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Star Citizen - media blowout, Chris Robert's new game

Its not that I can say Master Modes are bad, but the 3.23 weapon balance/hull health/whatever is really off right now. AI are ace marksmen right now, hell psychic even, so combat feels completely broken.
 
Would you guys post what HOTAS you all are using and if you like it and if not, which one you'd prefer to use if given the opportunity?
This game is unplayable with a controller.
 
grifter_66 said:
Would you guys post what HOTAS you all are using and if you like it and if not, which one you'd prefer to use if given the opportunity?
This game is unplayable with a controller.
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Most space sim people go HOSAS (dual sticks) since it helps with 6 DOF flight.

I use dual VKB Gladiator NXT Evos with the ‘space combat’ sticks and have no complaints. Some people get the omni throttle for the left stick but since I don’t play anything else I just went with two normal sticks.
 
grifter_66 said:
Would you guys post what HOTAS you all are using and if you like it and if not, which one you'd prefer to use if given the opportunity?
This game is unplayable with a controller.
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(Right hand) VKB Gunfighter v1 with Modern Combat Grip (pitch and yaw), (left hand) Thrustmaster T16000 (strafe up, down, left, right and roll), (feet) VKB Rudder Pedals (strafe forward and backward).
 
BassTek said:
Most space sim people go HOSAS (dual sticks) since it helps with 6 DOF flight.

I use dual VKB Gladiator NXT Evos with the ‘space combat’ sticks and have no complaints. Some people get the omni throttle for the left stick but since I don’t play anything else I just went with two normal sticks.
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Same! It is the best bang for the buck.
 
Invictus is live, chance to rent for free (along with the Free Fly event) most of the combat ships in the game. And the game isn't even broken...that badly ;-) Use a referral code randomizer (or my code in signature :D ) if you are creating an account so you get some extra aUEC (in game cash).
 
grifter_66 said:
Would you guys post what HOTAS you all are using and if you like it and if not, which one you'd prefer to use if given the opportunity?
This game is unplayable with a controller.
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VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime for the right stick, on a VPC WarBRD base. Tuned with the extra heavy springs and CosmoSim No-Center cams for a nice, heavy, linear response.
Thrustmaster TCA Sidestick (different button layout version of the t.16000) for the left stick (I used two of these for a couple years without issue - they/the T16000 are great with the HEART tracking for the price)
Saitek PRO Throttle Quadrant (Just to the outside of the left stick for SC)

Thats my current controllers for SC - when I do IL2 or something, I just use the VPC stick and throttle quadrant. Ill eventually replace the left stick with something better, but I dont know if I will go so far as to invest in another VPC quality stick for that or not.
 
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12 Years and $700 Million Later, What's Going on With Star Citizen's Development?

Both current and former staff say that one of the fundamental issues at CIG is the creative process, which will see the head honcho of CIG, Chris Roberts, make game-defining changes daily that can cause weeks of issues...Roberts is relatively well-known in and out of the Star Citizen community for being a perfectionist at the best times...still, developers feel that his constant changes in vision and scope have become one of the most significant burdens to Star Citizen, Squadron 42, and CIG as a development studio

According to sources who believe backers’ money could be spent much more efficiently, the coffee bar is just one example of CIG’s unnecessary spending habits...spending tens of thousands of pounds on custom furniture and oversized props isn’t unusual, sources say, with management justifying its spending habits because it’s “pushing the boundaries of game development”...

https://insider-gaming.com/star-citizens-development/
 
I hope this whole project burns to the ground soon so someone with a little discipline, who actually knows how to develop a game, can come in and pick up the assets for cheap and actually finish the damn thing!
 
12 years and really no game yet. What a bunch of bullshit.

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If people are enjoying the game and are happy with the progress, why the hate? You don't like it, don't get involved in it.
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
If people are enjoying the game and are happy with the progress, why the hate? You don't like it, don't get involved in it.
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If they are enjoying this dumpster fire of a feature creep alpha, just imagine how much more they, and people with standards would actually enjoy a complete, stable product.
I've been "involved" since before they even did the kickstarter. I have as much of a right to point out the bullshit as you do to simp for this crap... it's people like you who are allowing this to happen, ruining it for anyone with rational expectations based on the core promises made. If you don't like people pointing that out then go back to the RSI echo chamber forums.
 
grifter_66 said:
If they are enjoying this dumpster fire of a feature creep alpha, just imagine how much more they, and people with standards would actually enjoy a complete, stable product.
I've been "involved" since before they even did the kickstarter. I have as much of a right to point out the bullshit as you do to simp for this crap... it's people like you who are allowing this to happen, ruining it for anyone with rational expectations based on the core promises made. If you don't like people pointing that out then go back to the RSI echo chamber forums.
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Please keep your standards to yourself ;P and support what you enjoy. Clearly there are a lot of people that log on and play feature creep alpha and people are still spending money on this project. Sooo...... I guess your wish won't come true any time soon.
 
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On one had that is quite cool that the studio looks like the interior of a ship. On the other, it is a waste of money and especially problematic because people are donating money. They're donating for a game and this money takes away from hiring more competent people to build content that will benefit them. Though I think it has been obvious for some years Roberts knows this and likely has no plan to deliver the game in a final state. He gets paid a salary, probably more than the typical game developer in his position, and has more leeway than most in his position. He also doesn't need to deliver a product. I'm sure some backers are okay with this and probably tell themselves they enjoy this business model, where they pay up front and hope something that delivers on the advertisements is being developed. I'm sure some will even justify the expensive coffee bar with LED floor lighting (WTF?).

That I don't care about, their money, their problems. What I do care about is the people who donated a decade ago and want something that isn't buggy and something that is more enjoyable to play. A complete product.
 
Flogger23m said:
On one had that is quite cool that the studio looks like the interior of a ship. On the other, it is a waste of money and especially problematic because people are donating money. They're donating for a game and this money takes away from hiring more competent people to build content that will benefit them. Though I think it has been obvious for some years Roberts knows this and likely has no plan to deliver the game in a final state. He gets paid a salary, probably more than the typical game developer in his position, and has more leeway than most in his position. He also doesn't need to deliver a product. I'm sure some backers are okay with this and probably tell themselves they enjoy this business model, where they pay up front and hope something that delivers on the advertisements is being developed. I'm sure some will even justify the expensive coffee bar with LED floor lighting (WTF?).
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I have tons of crazy stories about CR and his wife from the early SC days. Anyone who knows about the shady shit they did and how they are still doing should not be giving their company any money. A good portion of that money is not going towards game development.

Anyways, I think that shitter is now posturing the game to be sold off to Microsoft just like he did with Freelancer 20 years ago. That's always been his exit strategy. Milk this shit for as long as possible, and make a final push eventually with SQ42 to get a buyer so he can bail. This is his track record. No one should expect any different.
 
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On one had that is quite cool that the studio looks like the interior of a ship. On the other, it is a waste of money and especially problematic because people are donating money. They're donating for a game and this money takes away from hiring more competent people to build content that will benefit them. Though I think it has been obvious for some years Roberts knows this and likely has no plan to deliver the game in a final state. He gets paid a salary, probably more than the typical game developer in his position, and has more leeway than most in his position. He also doesn't need to deliver a product. I'm sure some backers are okay with this and probably tell themselves they enjoy this business model, where they pay up front and hope something that delivers on the advertisements is being developed. I'm sure some will even justify the expensive coffee bar with LED floor lighting (WTF?).

That I don't care about, their money, their problems. What I do care about is the people who donated a decade ago and want something that isn't buggy and something that is more enjoyable to play. A complete product.
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Well, it is not a donation, you are backing a project(pledging), so you are giving your $$ with the hopes of getting something out of it at some point (Playing the game for example when finished, super early access).
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
Well, it is not a donation, you are backing a project(pledging), so you are giving your $$ with the hopes of getting something out of it at some point (Playing the game for example when finished, super early access).
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umm i think that was the point, money should be going to the game, not fancy floor lighting...
 
I'm a backer since the beginning and I'm enjoying all the angst and the optimism from both sides.
 
pendragon1 said:
umm i think that was the point, money should be going to the game, not fancy floor lighting...
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You are pledging to the project. The project is not just paying devs to write code, and you don't get to dictate how they achieve the goal right?

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There's no fix for stupid
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Is there a fix for arrogance?
 
Mchart said:
I have tons of crazy stories about CR and his wife from the early SC days. Anyone who knows about the shady shit they did and how they are still doing should not be giving their company any money. A good portion of that money is not going towards game development.

Anyways, I think that shitter is now posturing the game to be sold off to Microsoft just like he did with Freelancer 20 years ago. That's always been his exit strategy. Milk this shit for as long as possible, and make a final push eventually with SQ42 to get a buyer so he can bail. This is his track record. No one should expect any different.
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Microsoft getting duped again would be funny.
 
Flogger23m said:
It is just poor form. People donated expecting something within their rough outline. Even with a delay of 6 years a complete product should have been out by 2020.
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Honestly, most people who backed early on would have been fine with everything if the original plan of releasing squadron 42 happened. We wouldn't have minded waiting years for everything else.
 
polonyc2 said:
isn't crowdfunding money only meant to be used for game development costs and not refurbishing of the offices?
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No, crowdfunding is like being an investor without a share of the company or vote. You receive a fixed return for your pledge(and even that is not guarantied if the project fails), and that is all you get. So you don't get dictate how that money is spent.
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
No, crowdfunding is like being an investor without a share of the company or vote. You receive a fixed return for your pledge(and even that is not guarantied if the project fails), and that is all you get. So you don't get dictate how that money is spent.
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I guess I was confusing it with GoFundMe which has more strict rules on how money is to be used
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
No, crowdfunding is like being an investor without a share of the company or vote. You receive a fixed return for your pledge(and even that is not guarantied if the project fails), and that is all you get. So you don't get dictate how that money is spent.
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Legally it is likely fine in most countries. Though like I said it is poor form. If something is delayed by around a decade and they aren't spending money efficiently that is a problem. I don't think anyone cares if someone else blows another $10,000 on it. Their money their decision. But the people who put down money hoping for something to be released a number of years ago get to see them inefficiently spending money on office decor while waiting for a finished product.
 
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