lithium726
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if you read the thread, this is not a problem of the quality BFG has out of hte box when you buy a card. its the quality of their RMA cards.
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if you read the thread, this is not a problem of the quality BFG has out of hte box when you buy a card. its the quality of their RMA cards.
lithium726 said:if you read the thread, this is not a problem of the quality BFG has out of hte box when you buy a card. its the quality of their RMA cards.
then why is the current, fourth card working absolutly fine, with the exception of *MINOR* artifacting in ATItool?Sir-Fragalot said:While I can certainly understand that, I don't believe for a second that they sent you 5 or 6 defective video cards. The odds are overwhelmingly against it. Personally, I think something in your system is killing your cards. This of course needs to be proven, but I think it's reasonable to work under that assumption. Test the cards in another computer for a week and see what happens to them.
vmerc said:.001^5 = 0.000000000000001
That's 1 QUADRILLIONTH or as a percent 1 TEN TRILLIONTH of a percent chance.
Even if the failure rate of the refurbs is higher. Say 1 in 10.... that's .1^5
.1^5 = 0.00001
That's 1 THOUSANDTH of a percent chance of this happening. Possible.....?
Without real failure rates, these are only estimations, and bad ones at that. I really doubt that the refurb failure rate would be as high as 10% or even 1%. What would they even do to refurb a card? Nothing on the board is workable by hand except maybe the VGA connectors. Also consider that refurbs would be tested before they go back out, and they would have to pass every test that a new card does.
revenant said:from all the symptoms he describes, it sounds like the cards are being under powered..
lithium726 said:its an Antec Neopower 480. dual 12v rails, 15/17a. it has powered 6800GT SLI without a problem. it has powered my winchster/6800GT agp system no problem. it powered my Barton/6800GT agp rig no problem. it powered my x2 mancheter/6800GT Agp rig no problem. its powering my x2/6800GT system fine. like i said, the card works fine, minus VERY minor artifacts in ATItool, which ONLY show up in far cry under the guise of flashing textures.
why what?jacuzz1 said:Why?
Which one was that? i'd love to hear the story...lithium726 said:BTW: i think i have one of your 5900U's interesting story behind that one..
lithium726 said:i dont understand how it is not conclusive... card one has a fucked up temp sensor, card two has a bum DVI port and wont post all the time, card three just up and dies for no reason (which didnt happen on any of other ones) while also exhibiting the posting issue. card 4 works great, minus the very minor artifacts, which i dont mind much. it takes nothing away from gameplay.
im sorry, but that sounds like bad video cards. nothing else would cause said issues.
.I'll take the new one and drop it by my old shop and let my old boss have it for a week or two, just to eliminate the whole "my system is killing it" possibilty....
its in detail in post 57Sir-Fragalot said:Well, I am sorry if I missed those symptoms in your previous posts. If that's the case and each card displayed different behavior, that makes alot more sense.
Alias said:The problem is that you are assuming that he will recieve a brand new card. I work in large industry. If a customer sends a damaged unit in, it is replaced with a repaired RMA. We recieved used product, so we send used product. RMA deps in industry cost big money, and are usually understaffed, and overworked. I'm willing to bet he got someone elses returned/bad cards in return.
im not the OP, i was just backin him up with what happened to meRuss said:Q.F.T. All y'all that are saying it's impossible he got 5 cards that were bad, stfu. This man speaks the truth. The OP said they all exibited different symptoms, some being DOA, the lastest one dying after 2 hours of use or so, one smelling burnt before he even put it in his machine, etc.
a couple of the cards were noticably dirty too.
He also mentions he's had the PSU in three different machines over a period of time.
Just out of curiosity, where did you work..Best Buy or CompUSA.
im not the OP, i was just backin him up with what happened to me
I think that all RMA depts boil down to about the same service
All y'all that are saying it's impossible he got 5 cards that were bad, stfu.
1.5v is the proper setting for AGP.Rtstrider said:So now I'm on the phone with tech support.....Now if it was my system the card would just be dead right? Like just shut off, and no artifacting correct? lol.....I mean even in the post on my system is artifacted...Oh and I just dropped of the card at my old pc shop....I told the owner to take it home and use it for 2-3 weeks, and let me know whether it's good or bad...I told him to throw everything he's got at it....So now we'll see if it's my system or what......Oh and as I was on the phone with tech support...It was like magic, because UPS dropped by with another card from BFG...So that's the card I took to the shop....Now my asus board is v 2.something....Don't know if that plays a factor in here or not....So we'll see in the following 2-3 weeks whether something in my system is the culprit or whether it's the card itself....
EDIT: My agp slot was set to 1.5 volts...What's the proper setting? this was the asus default....And yes I've been using an fx5200 in that agp slot, it's a known good agp slot....
im with you. i wanna know NOWmatt fury said:2 or 3 weeks man? WE NEED INSTANT GRATIFICATION!
But seriously, it's either gonna work or it ain't.
Rtstrider said:lol The thing is the ones that died, other than card #3, died after a couple hours of use....So I want my old boss to have it for a couple of weeks and stress test it, with Quake 4, FEAR, maybe even Flight Simulator 2004......Just gaming stuff...Anyone have any gpu burn in links or any higly graphical stuff I could set a loop on or tell him to for a through stress test...And is it possible to set a loop in Aqua Mark 05? (I believe that what it's called.....)
machwireless said:I would scrap Asus all together. They have major compatibilty issues with the big guys in vid cards. I got rid of mine when they had compatibility issues with ATI.
I went through 5 A8V-Deluxes. Scrap AGP and Asus. There isnt much support for AGP anymore anyway.
problems with the A8V Deluxe != ASUS/AGP problems. my 6800GT ran great in my A7N8X Deluxe, and Nvidia/Intel chipsets are much, much better than any Via POS ever was. i would blame the chipset on that board before blaming asus.machwireless said:no. it was the mobo. i got confirm on that from Asus. problems with the A8V Deluxe. Tried em in different rigs and everything. My friend's K8N came DOA. He scrapped Asus after three of those.
and you can frankly go to hell too.
lithium726 said:problems with the A8V Deluxe != ASUS/AGP problems. my 6800GT ran great in my A7N8X Deluxe, and Nvidia/Intel chipsets are much, much better than any Via POS ever was. i would blame the chipset on that board before blaming asus.
ROFLMAO!!!Rtstrider said:Watch this video.... http://www.cheesies.net/videos/bobsaget.wmv .....Now can't we all just get along???
BOB SAGET!!!
I had an ATI 9800 pro. Not an nvidia. now explain that.Lord_Exodia said:I'm gonna have to agree. In Nvidia's readme it even shows How they have to make a workaround for via chipsets AGP support to even run stable on those chipsets. I've had 2 motherboards with Via chipsets KT133A and KT 400 and both caused me nothing but problems. Did Intel after Kt 133A and was happier did Nforce 2 after KT 400 and was happier after as well.
Ok we're getting more than a little bit off topic here. Can we just wait for the results or what?machwireless said:I had an ATI 9800 pro. Not an nvidia. now explain that.
I only made that statement to say that Asus was the problem with my issue. Confirmed by Asus. So I spent 2gees on a rig that is basically still a paper weight until I decide to give up AGP.vmerc said:Ok we're getting more than a little bit off topic here. Can we just wait for the results or what?
That's not directed at you specifically mach.
my 6800GT cuases errors with my Apollo Pro266T board. my GF4 Quadro doesnt.machwireless said:I had an ATI 9800 pro. Not an nvidia. now explain that.