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I'm devoting my time is funny coming from someone who posted a wall of text oozing of propaganda. Sorry, but I don't believe anyone communicates in PR release fashion on a discussion forum. Especially not in a reply to a single post warranting a one line answer. Which I and a few others given.Imagine if we all replied as you do - "Are you paid by someone to constantly shit on the game, or a troll pissing in everyone's cereal for the hell of it"? Come on, that kind of thing is not conducive to the discussion.
He asked for information about getting into the game so I provided that along with a little background, unaware of his knowledge level, in the hopes of giving him a place to start.
I'll never understand how some people have gotten so focused and devote their time to shitting on the game with such vehemence; did you walk in on your significant other cheating with a Star Citizen developer or something? If you don't like the game, that's fine. But this kind of nonsense seems like an unnecessary waste of time and imposes on those who want to discuss the title. There are plenty of other game threads out there - spend time in one you like However anyone who stays here should attempt to comport themselves with civility, even when differences of opinion arise.
excessive optimism
Optimism allows us maintain hope and fight for what we want, but the excessive optimism turns us careless and miserable.
1. Lie to yourself. Feeding excessive optimism, regardless of reality, is like lying to yourself, but the worst thing is that you are not fully aware that you’re doing that.
2. Develop selective attention. Being overly optimistic will lead us to focus only on the things that we want to see. The excess of optimism will also make us misinterpret the warning signs, making us believe that all is well, and make us ignore the small problems that will continue to grow becoming insurmountable obstacles.
3. Make the steps in the wrong direction. Excessive optimism prevents us from judging objectively the reality, therefore, we are not able to adapt our behaviour to what is happening and we finish taking steps in the wrong direction.
4. Do not have a plan B. In life, especially when we undertake important projects, it is essential to pay attention to unexpected changes to correct the course, and if necessary, implement the plan B. The toxic optimism prevents us even just to take into consideration this possibility, as if we bet everything we have on a single number, without taking into account that there is also the possibility of losing.
5. Develop unreal expectations. We organize a large part of our lives based on what we hope to achieve, which means we feed unrealistic expectations, we live in our minds, moving far away from reality. It's like if we were repeating constantly to ourselves: “Why taking an umbrella if it won’t be raining?”
I don't think partial refund is an option. Either you're all in or all out. But I've heard stories that they started refusing refunds entirely recently, not sure if that's true or not.Best option for getting out of my package? I have the super hornet that I bought in for 180 pretty far back. I've been content watching the sidelines mostly, I know it's a big undertaking and smaller scope games take 5-7 years for AAA. Too many reasons I've become unsatisfied with everything for the money I'm in for. I see I could get a full refund e-mailing. At this point I'd be more interested in just getting knocked down to the $40 package pretty much, just PU and SQ42 would be fine even though couldve got a ship at that price too but I'd like $140 back now. I'll keep the rest invested for awhile longer in them before a full refund. Anyone know if they've downgraded and done partial refunds or should I just try to sell the package as is off to someone and then rebuy a cheaper one and pocket the money.
I don't think partial refund is an option. Either you're all in or all out. But I've heard stories that they started refusing refunds entirely recently, not sure if that's true or not.
I imagine testing hot air would be quite time consuming.People who are part of the Evocati testers group sign/acknowledge an NDA when they install a new build they are going to test. I did it for one major patch a few months ago (IIRC it was the Starfarer patch) but I dropped out because I just couldn't devote the time I felt was needed to do a proper job. I am still part of the First Wave testers though (we get invites right after the Evocati) and still help sending reports/reproducing bugs that are posted on the issue council page when I have the time.
I'm not happy with the delays, but I am happy with what they've been putting out.
Sometimes we figure people that make up facts are trolls, seems more likely than they're just bad at math. KS was Nov. 2012 and unlike some other games they hadn't been developing the game before that. So more like 4.5 years of dev work.
If you're worried about it, don't back, save your cash. Wait and see. You can always get the game later. Just don't shitpost in this thread.
I'm not happy with the delays, but I am happy with what they've been putting out.
There are new ships being put out regularly and developer's hard work and commitment is accordingly rewarded with constant cash influx. Just because you don't follow the development doesn't mean there haven't been huge advancements in the promised features list.Can you explain what they've put out?
There are new ships being put out regularly and developer's hard work and commitment is accordingly rewarded with constant cash influx. Just because you don't follow the development doesn't mean there haven't been huge advancements in the promised features list.
Honestly, it feels like you're just trolling instead of looking at your hanger to see the progress yourself. There's hardly a gap in its content.
See that's starting to be the problem for long term backers. For too long all we keep seeing is more ships being put out while other alpha stuff is supposed to be released too. Yes I know theres multiple teams and departments, the only consistent thing is ships rolling out, new ones being made and sold. The features are incredibly puzzling. I for sure thought at least 3.0 wouldve been by now with how often they said by end of 2016. it's freaking April now with 3.0 still quiet, mining is the next update. Probably be 2.7 or something different for months before 3.0 end of summer or fall at this rate.All the big work is always in the back end still constantly.Which we know is necessary, they should have been able to have more features other than a few more ships though.
Get your refund or sell your package. Learn a lesson about best laid plans and enthusiasm. Genuinely sorry you're unhappy.
I'm a pre-day one backer, not unhappy. I didn't give them a single dime I would miss and I knew right from the outset it was going to be long haul and might be a total bust. Every penny they got after a few million extended the time I expected and problems.
I don't think you're trolling by the way, I just think you shouldn't have backed and should have waited until retail from a personality standpoint. That's on them for poor communications and early decision making as well as you. Anyone vaguely familiar with PC games should have seen the mountains of challenges this thing is going to have. For people brand new to the platform and gaming in general... I feel bad if any of those people tossed in a bunch of money because they had no life experience to go off.
To your previous edit,
As far as transparency goes, I've not had a single question unanswered; even when the answer is ugly. I live close to the Santa Monica offices so get to meet ups much more often than most people though. I've talked to a lot of the guys in person. There's zero bullshit from them in my experience in those interactions. I'm old, been around PC gaming for decades and have the opportunity to meet tons of game developers over the years at events. Never have they been as open and straight. I get that following the project is tough because they're not good at that part and they change their mind a lot. Totally valid criticism. There's also no chance this isn't the most open large gaming project I've ever encountered in like I said, 30+ years of PC games.
Anyway, from a fan of the project who I'm sure would be considered a shill by some; I hate to see people that gave them money upset over that decision. I hope you can sell it or get a refund. Best of luck.
I thought the sarcasm was visibly dripping from that postSee that's starting to be the problem for long term backers. For too long all we keep seeing is more ships being put out while other alpha stuff is supposed to be released too. Yes I know theres multiple teams and departments, the only consistent thing is ships rolling out, new ones being made and sold. The features are incredibly puzzling. I for sure thought at least 3.0 wouldve been by now with how often they said by end of 2016. it's freaking April now with 3.0 still quiet, mining is the next update. Probably be 2.7 or something different for months before 3.0 end of summer or fall at this rate.All the big work is always in the back end still constantly.Which we know is necessary, they should have been able to have more features other than a few more ships though.
See that's starting to be the problem for long term backers. For too long all we keep seeing is more ships being put out while other alpha stuff is supposed to be released too. Yes I know theres multiple teams and departments, the only consistent thing is ships rolling out, new ones being made and sold. The features are incredibly puzzling. I for sure thought at least 3.0 wouldve been by now with how often they said by end of 2016. it's freaking April now with 3.0 still quiet, mining is the next update. Probably be 2.7 or something different for months before 3.0 end of summer or fall at this rate.All the big work is always in the back end still constantly.Which we know is necessary, they should have been able to have more features other than a few more ships though.
Sometimes we figure people that make up facts are trolls, seems more likely than they're just bad at math. KS was Nov. 2012 and unlike some other games they hadn't been developing the game before that. So more like 4.5 years of dev work.
I am downloading now. Last time I check out SC was over a year ago.
I was VERY disappointed with the state of development at that time. Bugs galore, movement mechanics sucks ass, FPS is horrible, MOTION BLUR WTF!!!!!
At that time, I got a refund on my Idris-P.
If when this download finishes, the game is not in a better state, I will be requesting refunds on my Super Hornet, Retaliator and other ships.
If when this download finishes, the game is not in a better state, I will be requesting refunds on my Super Hornet, Retaliator and other ships.
I'm sure some of these folks would appreciate knowing what the process is like.
I received my refund a couple of months ago. Took about a week from firing off my refund request to having the money in my Paypal account. They send 2 or 3 "are you really sure?" e-mails throughout the process, but stay firm and polite in your responses and you will easily get your money back.
Anyone vaguely familiar with PC games should have seen the mountains of challenges this thing is going to have. For people brand new to the platform and gaming in general... I feel bad if any of those people tossed in a bunch of money because they had no life experience to go off.
You're right, anyone who was PC gaming in the Freelancer days knows that Roberts doesn't have it in him to deliver this project.
Im pretty damn sick of this game as well. Mass Effect Andromeda was made on 40 million. These people have over 140 million and a huge team.
You're right, anyone who was PC gaming in the Freelancer days knows that Roberts doesn't have it in him to deliver this project.
Where are people getting this 40 million figure from? It sounds completely divorced from reality for any EA developed game especially when compared to the known development costs of other sand box open world games. The Witcher 3 cost $81 million, GTA V cost $265 million, The Old Republic cost $200 million, etc. There is no way a development team of over 200 people working for 5 years only cost $40 million.
Im lazy but look it up. Yes 40 million.
I have looked and not found one credible source, that 40 million figure seems to be uniformly associated with memes which likely pulled it out of thin air. Think about it....200 devs over 5 years of itself would amount to 50 million assuming a signicantly discounted average salary of 50k per person, and that doesn't even account for costs associated with overheads, licensing of software plugins, marketing or salaries of voice actors.
Yeah, that number seems completely unsubstantiated...I can't find a source anywhere, just memes referencing it.
I have looked and not found one credible source, that 40 million figure seems to be uniformly associated with memes which likely pulled it out of thin air. Think about it....200 devs over 5 years of itself would amount to 50 million assuming a signicantly discounted average salary of 50k per person, and that doesn't even account for costs associated with overheads, licensing of software plugins, marketing or salaries of voice actors.
ME3 was estimated at $40 million, maybe that was translated to Andromeda. Whatever the number is, Andromeda still has shitty animations and Star Citizen still isn't going to be finished.I have looked and not found one credible source, that 40 million figure seems to be uniformly associated with memes which likely pulled it out of thin air. Think about it....200 devs over 5 years of itself would amount to 50 million assuming a signicantly discounted average salary of 50k per person, and that doesn't even account for costs associated with overheads, licensing of software plugins, marketing or salaries of voice actors.