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I'm not super familiar with that program so I'll say games in this context.
I'm waiting until 7nm cards but I'm curious what clocks are held in current hardware.![[H]ard|Forum](/styles/hardforum/xenforo/logo_dark.png){kind=logo}
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I'm waiting until 7nm cards but I'm curious what clocks are held in current hardware.I'm not super familiar with that program so I'll say games in this context.
Here is a 20 minute run of BF1. BF1 runs really well in terms of clock speed. Superposition bench for example hangs around 1690-1700mhz. Just depends on load.
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I'm going to necro this thread for a bit, as I am a new Vega 64 owner after the recent Newegg sale. I am looking into purchasing the Rajintek Morpheus II Vega Edition aftermarket heat sink (once it is available) to replace the stock heat sink/blower fan, as it runs way too hot and loud for my liking. I keep running into information around tech forums that mention a "hot spot" temperature, but I have yet to find any concrete information about what this is referring to. Can anyone clarify that for me? It seems to be effected by how well the heat sink is mounted to the board (amount of thermal paste, clamping pressure, etc.). Is there a ceiling I should watch out?
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With full block WC'ing, my trio of highly clocked cards usually see the hot spot temp about 7C north of the GPU temp reading. You really need to undervolt the card and crank that HBM speed up. I have tested dozens of VEGAs, and if you have Samsung ram you should be able to hit 1050~1100Mhz with good cooling. As a general rule you want to keep your HBM temps under 70C, as that is where things will get wonky. You should never get that hot with just gaming, but VEGA loves that 563 GB/s of memory bandwidth that 1100mhz clocks provide.
I would try setting my Vcore to 1.15V, and the power limit to 50%. That should give you a very good boost speed with decent power draw. Once you are sure that is stable, then set "mem voltage" to 850mV. The thing with VEGA is that "mem voltage" does not actually control the memory voltage. It is the minimum GPU voltage. Tweak this down as low as possible, (and you can take your core voltage down to 1.055V if you have a good undervolting card), and you will have 1080 performance at ~60% of a stock VEGAs power draw.
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I just saw this..You are running your HBM @ 1180?!? I would imagine the ECC is kicking in, unless you got a gold sample. Just so we know, if you drop your HBM to ~1125/1150, does the score change at all? I have run mine as high as 1125, but I WC my cards. I do not like seeing the HBM temp @ 50C, so I am scared to see how hot yours is getting. I suppose if you are just doing it for benchmarks that is a different story.
no thats the p7 clock/voltage. HBM is only ran at 1050 now. I've revised my P7 states since then. They are 1717 @ 1160 vcore. I don't have a golden sample.
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no thats the p7 clock/voltage. HBM is only ran at 1050 now. I've revised my P7 states since then. They are 1717 @ 1160 vcore. I don't have a golden sample.
Oh I figured I had to be reading that wrong!! Are you maintaining the set clock speed (1717) or is it coming in below?
Neslepax , glad you found your card!
Oh, I already have the card. I got that from Newegg during their $400 sale a week ago. The Morpheus II is an aftermarket cooler that was recently tweaked to be more directly compatible with the Vega 64 edition of cards. It only recently came in stock.
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I meant cooler! Had a brain fart lol. Let us know how it works out for you. Have you removed a VEGA heatsink before?
It hovers around 1695-1705 depending on the load.
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Is there a guide somewhere to show how to manually set P states? New Vega here also. I've been reading that setting the power to +50% and then undervolting yields the best balanced (lower power draw and higher performance than stock), but the only thing I looked in is afterburner and it doesn't let me adjust voltage.
There might be one in the last 22 pages of this thread. I didn't look through every one.
There might be one in the last 22 pages of this thread. I didn't look through every one.
Not a Vega 64 variant, no. But I have done water cooling on my rig in previous years with both Nvidia and ATI cards. I know there is going to be a lot of pressure on that back plate retention bracket when I unscrew it.
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Air cooled? That is actually very good for a stock 64 with the 120mm AIO and those voltages. I did get really lucky with my cards, but I WC them all and VEGAs love that super low temperatures. That is the real reason all my cards will do over 1700~1800 sustained. I have never tested all of them under gaming since I have so many, but I wish I had been able to test them all first. Thankfully I got lucky and Cross-fire (if I even needed it) is basically dead in most modern stuff. I do enjoy playing GTA-V with Natural Vision and every slider in the menus all the way up and it being a buttery smooth experience. I need to get Strange Brigade so I can try some 4K X-fire when I get my new tv in a few weeks.
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DO not worry about P states with modern drivers. Set your P6/P7 in Wattman and enjoy your games. I use Wattman even on my mining rigs and it works just fine.
Oh its V64 Liquid model. I play a lot of BFV now. Runs great!
i have a new vega64 as well, but i want to lower power usage and core temps, while leaving core speeds around stock as i see no need to OC the card at this time. in BF4 i run @ 75HZ and the card doesnt hardly use all the processing power, usually around 70-85% for me, so i see no need to OC it for now, but would like to run at a slower speed for less noise.
wattman says it pulls around 210watts max for me and temps rarely go over 75C
can i just lower core voltage ?
Yea you could. Do you have the reference card? Lower it by like .1v to 1100mv for p7 also to 1050mv for p6, reduce votlage next to HBM to 1000mv. leave everything on auto. Check to see how that works. Might sustain boost clocks better as well. If you have stability issue just up the power meter to +15% or so and try again. Either way it should reduce your wattage. But 1100mv on p6 and p7 should reduce the voltage
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Does it carry over if you install new drivers? I am new to using Wattman
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I just keep a copy of my wattman profiles just in case...If you use the AMD install, it works fine. If DDU, then it deletes the AMD folder so you will have to copy and paste it back in.
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I'm not sure if I'm just blind or how I didn't notice, but that red line of LEDs on the Vega reference card is a bar that seems to show GPU usage (or maybe power usage?).
I did see them before, but I guess I didn't make the connection. Pretty cool feature actually.
I did see them before, but I guess I didn't make the connection. Pretty cool feature actually.
I am pretty sure that strip of LEDs corresponds directly to how many P states are being used at any given time. I could be wrong on this.
Welllll I’ve joined the Vega 64 club. Reference model.
The blower noise isn’t that bad, yeah it gets loud but I’m rather unphased by it. Hell my furnace blower is just as loud in the living room. Did a little undervolting and small OC that’s stable. Haven’t dialed in a Max OC yet without hitting hard locks. With my style of patience probably won’t.
Today FINALLY got my freesync monitor(Samsung C27HG70) delivered. (5 days late) Didn’t know it was delivered until 5:30 hours later so I only played around a little bit instead of all day. 144HZ Doom is pretty fucking sweet though. More games need to use Vulkan. Tomorrow will be a evening of high hertz Hitman 2.
The blower noise isn’t that bad, yeah it gets loud but I’m rather unphased by it. Hell my furnace blower is just as loud in the living room. Did a little undervolting and small OC that’s stable. Haven’t dialed in a Max OC yet without hitting hard locks. With my style of patience probably won’t.
Today FINALLY got my freesync monitor(Samsung C27HG70) delivered. (5 days late) Didn’t know it was delivered until 5:30 hours later so I only played around a little bit instead of all day. 144HZ Doom is pretty fucking sweet though. More games need to use Vulkan. Tomorrow will be a evening of high hertz Hitman 2.
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Yeah. I tested DOOM on 166Hz and I've never seen anything smoother in my life. Definitely agree on more games needing Vulkan, it works really well.
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Until we see more examples of great tuning, I'd say we need to see more games using id engines using Vulkan.
And I have no idea why Bethesda bought id, given that they seem to have no interest in the engine IP...
I’m not even sure they license idTech 6 out. I know they didn’t license 5. It’d be awesome if they did and it gained good traction, but I’d just settle for more Bethesda properties using it. Hell, Prey used CryEngine even. Used it very well but it’s still not idTech 6.
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How far is anyone else pushing a single Vega 64? I have a custom cooler/pcb gigabyte pushing 3 x 1080p eyefinity.
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I'm running 4K on a 55" TV, but with 2 Vega 64s.
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I actually swapped my Reference Vega 56 (That has the Vega 64 bios flashed to it) into my computer with an overclocked Ryzen 2600 at 4.1 GHz. I have a 27 inch 1080p MSI 144hz VA panel monitor on this computer. I have a 4k Samsung 43 inch TV on the main computer but, surprisingly, I found it to be too big to game on and did not really bother. (Still have it, just do other stuff on it instead of gaming.)
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Looking forward to playing around with a 64 once it arrives (Newegg shipping FedEx SmartPost can eat me.)
Anyone know if the Sapphire Vega 64 uses the reference board? Also, does the Vega have any issues with duplicating or extending the desktop, like always running 100% or generating extra heat? I have two Samsung C32HG70s (plus one other with the same panel) I may want to use sometimes for the extra space, but not at the cost of extra power use and heat.
Anyone know if the Sapphire Vega 64 uses the reference board? Also, does the Vega have any issues with duplicating or extending the desktop, like always running 100% or generating extra heat? I have two Samsung C32HG70s (plus one other with the same panel) I may want to use sometimes for the extra space, but not at the cost of extra power use and heat.
Ha irony. The fedex smartpost arrived very quickly for me compared to just straight fedex.
I’m almost positive that the Saphirre is 100% reference. Don’t know about extended desktop stuff though.
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Waiting too.. Blower one is reference board with sammy HBM, mine was pretested and undervolted a little better than most cards on that reference cooler, good hot spot temp delta (small delta).. so good luck. Heard it can be pretty efficient driving monitors when undervolted I think it depends on refresh rate also.
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I'm pretty happy with how my Vega 56 has performed since I've had it. Never OC'ed, just ran bone stock for maximum stability. I wanted to give Vega a try but since I bought it during the mining craze, the 64s were just too crazy expensive.
It's currently in my HTPC (driving my 65" 4k OLED TV) so I don't really game on it too often mostly just streaming things now and then. It's getting way less use than I had originally planned as my TV's smart apps have taken over 99% of the HTPC duties. I'm thinking of recycling the parts into another PC build over winter.
It's currently in my HTPC (driving my 65" 4k OLED TV) so I don't really game on it too often mostly just streaming things now and then. It's getting way less use than I had originally planned as my TV's smart apps have taken over 99% of the HTPC duties. I'm thinking of recycling the parts into another PC build over winter.
If you feel adventurous plenty of people have had luck with flashing the Vega 64 bios onto Vega 56 for increases in performance, and higher memory overclocking potential. Requires Samsung HBM though I believe.
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This is the first thing a 56 owner with Samsung RAm should do (after verifying stability with a burn in test @ stock speeds first). Taking HBM to 950 just offers so much more performance. Cool it, and give it 563GB/sec (HBM @ 1100Mhz) and it is even better. I wish all you fellow owner could see it's performance @ 1750~1800Mhz with 1100mhz HBM. It is an entirely different class of product.
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Got mine installed.....Seems to have Samsung memory so im happy with that. What i got to do to undervolt it?
This thing can really throw out some heat when running full throttle lol.....but at least it is blown outside the case
This thing can really throw out some heat when running full throttle lol.....but at least it is blown outside the case
Got mine installed.....Seems to have Samsung memory so im happy with that. What i got to do to undervolt it?
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This thing can really throw out some heat when running full throttle lol.....but at least it is blown outside the case
I halfway used this https://www.red dit.com/r/Amd/comments/71978a/psa_lazy_mans_guide_to_tweaking_your_gpu_rx_vega/ (how the fuck do you link to reddit with out it embedding a fucking annoying ass huge post?!)
Basically it's just fiddle fucking about with fan settings and lowering the voltage for the last two power states until you approach the lowest you can get without crashing.
That guide recommends the Overdriventool, I couldn't get that to cooperate and just went with Wattman inside AMDs own drivers. 1050/1100 mV with a modest OC, and 1020 on the memory clock.
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