SENTRY: Console-sized gaming PC case project

Ej24

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My ryzen 1700 IDLE temperature is 50~55C. is this normal temperature?
I don't have a Ryzen system, there are a few with ryzen in Sentry and from what I remember, no, that is not normal. Ryzen is both efficient and soldered so it should be cooler than that, especially the 65W R7 1700

What cpu cooler are you using? Is the fan set to "silent" or a low speed in the bios? Check that first. I assume you're using a quality thermal paste too? Good thermal paste application?

Are you overclocking? Or is the cpu voltage set to some auto OC mode? I know some motherboards have this "auto OC" function and from what I understand it just cranks voltage and heats things up. So check your voltage settings and make sure there's no performance enhancing settings checked by default (Im not familiar enough with ryzen to suggest proper voltage range). Maybe even try undervolting the vcore a few mV if nothing else works.
 

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My ryzen 1700 IDLE temperature is 50~55C. is this normal temperature?
I've got 1700 as well. I'm using 120 mm AIO now, but while testing L9i and T318 idle was something like 38C and it went to 56C under gaming load, but went further away under synthetic load, something like low 70's

Your temp doesn't look normal for idle.
 
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SoSquidTaste... so if you are wanting to take that 1080 Ti to the limits, you are likely going to have to get creative with options to help get some cooler air in there. I would say proceed with caution if you aren't planning on maxing things out, and if you are, I'd probably suggest waiting for a blower-style. I'd really like to hear other's feedback on this though!
Well put! I guess my main thought is that I'm hitting 100% utilization on my 1080 FE right now when I thought I'd have a little more headroom when running Overwatch Ultra capped at 150FPS. I think the next order of business is to finally sit down and figure out if undervolting will get me back to better boosts-- and therefore hopefully a little less utilization? (Also: finally seeing some price relief in the GPU market (third-party sales) has me thinking twice about switching out cards.)

In case anyone else out there is running a recent open-air card, my biggest question regards experience with the card saturating the CPU area with "collateral" hot air. I know some benchmark videos showed that back around release, but am wondering if folks are seeing to what degree that same situation plays out in their actual, factual builds.
 

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just testing L9i with NF-F12 IPPC 3000-PWM.. i want to mod the fan to fit in.. temps is good but the noise too damn high :depressed:
Is the fan too close to the case? That is usually the cause of excessive noise. Noctua has the 15mm thick 120mm fan now. But it is worth taking into consideration that most of the air a fan moves comes from the tips of the blades. So using a 120mm fan moves more air but the bulk of that air is being pushed around the perimeter of the heatsink, not through the fins like an appropriate sized fan.
 

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Really nice photos :)

I have one question: If you will be using your case in a vertical position (on a stand), are you going to use the plugs we were sending with Sentry?

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I'm asking, because we saw many people who did not use them at all or were using feet instead (the same way you did in first 5 photos), and we were wondering 'why'?
 

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Really nice photos :)

I have one question: If you will be using your case in a vertical position (on a stand), are you going to use the plugs we were sending with Sentry?

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I'm asking, because we saw many people who did not use them at all or were using feet instead (the same way you did in first 5 photos), and we were wondering 'why'?
Thanks! I actually use my sentry in a horizontal position. Vertical was only for photos, otherwise i would have used the covers.
 

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So I haven't kept up with this thread for a while. My initial build in the Sentry was basically just a transplant of the PC I had a the time, and I am finally looking to upgrade. I know early on there were some concerns about space or heat issues with M.2 SSD's mounted on the underside of motherboards. I figured I would ask here to see if anyone with that in there setup has advice on that matter, or if it just blew over.
 

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So I haven't kept up with this thread for a while. My initial build in the Sentry was basically just a transplant of the PC I had a the time, and I am finally looking to upgrade. I know early on there were some concerns about space or heat issues with M.2 SSD's mounted on the underside of motherboards. I figured I would ask here to see if anyone with that in there setup has advice on that matter, or if it just blew over.
I used a thermal pad to connect it to the chassis, which helped a bit. If you are using one of the newer drives (Intel 760p, Samsung 970 and so on), it shouldn't be that big of a problem for normal usage anyway.
I you do stress the SSD a lot, the thermalpad might be a good idea.
 

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I used a thermal pad to connect it to the chassis, which helped a bit. If you are using one of the newer drives (Intel 760p, Samsung 970 and so on), it shouldn't be that big of a problem for normal usage anyway.
I you do stress the SSD a lot, the thermalpad might be a good idea.
Even then you only need a thermal pad on the drive controller, not the NAND chips. NAND actually has better longevity when it's warm (basically less than 60C). The controller is a tiny arm soc so it does prefer being cool, that's where you lose performance if it gets hot.
 

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I used a thermal pad to connect it to the chassis, which helped a bit. If you are using one of the newer drives (Intel 760p, Samsung 970 and so on), it shouldn't be that big of a problem for normal usage anyway.
I you do stress the SSD a lot, the thermalpad might be a good idea.
Hmm, I purchased some M.2 thermal pads from SilverStone and the instructions suggest the pad be placed between the motherboard and the SSD. Because of that it will probably not be thick enough to connect to the chassis. Does anyone think they will still help or will they be uselems?
 

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Hmm, I purchased some M.2 thermal pads from SilverStone and the instructions suggest the pad be placed between the motherboard and the SSD. Because of that it will probably not be thick enough to connect to the chassis. Does anyone think they will still help or will they be uselems?
As Ej24 said you want it on the controller. I added one and temps dropped from 75°C to 31°C. It was a 5mm pad.
 

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Hmm, I purchased some M.2 thermal pads from SilverStone and the instructions suggest the pad be placed between the motherboard and the SSD. Because of that it will probably not be thick enough to connect to the chassis. Does anyone think they will still help or will they be uselems?
Between the ssd and the motherboard? Strange. Fiberglass isn't known for its thermal conductivity haha, probably best to apply thermal pads between the ssd and the steel of the case if possible with your system.
 

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I ran a few searches in thread and was curious if anyone has more recent experience with running a non-blower GPU in their Sentry. I'm strongly considering jumping on a decent deal to trade out my 1080 Founders Edition for a 1080Ti SC Black (I've got 1440P @ 144Hz in my sights short-term).
I have the EVGA 1080TI SC2 you will be perfectly fine if you have a decent CPU cooler.


We just noticed that we never (directly) wrote here that we are moving the project to the next revision.

More information about SENTRY 2.0 you can find here:
https://hardforum.com/threads/sentry-2-0-evolution-of-console-sized-gaming-pc-case.1957662/


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This is great! Thanks for linking it. I just found out. I left some of my comments there from my experience with the sentry.
 

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So I haven't kept up with this thread for a while. My initial build in the Sentry was basically just a transplant of the PC I had a the time, and I am finally looking to upgrade. I know early on there were some concerns about space or heat issues with M.2 SSD's mounted on the underside of motherboards. I figured I would ask here to see if anyone with that in there setup has advice on that matter, or if it just blew over.
Non issue.
My Samsung 960 M.2 is sitting on the back of the mobo and it's been fine, no thermal pads or any of that nonsense.
 

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Out of curiosity how many people have an 8700K in Sentry? Obviously delidding is a must. How many people are thinking of a monster cpu like 8700k or 2700x?

I'm starting to get the itch to rebuild my z97 based i7-4790K system and obviously I want to go overkill. So just curious to know what I can expect.
 
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Ej24

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Oh and by the way, in case anyone is looking to add 2TB of sata ssd storage in their Sentry system, this has caught some peoples attention. Its the Micron version of the MX300 from their consumer brand Crucial. You can find it on ebay and amazon. I know with the space constraints of working with SFF cases, finding anything in 2.5in form factor more the 1TB can be difficult even with old spinning HDDs. Just thought I'd share with the Sentry group in case you guys haven't seen this deal.
 

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Hey everyone, anyone selling a black sentry? Im thinking about modding to add liquid cooling on this rig.
 

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Hey everyone, anyone selling a black sentry? Im thinking about modding to add liquid cooling on this rig.
Wait for 2.0 if you want to go liquid cooling. In my modded 1.1/prototype it's quite tough job to fit AIO and it required A LOT of modding. Changes in 2.0 are significant and quite important for water cooling support.
 

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Wait for 2.0 if you want to go liquid cooling. In my modded 1.1/prototype it's quite tough job to fit AIO and it required A LOT of modding. Changes in 2.0 are significant and quite important for water cooling support.
I am following Sentry 2.0 thread now but I dont think I can wait for another year or two before pre-order unless your planning to have crowd funding this year?
 

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I am following Sentry 2.0 thread now but I dont think I can wait for another year or two before pre-order unless your planning to have crowd funding this year?
Yes, we are planning crowdfunding this year. Currently we are aiming with crowdfunding campaign at the mid or the end of Summer.
 

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Yes, we are planning crowdfunding this year. Currently we are aiming with crowdfunding campaign at the mid or the end of Summer.
That would work! wow this is great news! Please also list the appropriate 92mm aio for this set up so we can prepare. Are you planning to ship this year as well?
 

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Please also list the appropriate 92mm aio for this set up so we can prepare. Are you planning to ship this year as well?
AfaiR there is only one asetek 92 mm AIO and it is significantly thicker than what we can support because of 92 mm fan diameter. We are going to support 120 mm AIO with thickness of radiator + fan up to around 50 mm, but there are more variables here than simply this and we will make support list and fitting reference after we get to test how this works with prototypes. If you want to discuss this further, it would be good to go to the thread about 2.0 here: https://hardforum.com/threads/sentry-2-0-evolution-of-console-sized-gaming-pc-case.1957662/
 
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