At this point it makes no sense to pay for a used card that will get you the same rasterization performance of a new card. Warranty does matter and a new card will have a longer warranty than a used card. So save money by buying used and a limited time warranty or go new and be able to replace the card via RMA much farther in the future. Also, if you are a person who likes to resell their stuff then the 20XX series will retain value better.
With that said I would buy an RTX 2080 if I was you.
With all due respect to the warranty argument, I have used maybe 60-75 different video cards over the past 18 years. I have had exactly 1 fail within the warranty period, and then I played a fuck fuck game with Sapphire over getting a working card back. Out of the others, the only other one that completely failed outside of warranty was a 7 year old HP OEM card that had terrible cooling. I'm not saying that you won't have bad luck, but if you keep your cards cool, don't do silly things with them in terms of overclocking or a fan profile that leaves it at 90C+ while gaming for hours on end, etc. you likely will never have reason to use the warranty within the useful lifespan of the card. Buy a card with some time left on a serial number based warranty from a reputable seller, and test it to make sure it works fine while you're in your warranty period.
As for resale, you either save the money now or save it later. Unless you're getting a RTX 2080 for sub $600 (unlikely as I just checked on NE and the cheapest one was $699+Tax), you can save money now by getting similar performance out of a used 1080Ti (~$500-550 depending on the model). Plus, it's tough to say what the resale of the RTX series is going to be given the comparable performance to Pascal. I saw a guy this week in FS/FT who can't sell his RTX 2060 at $275.
A lot of the 1080ti's floating around we're bought in 2018. 2 years warranty on a 1080ti for $500ish ain't bad.At this point it makes no sense to pay for a used card that will get you the same rasterization performance of a new card. Warranty does matter and a new card will have a longer warranty than a used card. So save money by buying used and a limited time warranty or go new and be able to replace the card via RMA much farther in the future. Also, if you are a person who likes to resell their stuff then the 20XX series will retain value better.
With that said I would buy an RTX 2080 if I was you.
Ok, some real advice. I would get a 1080 ti if you can but don't spend a penny more that $450. And yes, you can do this. I just bought PNY blower 1080 ti for $400 and a EVGA dual fan 1080 ti for $450. A month ago I bought a 1070 ti for $300.
Hit up craigslist and or Facebook Marketplace a week prior to the 1st, end of the month and start hitting up dudes. Do not stick around and negotiate ... tell them you have $450 cash and that's it and that would be your final offer. Don't go back and forth with him. Just keep checking your messages to see if he agrees. Most people have bill pressure at the end / start of the month. You can play off peoples financial fears easily.
Again, don't negotiate ... I've been doing this for nearly 30 years. People will talk themselves into taking less. Trust me. Silence is a great tool.
Just sit this generation out.
I think the newer cards at the end of this year if there are any or in 2020 will be a lot more affordable from nVidia .... AMD still has a lot of issues with their performance, even their new stuff coming out, benchmarks have been leaked and it's really only about as fast as a 1080 Ti the internet is saying .... but this was to be expected.
I have the 2080 ti and fukking love it but the $1300 to me is probably like $100 to most guys so if you have the cash, get the 2080 and don't look back .... and forget about ever using it for RT. ... that's not going to take off for a few more years save the handful of occasional titles.
Also, you young guys don't know this yet but don't waste a lot of time debating or doubting, just do it. You're covered with warranty and in the grand scheme of things, money can be replaced. You're going to be ok no matter what you do.
There are a lot of AMD fanboi's and nVidia have-nots that are playing up the higher cost of these cards along with the space invaders bullshit. Ignore them. They are talking a lot of shit .... that's all you're hearing.
Get yourself a blazing ass video card and throw up middle fingers to everyone else behind you.
And sorry if I sound condescending ... it's not that at all. The older you get a lot less time you want to spend on something especially talking about it. I just cut to the point. Try it.
LOL yeah, he blathers constantly. He even went on once about how he uses Microcenter as a rental program on new card launches, buying a ref card then returning it a few weeks later once the custom cards hit and buying that as his real purchase. Slimey and arrogant.I don't think you're very sorry about sounding condescending because you do it in every thread. The "$1300 to me is probably like $100 to most guys" takes the cake though.
Yeah I never thought the 2070 was a good but. But for sure with the 2060 it's worse.Honestly you should be asking RTX2060 or RTX2080.
The 2060 has seriously dented the value proposition of the 2070.
If you want hardware RTX. Ask if you're looking for decent performance on a budget or you want balls-to-the-wall performance.
It's almost that simple.
LOL yeah, he blathers constantly. He even went on once about how he uses Microcenter as a rental program on new card launches, buying a ref card then returning it a few weeks later once the custom cards hit and buying that as his real purchase. Slimey and arrogant.
Rental program? Those aren't my words. Probably a "have-nots" ... sounds about right. I swear to god you make me laugh so hard every single time. I love it. Almost spit out my milk. Please. more content from you. I'm def a subscriber.
For Turing or 20 series cards I would either wait to see if the failure rate has dropped off or buy a Vega VII. Looking at .1% and 1% numbers the Vega VII is the superior card over the 2080 and at times even better than the 2080 Ti. Plus if more Ray Tracing use of Turing in games and past games come around, Turing would look interesting. Other than that a used 1080 Ti maybe the best bet overall.
I am trying to buy one or the other, but I am reading a lot of negative comments about the 20xx Series. What is everyone's take on these cards?