This doesn't even make sense. Are you saying there is a scenario that exists in the real world that would make an out of the box GTX 560 significantly faster than a 6970, that I could easily replicate for my own benefit? Why spend $400 on a graphics card when I could magically extract better performance from a $200 card that is only about 75% as fast in benchmarks across the board!
lol @ the flat pipe texture. Must be some inefficient plumbing in that bitch on second glance, those look like cables, point still stands though
So is the game itself bad or is it the bugs and glitches that are making it bad.. and once fixed the game will be good? I pre ordered the game on Steam but I didn't pre-load and I'm thinking of using my "one time only per account" refund on Rage... unless there is actually a good game here once the problems are ironed out.
http://www.freakygaming.com/gallery/action_games/doom_3/outdoors.jpg vs http://pcformat.techradar.com/files/pcf_content/2011/Jan/rage3_2.jpg yup he definitely set us back 5-10 years
Sigh. PC-only gamer, ex-member of the cult of Carmack. Been playing less games over the last 2-3 years, but I saw the Rage demo at PAX East in March, and it got me pumped up for this... sad to hear that it's such a disappointment. Keyboard + Mouse FOREVER! Gamepads NEVER!
You've got to remember that most of the people posting have pre-ordered the game and have high expectations for their $60. This is a game that was made for the consoles and lets face it ID isn't known for their storylines and what not. I hear that the game is actually fun, just not fifty or sixty dollars worth. I'll pick the game up once it hits $20. By then the bugs will be fixed too.
Accept the game doesnt actually look that good outside, at least not for me ^ Using the recent "fixes" too
Why would you infer such a thing? That's retarded. Real life gameplay differs from canned benchmarks, even shitty sites like THG have shown this.
I can't believe I'm wasting my breath here ... I'm sure this troll won't read a thing I have to say ... but I'm going to do it anyway. Gee, really - id software is a business? They're in business to make money? Next I suppose you'll tell me that the Pope is *gasp* Catholic! Thank everything holy we have your sheer genius around to point this out to us. Meanwhile, there are plenty of companies that make money selling just PC games, and more still that can make games that work on PC @ release, and still look good on PC (ex: Deus Ex: HR) and release them on 360/PS3 too. Point me to a game engine that "works on everything" - you can't. Smartphones/tablets are not yet at the point where games can just be ported to them as you would to/from PC: the engine has to be at least heavily modified, performance isn't there, plus interface/control issues. Show me any game released on phones and consoles and PCs. Ignorance FTW. Sure, people will complain that their favorite platform (PC) doesn't get the love it used to. I see more people just complaining that Rage sucks, and that id can't make a game worth $60 with six freaking years of dev time. Gee, thanks for signing up to contribute absolutely nothing to this thread and to the [H]. Just because you don't understand why people are upset and/or can't empathize does NOT mean that mean that upset peeps have "warped" worldviews. People here are dedicated PC gamers and it frosts them to see their favorite format being given the big fat middle finger by long revered PC developer id. If you had a point here, it didn't make it. The state of Rage upon release is simply unacceptable for a $60 game, even if it doesn't crash. So, wait - it's OK to complain about the game now? Proof that you are an idiot. Kyle does not need his $60 back (even though he deserves it), he personally/the site can afford it. He's making a point: if you pay $60 for a game from a major publisher, you should expect it to work (at least reasonably) well on day one, not to half-work by modifying cvars on day five. First off, there were 15 pages when you posted, not 30. We're not asking id to "support our audience" - we're asking them to make a decent freaking game that works as it should, and we gave them six years to do it. We're passionate, not vitriolic, and asking for a decent game on PC (from a PC developer no less!) is not unreasonable. If you don't like PC gaming fans, go somewhere else. It's the "we don't give a shit" console kiddies that give us crap games like this in the first place. PC gamers are smart enough not to buy them.
Same email address as yours Kyle. Thank you for addressing your concerns about RAGE. We're currently working with AMD and Nvidia to update drivers. This should make your gameplay experience more enjoyable. For updates, keep an eye on our official forums <forums.bethsoft.com> and Bethesda Blog <www.bethblog.com> Thank you for playing our games My reply to their reply Please address my request for a refund, this game is awful in every way. Drivers are not going to fix a shoddy design. My $3000 gaming rig looks like a $250 Console... I'm very unhpapy. The game as a whole, from design to gameplay is awful.
I really believe in this case (unlike Crysis 2), high res textures will improve the immersion of the game. Currently there is such a discrepency between textures that it takes away from the game. I am going to have to try that 8k texture fix when I get home. The gunplay is good (which is why I am playing it). The story is standard id. Animations are superb. The AI I have run across is really good. Graphically the game may not have all the tricks a lot of current engines have but it still can produce some pretty damned nice visuals (despite the textures).
And when they patch it to fix the problems you are having, you'll find more problems, bugs, glitches, bad code, 50 other damn things to complain about. It happens every time, with every game. For example, Alice: Madness Returns. There are STILL people complaining about the umbrella being bugged claiming they can't proceed through the game. If they had played for more than 3 seconds before hopping on a forum somewhere raising ten kinds of hell and actually tried, they'd have realized you can beat the boss without using the umbrella to deflect shots back at him. Matter of fact, I just beat the game about 3 hours ago and never got a chance to even use the umbrella...I forgot all about it. I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with Rage, but every game that comes out now people try to act like it's another Daikatana 5 minutes after release before the devs even get a chance to patch it. And if it doesn't end up being fixed, you should have saved your money and waited for reviews first. The lesson here is buyer beware, you failed, and now you're pissed.
My question is, on the pc version, why were LOW RES textures even considered? Why didn't they expect that level of backlash and think that "oh by the way we'll release a high res texture pack for pc later on" would be sufficient? When you do things RIGHT the first time, you won't get this level of backlash.
I don't recall Doom 3 textures being that crisp...I think maybe there's a texture mod at work, there.
John Carmac was once quoted saying " The game will be released when it's done " I guess medium rare qualifies as done.
Can someone please send this comparative Doom3 vs. RAGE screen to Mr. Carmack? If he has ANY passion for real time technology left in him, he should be more than embarrassed and punish his artists, ADs and Project Managers by making them go back to work and fix this travesty.
i looked at the two pics and thought "what are they talking about? its not great, but it definitely looks better than the other image. far from backward progress." and then i saw that the one i thought was quake was actualy rage. omg.
Worse, you get two options: Resolution and AA. That's it. Oh and you can choose to use the left over 90%(exaggeration) of your video cards power and use the video card to transcode if your CPU is a little lacking(older dual cores).
Really, people will complain no matter what? I'm shocked. Did you see this kind of hatred towards Deus Ex: HR? I don't think so. Sure, there may have been complaints (there always will be), but most people were happy with the game. There will always be complaints, but that's no reason to put your fingers in your ears and stop listening. I guess no one should complain about anything as long as you personally think something is fine? That doesn't make sense either. There will always be complaints, that's no reason to write all complaints off. Disclaimer: I'm not interested in Rage, game on a PC, and play games on consoles.
Deus Ex looks good? This is news. Nice environments, sure, but the characters are ugly as hell and don't even compare favorably to HL2 characters on account of the plastic Uncanniest Valley facial animation. Unreal Engine 3 runs on quite a few different platforms and has the games out to prove it. I see a lot of shit about flickering textures, the lack of detail settings, and the inability to bring up a console without tweaking the command line (hmmm I think you had to change the command line to bring up the console in Half Life). Not too much about the gameplay - barely anything about the gameplay, come to think of it. I'm offended you guys call yourselves PC gamers. Making a point a business would listen to - showing a video of the texture pop-in, warning potential buyers about the risk you are taking. Linking to a hateful thread on your own forum, with a screenshotted post of you asking for your money back when you have literally no right to do so? You are going to get ignored. User Control Panel. Its right up there. Check out some of those settings... Again, I'm offended you call yourself a PC gamer. I've been PC gaming since I was old enough to spell. You are graphics whores seeking validation for all those thousands of dollars you dumped into your rigs. I bought X-Com UFO Defense when it was brand new and have played through it once every year since then. Are modern games, with the 1080p and the HDR and the SSAO and 5.1 surround sound with the fully orchestrated soundtracks any more involving or immersive or significantly more fun than this old ass game that only runs in 320x200 and has pixel art that was substandard even by 1994's standards? Nope.
Seriously, if you think we are complaining "at the drop of a hat".... Please go sit on a greased traffic cone and give in to your true desires.
IGN begs to differ with the general consensus here. "Graphics 9.5: One of the best looking games ever made, assuming you can get it running smoothly." http://pc.ign.com/articles/119/1197974p2.html Not that it´s my go to site for anything but release dates. All I can say; they must be freaking blind, bought or scared to hand out a 9.5
It's unfortunate that the once flag bearer of PC gaming and technology in general can no longer be bothered to produce a polished PC product. However Id hasn't been relevant for years, I would argue that many other developers are more important to PC gaming and indeed gaming in general. Basically I'm saying its just another FPS and the company behind it hasn't been special for many years. While iD will always have a place in my heart, they really don't have a place on my hard drive anymore.
That just makes me think those guys were not looking at the same thing we are seeing on PC. Have not seen the console version.
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