from Data Mines can be misleading and should be taken with a grain of salt.

    Sometimes ideas/features etc get removed from the game but not from the code. Programming can be like pull threads on a carpet (you tug a thread and something else unravels) therefore some of what the Data Miners found could be stuff the Devs decided not to include becuase it was easier just to wall it off than actually remove it. The classes systems for example we know will not make it into the game as the devs have confirmed this.

    The faux-scandal about GTA "Hot Coffee" was a prime example of people finding abandoned code inside of a game.
     
  7. lilbabycat

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    But lets also ignore all those times that "on-disc" DLC was found. "It wasn't finished! You can't expect them to include stuff that's only 50% complete with the base game...Oh it was 99.9% the same at release? Well I got my money's worth you're entitled!"
     
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    polonyc2 [H]ard as it Gets

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    Earlier this month data-miners discovered that Star Wars: Battlefront will let you play as Princess Leia, Han Solo and Emperor Palpatine...now we have the details on just what playing as these characters entails...Emperor Palpatine attacks with Force Lightning, wherein he emits lightning from his fingertips as he did in Return of the Jedi...he also has a Chain Lightning attack that deals damage in all directions, and a Force Dash that whisks him forward at top speed...he's also the Empire's support Villain and can use the Imperial Resource ability to boost the health of other villains and offer resources to fellow dark side followers...

    http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015...front-leia-han-and-palpatine-join-the-battle/

    I want to play Palpatine!...so there can be more then 1 Hero/Villain on the battlefield at once?
     
  10. Brules

    Brules Gawd

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    P A S S for me.

    - No server browser
    - No squads
    - No commander
    - Ship/vehicle spawns by random pick ups is dumb as fuck
    - Hero pickup via spawned pick up is ^
    - Random spawns - fucking kidding me?
    - Plays like COD for 8 year olds on concoles

    Game is downright shit. It will last like Titanfall did lol.

    ONLY good thing I have seen is the game engine and modeling. That part is stellar. Rest is dumbed down shit for consoles.
     
  11. mstersmith80

    mstersmith80 [H]Lite

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    Pretty much. Star Wars has always been that rare brand that proved you could polish a turd.
     
  12. DPI

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    "players spawning close to her (Leia) will spawn as Alderaan Honor Guards."

    Intredasting detail shared by gameplay design lead.
     
  13. grambo

    grambo [H]ard|Gawd

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    This.

    Personally, I buy probably 3 maybe 4 games at retail price a year plus some on Steam sale. Even if I get 20 hours out of $60 that is huge value to me. I got 300 hours in BC2 and BF3 and about 150 out of BF4 (stopped playing all games last year for a while).
     
  14. bloodhawke83

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    Ya'll are still crying like a bunch of little girls about dedicated servers?

    Dedicated servers mean nothing, just another thing for [H] to bitch about.

    The only thing you want them for are so you can steal the game and play on unauthorized servers.
     
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    cvinh [H]ard|Gawd

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    $60 is alot if you're trying to decide among a new game every couple weeks but I have seen the game on preorder for $45. Also from what I've played in the beta, not worth even $45 to me.
     
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    MavericK Zero Cool

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    2/10 troll attempt, would not read again.
     
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    Pringle 2[H]4U

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    Retirement treating you alright? Those kids and their games, amirite?
     
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    amirite had me lol
     
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    Brules Gawd

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    Sorry but I still go to a monthly LAN party and like gaming with friends. No server browser fucks all that up.

    Ask Titanfall how having no browser, random spawns etc (just like this game) worked out........
     
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    I think Titanflop had much bigger problems for its lack of longevity than no server browser and random spawns. It was a fundamentally dull game on an old engine. 6 on 6 + braindead bots, lame lockon pistols. Got old quick. Granted, some people feel that way about Battlefront too - especially the people that are mad its not JUST LIKE BATTLEFIELD - but I don't think they're really comparable.
     
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  22. DPI

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    $45 at GMG with 25% off certain titles (includes Battlefront): GMGMID-SEASON-25PERC
     
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    its another NO DICE game crap.
     
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    Thanks bro. I'll order this weekend.
     
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    The in-depth analysis is strong with this one.
     
  28. Eshelmen

    Eshelmen [H]ardness Supreme

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    For those who don't like Battlefront and or Dice shooter games, what current multiplayer shooter would you consider as being: in depth, fun, non linear, etc..?
     
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  29. CaptNumbNutz

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    Wow. That's about the dumbest and most naive thing I've read on these forums in a long time. You haven't even tried to understand what's going on have you?

    1st, no one is bitching about a lack of dedicated servers. The game has dedicated servers because a peer to peer server system like COD:MW2 is completely unfeasible with 40+ players. Dedicated servers have already been confirmed.

    2nd, people steal games and play on authorized servers ALL THE TIME. You don't need an "unauthorized" server to do that.

    3rd, people are complaining about the lack of a server browser. Big difference between a server browser and dedicated servers. Without a server browser, no one can rent out a server to host for specific game modes/configurations, nor can their be active admins that kick/ban abusive and cheating players because of the inadequacy of anti-cheat systems. Enjoy getting raped by trolls like yourself with day one hacks. It will be you that's bitching like a whiny little girl when the game community falls apart so quickly.

    2/10? His attempt doesn't even register on the scale. Most trolls at least try to be clever.
     
  30. polonyc2

    polonyc2 [H]ard as it Gets

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    Battlefront will also offer a pair of powerful Hero Vehicles to cause trouble with: the Millennium Falcon and Slave 1...Hero Vehicles will be limited to the Fighter Squadron mode, and work in basically the same way as Hero characters. They're acquired by grabbing and activating tokens, you get a single spawn, and once you've been blown out of the sky you'll be returned to the cockpit of your regularly scheduled snubfighter

    Both the Millennium Falcon and Slave 1 are faster and more heavily armed than conventional fighters, but Slave 1 is more "arsenal-heavy" and sounds like it's the real bad boy on the block...it packs ion cannons, proton torpedoes, and a jammer that prevents missile locks and keeps the ship undetectable on the mini-map...

    http://www.pcgamer.com/star-wars-ba...1-and-the-fastest-hunk-of-junk-in-the-galaxy/
     
  31. piscian18

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    Not sure what non-linear means. CSGO, TF2, CODBLOPSIII is coming out soonish?

    http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
     
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    looks damn fun. i'm excited to play the different maps.
     
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    Kirika Gawd

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    Any news on if they added for release.
    1. Server Browser
    2. Squads
    3. Ability to change teams.

    It is hard to play with your friends without these things.
     
  36. polonyc2

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    I'm really looking forward to seeing the Endor map...I'm interested in seeing how the speeder bikes will work since they will not be on rails like the AT-AT's...
     
  37. socK

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    It looks fucking incredible

    I'll be surprised if the game is more than underwhelming though
     
  38. piscian18

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    Actually looked kind crappy and poorly staged. Still, fingers crossed. I look forward to balls out amazing reviews of it being the best star wars game adaptation ever.
     
  39. MavericK

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    Wait...can you play as the fucking Emperor? That doesn't even make sense...like he'd be running around on the ground with troops.
     
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    "UNLIMITED POW" * BOOM HEADSHOT!*