I'm sure Ockie will start Galaxy 5.0. Perhaps he already started and will tell us at a later date
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I'm sure Ockie will start Galaxy 5.0. Perhaps he already started and will tell us at a later date
brasherman
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I thought my power was low yesterday!!! Stop draining me lines, Ockie!
"1.21 Jiggawatts"
FrEaKy
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thats so lame LOL
Ockie, I thought I saw your Galaxy 4.0 on Ebay?!? $20,000 whats up?
Ockie, I thought I saw your Galaxy 4.0 on Ebay?!? $20,000 whats up?
I'm sure Ockie will start Galaxy 5.0. Perhaps he already started and will tell us at a later date
I thought my power was low yesterday!!! Stop draining me lines, Ockie!
"1.21 Jiggawatts"
thats so lame LOL
Ockie, I thought I saw your Galaxy 4.0 on Ebay?!? $20,000 whats up?
Haha, man you guys and your rumors.
Anyways, does anyone know if Mountain Mods makes custom cases?
Haha, man you guys and your rumors.
Anyways, does anyone know if Mountain Mods makes custom cases?
I had talked to them a coulpe of years ago about modifications to thier cases. They seemed pretty cool, and were willing to work with me to get what I needed. I ended up not going with them, but they did seem like they don't mind doing custom work.
I suspect that it won't be cheap.
brasherman
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In all actuality, I would love to see you hook up a kill-a-watt meter and tell us what that thing draws for amperage. Does it have it's own dedicated 20 amp circuit?
MickeyFinns
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If you go on the MM site they have a case they built for someone which is basically two cubes on top of each other;
They will do anything. If its gonna be full of disks i would got for something like two cubes next to each other as two ontop would have a very high centre of gravity with disks all the way up.
I beg you to hit the 100 hdd barrier would be amazing. And 4 PSU's...
They will do anything. If its gonna be full of disks i would got for something like two cubes next to each other as two ontop would have a very high centre of gravity with disks all the way up.
I beg you to hit the 100 hdd barrier
would be amazing. And 4 PSU's...Yeha I need to get another Killawatt meter soon.
It's just on a 15amp circuit that is shared... I'm not sure how my machines and that is running off there, but I'm not complaining
They are very expensive and the quality they offer is nowhere close to Lian Li's.
If you insist on going MM, make sure you request them to use thicker aluminum and may be a better mobo tray.
I assume the case alone is going to cost close to $2k.
I worked out from their estimates that I am looking north of 2k. With that price, I'd rather look at a 40 drive Multilane rackmount unit solution for $2.5k which includes the trays and has multilane abilities.
I just can't seem to find the right case for me.
I found a friend who runs a laser/water jet cutting shop, they chop sides and stuff for tanks or really any project you want to pay for. He said he can cut case parts for free or next to nothing... basically I just pay for the raw materials.
So this is definitely an option.
If you go on the MM site they have a case they built for someone which is basically two cubes on top of each other;
They will do anything. If its gonna be full of disks i would got for something like two cubes next to each other as two ontop would have a very high centre of gravity with disks all the way up.
I beg you to hit the 100 hdd barrier
Right now I am trying to figure out my objective, the current cube must be raping my power and it's quite heavy + large. Right now I am trying to figure out if I want to go larger in terms of physical space or if I want to concentrate on larger drives and running higher densitiy.
UPDATE:
I saw that the new PC-343 side window is now availible, I think I may just pick it up
You should look at when this project started, and where he got a lot of his drives
Besides, saving power wasn't his objective here. This is a work log after all. Rational things just don't happen here.
jmroberts70
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You should look at when this project started, and where he got a lot of his drives
Besides, saving power wasn't his objective here. This is a work log after all. Rational things just don't happen here.
QFT
1TB drives are out for a while now.
And yes, I'd agree with you. But I can now put in 30 1TB drives in this system.
In the end, you need more physical space to push your capacities.
Also with the current pricing of 89 bucks for 500 gig drives, you can't beat the price to storage ratio. For a 1TB drives current pricing (400 bucks), you are looking at more than 2tb's of 500's of storage, thats the same price for more than twice the storage capacity. This is why having phyiscal space is good.
You should look at when this project started, and where he got a lot of his drives
Besides, saving power wasn't his objective here. This is a work log after all. Rational things just don't happen here.
Yes, many of the drives are from the previous galaxies and I pretty much use them till they die (unless if a new interface came out, eg. IDE to SATA). There is no point in ditching 500 gig drives just so I can say that I have a 1tb drive in its place... unless of course I run out of space really fast.
LOL @ Rational comment.
Right now I am tied up with a large event planning, so no galaxy updates or future happenings just yet.
elektronisch
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Why not run Linux on it using NFS or Samba to connect to your other systems. I'm sure Linux won't have an issue with mapping 30 drives, unless you're limited by the motherboard. I have not had time to read through all these posts.
I've had no problems with Windows 2003 Server yet and I enjoy the operating system. Using mountvol solves the drive letter mapping issues.
Looking for some suggestions.
Galaxy is full with drives, I have a couple slots open that I use to swap drives in and out of the system so when I upgrade the drive sizes, I can do an easy swap or I can do a large dump.
Anyways, I am starting to collect SATA drives as I am replacing them in Galaxy 4.0, so that has me thinking. What should I do next? I am asking you guys as I am at odds with all the options, so I think whatever people chose for me would be a fun route that I could venture in. Keep in mind, regardless of these senarios, galaxy 4.0 would be kept.
OPTION 1: Should I keep replacing drives and toss the replaced drives in a stash, use them as backup drives? Bad in terms of drive use, cheap in terms of other alternatives.
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OPTION 2: Should I build a smaller galaxy and use that for the extra replaced drives, thus creating an old mirror system? Cheap in power consumption since this machine would be switched off for most of its life.
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OPTION 3: Should I build the next generation galaxy and continue to add drives with the older drives? This is the most space option, however, I am stuck in regards to case selections. Nothing is big enough. The largest case I found that would suit my needs is a 48 Drive SATA rackmount unit (5U), I am not sure if I want to venture into rackmount storage systems... however, it's not alternatively a bad thing as the rackmount unit has all Multilane, awesome fan cooling capacities, hot swap trays, 1,400w PSU (3+1 500W Modules), and has a lot of other cool features. This would be the most expensive approach short term (hardware) and the most expensive long term (power consumption)
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OPTION 4: Custom case. I know a waterjet/laser cutting person now that would cut for free if I wanted to undertake such a task (and supply me with alum at cost). This would be the lesser than the above option but an immense task and a massive case. Also the power consumption I would think would be the greatest here as my drive limitation is endless. With the board selection that I have in mind, thats 64 drive capacity. However, I forsee many problems with such a project. I do have a design idea in mind.
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OPTION 5: Sell the replaced drives and use it to fund larger drives. Cheapest option.
Galaxy is full with drives, I have a couple slots open that I use to swap drives in and out of the system so when I upgrade the drive sizes, I can do an easy swap or I can do a large dump.
Anyways, I am starting to collect SATA drives as I am replacing them in Galaxy 4.0, so that has me thinking. What should I do next? I am asking you guys as I am at odds with all the options, so I think whatever people chose for me would be a fun route that I could venture in. Keep in mind, regardless of these senarios, galaxy 4.0 would be kept.
OPTION 1: Should I keep replacing drives and toss the replaced drives in a stash, use them as backup drives? Bad in terms of drive use, cheap in terms of other alternatives.
OR
OPTION 2: Should I build a smaller galaxy and use that for the extra replaced drives, thus creating an old mirror system? Cheap in power consumption since this machine would be switched off for most of its life.
OR
OPTION 3: Should I build the next generation galaxy and continue to add drives with the older drives? This is the most space option, however, I am stuck in regards to case selections. Nothing is big enough. The largest case I found that would suit my needs is a 48 Drive SATA rackmount unit (5U), I am not sure if I want to venture into rackmount storage systems... however, it's not alternatively a bad thing as the rackmount unit has all Multilane, awesome fan cooling capacities, hot swap trays, 1,400w PSU (3+1 500W Modules), and has a lot of other cool features. This would be the most expensive approach short term (hardware) and the most expensive long term (power consumption)
OR
OPTION 4: Custom case. I know a waterjet/laser cutting person now that would cut for free if I wanted to undertake such a task (and supply me with alum at cost). This would be the lesser than the above option but an immense task and a massive case. Also the power consumption I would think would be the greatest here as my drive limitation is endless. With the board selection that I have in mind, thats 64 drive capacity. However, I forsee many problems with such a project. I do have a design idea in mind.
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OPTION 5: Sell the replaced drives and use it to fund larger drives. Cheapest option.
Nicepants42
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These two options are not mutually exclusive. I would recommend both of them.
My first suggestion would be to make a "mini-Galaxy" that you could take to LANs and such. Of course, you could probably supply just about everything a LAN could need with just a couple drives, so that leaves a bunch left over.
I'd suggest selling the old drives and buying new ones. $500GB drives are now around $100, with 750GB drives under $200. This, of course, won't give you an enormous jump in capacity right now, but it's something I figure you'll probably do eventually anyway.
Out of curiosity, what is the current breakdown of drive sizes in Galaxy 4.0?
I'd suggest selling the old drives and buying new ones. $500GB drives are now around $100, with 750GB drives under $200. This, of course, won't give you an enormous jump in capacity right now, but it's something I figure you'll probably do eventually anyway.
Out of curiosity, what is the current breakdown of drive sizes in Galaxy 4.0?
I'm considering them as exclusive
lolLets put it this way, if they were 500's I wouldn't be going anywhere realistically in space.
6 1tb drives would be too small.
I am in the same situation with my fileserver; i currently have 9x320GB 7200.10s in raid 5, and going to upgrade to 10 750GB 7200.10s in raid 5. So i will have a huge amount of extra discs... One thing i thought of: use them for backup, but sort of raid, it is too much 320GB is nothing and filling them would be too time consuming.... So i deciced to sell 3-4 of them to a friend for his raid 5 array.... And going to run 3 of them in raid 0 on the server as a scratch drive...
blairellis
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For the sake of another worklog, I choose option 3
I love seeing your work, the attention to detail is amazing.
I love seeing your work, the attention to detail is amazing.
then get 20 1TB drives!
Option 3 or Option 5
For the sake of another worklog, I choose option 3
I love seeing your work, the attention to detail is amazing.
30 ftw
LOL, I was hoping deep inside you guys would pick the cheapest option.
Problem with 1tb drives are that they are great and everything, but 750's are half the price, meaning 1tb (1 drive) vs 1.5tb (2 drives), to make matters more interesting is that 500's are less than half of the price of a 750, so for the price of 1tb (1 drive), you can have 2tb (4 drives) for a little less in price. This is why physical space is quite important to me.
In the end, I assume spending the little extra for the larger drives would be worth it, but then when the 1.25's come out, then it's all over again. I just wish I can find the end of all cases and be done with it....
Well Ockie, you and I have talked before. I would like to see your system filled with TB drives, but it really isn't cost efficient (aren't computers money pits?
). Go with what you can, we all know that you build insane projects.As for the case, why do you need one? Just make an addition to the house with a separate air conditioner for that room and fill that room with drives.
This is the only 48 drive case I could find: I think there is another one out there, but I can't seem to find it.
Beautiful that is for sure. But man it's going to kill my ears. And HOLY crap it's going to be a big ticket to buy... might have to cache up some drives before I can get myself to spill that many beans.
http://www.rackmountnet.com/Rackmou...1350W-redundant-power-supply-RSC-5D-2Q1-RMC5D
Beautiful that is for sure. But man it's going to kill my ears. And HOLY crap it's going to be a big ticket to buy... might have to cache up some drives before I can get myself to spill that many beans.
http://www.rackmountnet.com/Rackmou...1350W-redundant-power-supply-RSC-5D-2Q1-RMC5D
*reports Ockie for [H]ardware porn*
Do you sleep with your computers in your room? I don't see how you wouldn't have a separate room for something like this.
I have a computer room, except I have to sit near it
Noise and heat is my main worries in life right now, lol, especially with the room up in the 90's around the clock.However, when I do move into my new home, I will be sure to address this issue
A whole project on it's own.unhappy_mage
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This? They've dropped the price from $2/GB to $1.50/GB within the last month. What that tells me is they're preparing to move to 1TB disks. It's apparently noisy, but if you're not in the same room with it it's not too bad.
But I'm with you on the noise and heat bit. Here at work we've got probably 20 machines running 24/7 in a 15'x25' room, with no special air conditioning. It's 85 degrees in here all day, every day.
That one is based on the same case concept, there is another one out there and I'm not sure if it's a limited run or what, but it's basically like an 8 stuffed with drives, I believe it was 48 on the front, two on the rear (system drive trays), something like that for a total of 50 drives. I believe it was a little cheaper too, not 100% sure though.
Anyways, that sun server is indeed impressive, I can't imagine the heat that beast would produce... I might be able to omit the need for a home furnace, just pump air from the computer room!
Haha.EDIT: I've been thinking, and I don't think I am going to go this route, the costs would be incredible... as a person would be insane not to stock the innards with really nice goodies. I think for now I am going to focus on replacing the drives with all 750 and 1tb drives, probably hanging onto a few replaced drives or selling the extra drives on these forums. If push comes to shove, I can always get a cheapass $19 case, stock it with the spare drives and use it as a dump repository, ultimate cheapest cost solution right there. Another factor in this decision was the pure noise these rackmount solutions are going to produce, aslo an incredible amount of heat + power consumption. Right now, galaxy is stable, rock solid, silent, and runs cool and has a current capacity of 30tb using 1tb drives... which is more than i need... and it's not costing me a penny as it is right now.
Right now I am going to order the PC-343B a window (I'm bored okay?!) and perhaps a couple of drives to get this party started.
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