• A Great friend to the HardForum with a great kid that he is trying to get a scholorship to continue his schooling. Please give hime a vote! Only 24 hours left! Thanks.
    If you have an VOTE FOR KEENAN!

Nvidia, AMD, will significantly increase GPU value from next month

erek said:

“AMD Radeon “Gaming” GPUs To Incur Another Price Bump This Quarter, Report States“​

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-gaming-gpus-getting-another-price-bump-this-quarter/
Click to expand...

“AMD Radeon AIBs to Prioritize 8 GB GPU SKUs and Push 10% Price Hike​

by AleksandarK Today, 12:48 Discuss (21 Comments)
According to Chinese Board Channels, a reliable source of GPU news, AMD's add-in board (AIB) partners are preparing for another round of GPU price increases. They also seem to be shifting their product focus toward 8 GB Radeon models. After distributors implemented a 5-10% price adjustment in January, another increase is reportedly planned for February or March, though the exact percentage is not yet known. Board Channels also reports that AMD is expected to prioritize stocking 8 GB SKUs such as the Radeon RX 9060 XT 8 GB and the older RDNA 3-based RX 7650 GRE, rather than the 16 GB SKUs like the Radeon RX 9070 XT. This shift is due to a shortage of GDDR6 memory, which is reducing the profit margins for AIBs without a significant price increase.

Distributors reportedly stocked up after January's price increase, which could lead to uneven availability if resellers hold onto inventory in anticipation of another adjustment. With DRAM prices having risen sharply in recent months, manufacturers are reassessing which memory configurations to produce, favoring 8 GB variants because they are cheaper to manufacture. This shift might also cause some 16 GB parts to become more expensive, narrowing the price gap between AMD and NVIDIA in the midrange market. The earliest effects of these changes are expected to be seen in mainland China, where partners may allocate more volume to 8 GB cards and reduce the output of certain 16 GB GRE and non-GRE models. We are yet to see how it reflects on the Western stores and pricing imposed by retailers like Amazon, Newegg, and others.“
 
DukenukemX said:
I will continue to ignore buying computer parts until the AI bubble properly crashes.
Click to expand...
This is my plan, I may keep an eye out for fairly priced second hand hardware (yes, it does exist if you wait and are fast enough to contact the seller). But TBH, my PC still performs really well and I'm more than satisfied, so I'm in no rush.

EDIT: Just scored an i9-10940X 14C/28T X299 system with MSI X299 Xpower Gaming AC motherboard and 360mm Corsair AIO cooler for a song.
 
Last edited:
So glad I picked up my 5070 Ti just after Christmas, it was slightly above MRSP in my country but now I see the price has gone up a further 25%. I warned all of my buddies that were looking to upgrade but they figured it wouldn't happen so fast - now they are all priced out of the market
 
proman8989 said:
Another price hike for Radeon cards... getting really tired of this trend. Seems like AMD is just following Nvidia's lead now without caring about the budget segment. For anyone curious about how these tech companies actually scale and what Real seed funding amounts look like in the startup world before they become giants, there's some solid info out there. Crazy how much capital flows in while gamers just get stuck with higher bills at the end.

Hope the mid-range market doesnt die out completely or console gaming will be the only choice left soon.
Click to expand...
Console prices and their games are going up, too. No real refuge to be had there.
 
proman8989 said:
Another price hike for Radeon cards... getting really tired of this trend. Seems like AMD is just following Nvidia's lead now without caring about the budget segment. For anyone curious about how these tech companies actually scale and what Real seed funding amounts look like in the startup world before they become giants, there's some solid info out there. Crazy how much capital flows in while gamers just get stuck with higher bills at the end.

Hope the mid-range market doesnt die out completely or console gaming will be the only choice left soon.
Click to expand...
You know those companies have to buy RAM too, right?
 
LukeTbk said:
https://www.costco.com/p/-/sony-pla...636?DM_PersistentCookieCreated=true&langId=-1

ps5 with bluray + 2 controller for $499 that an extra controller better than the original MSRP ($450 digital with 2 controller), while $500 of 2020 is like $620 today...
Click to expand...
PC is so cooked for at least a couple of years.
FrgMstr said:
You know those companies have to buy RAM too, right?
Click to expand...
Don't consoles just download more ram?

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/HRkaET8NB14?si=YUkY6gZD5wSjpvzw
 
proman8989 said:
Another price hike for Radeon cards... getting really tired of this trend. Seems like AMD is just following Nvidia's lead now without caring about the budget segment.
Click to expand...
I think that last time AMD gave number for their gaming segment:

es%2F0a4a4d9c-71fc-4f26-8f2a-91913ca58671_1600x867.png


Not sure if they follow Nvidia (who have a lot of gddr7 issues AMD does not has) it is not like they big margin to play with, they could just following vram pricing force and their own mi-4xx/epyc product family priorities,
 
LukeTbk said:
I think that last time AMD gave number for their gaming segment:

View attachment 784584

Not sure if they follow Nvidia (who have a lot of gddr7 issues AMD does not has) it is not like they big margin to play with, they could just following vram pricing force and their own mi-4xx/epyc product family priorities,
Click to expand...
I personally think AMD is a long term winner, but probably currently over priced in terms of EPS.
 
1.1.2.3.5... said:
I personally think AMD is a long term winner, but probably currently over priced in terms of EPS.
Click to expand...
Hard to say, they are bit expensive vresus Nvidia/broadcomm right now in forward p/e ratio and what not, but they have more room to growth in percentage because of how low they come from I imagine being the logic, I am keeping all of mine for sure, AMD becoming a trillion company in the next 5 years would not be some big surprise.
 
LukeTbk said:
Hard to say, they are bit expensive vresus Nvidia/broadcomm right now in forward p/e ratio and what not, but they have more room to growth in percentage because of how low they come from I imagine being the logic, I am keeping all of mine for sure, AMD becoming a trillion company in the next 5 years would not be some big surprise.
Click to expand...
What's messy is the high flying companies are there because of AI stuff, and it's early days for AI. Who knows, maybe NVidia will turn out to be the 3DFX of the AI era. Early leader, then someone else has a better idea and... splat. It's entirely possible someone could come up with a better way to do AI and all of a sudden all the chip design companies doing AI stuff crash.
 
1.1.2.3.5... said:
I personally think AMD is a long term winner, but probably currently over priced in terms of EPS.
Click to expand...
That depends a lot on x86's future. If AMD can improve their x86 efficiency and performance to the point where ARM is no longer a consideration, then AMD could easily have a dominant position in the market. The future of GPU's is iGPU's, because the cost of low end graphic cards don't make sense economically anymore. Unless something good happens to the economy soon then iGPU's maybe the future of gaming for PC.
 
DukenukemX said:
RTX 5090 owners ran out of kidneys.
Click to expand...

As much as I dislike that prices have gone up, the last time I upgraded from a 4090 to a 5090, I was able to sell my 4090 for enough that the upgrade to a 5090 didn't sting quite so much.

So, the fact that newer GPU's are prohibitively expensive, does kind of have a flipside to it, in that older GPU's last and maintain their value longer. At least at the high end.

I mean, I remember back in the day, where after upgrading your old GPU was practically unsellable. This time I got enough for my 4090, that it defrayed about half the price of the 5090.
 
zandor said:
What's messy is the high flying companies are there because of AI stuff, and it's early days for AI. Who knows, maybe NVidia will turn out to be the 3DFX of the AI era. Early leader, then someone else has a better idea and... splat. It's entirely possible someone could come up with a better way to do AI and all of a sudden all the chip design companies doing AI stuff crash.
Click to expand...
People will argue with me, but I see CPUs in 10 years being more than able to handle running AI models via SIMD and dynamic vector sizing like exist with risc-v ISA. The thing is, the single thread performance bump is getting fractionally smaller each new gen, because there isn't a lot of room there. But you can add more cores and more vector performance with an easier programming model until you're suddenly hitting nearly 2000 TOPs on Zen 10 (or whatever) with just a cpu running pytorch. I know people will think that's crazy, but that is my prediction...toss in HBM and 1gb 3d cache stacks on a 256 core cpu (The Threadripper version) with dual dynamic vector operations per clock and FMA giving you 2 ops per lane of that and 7ghz, and you're probably close to that number...
 
I was gonna buy a 5070 as a replacement for my 3080 and 6800xt but it's price in Canada has increased a lot. While the 9700 non xt is still slightly cheaper. Which is a shame cause I rather use dlss than fsr but I'm still more or less waiting on the nvidia/vulkan fix for linux before I really am wanting to commit.

I on other hand want to grab a cheap 5050 (they are kinda expensive here) in order to Play around with dlss 4.5 upscaling with it, since it's new upscaling is like magic. Shouldn't have any issue running 720p but upscaling to 1440p.
 
1.1.2.3.5... said:
People will argue with me, but I see CPUs in 10 years being more than able to handle running AI models via SIMD and dynamic vector sizing like exist with risc-v ISA. The thing is, the single thread performance bump is getting fractionally smaller each new gen, because there isn't a lot of room there. But you can add more cores and more vector performance with an easier programming model until you're suddenly hitting nearly 2000 TOPs on Zen 10 (or whatever) with just a cpu running pytorch. I know people will think that's crazy, but that is my prediction...toss in HBM and 1gb 3d cache stacks on a 256 core cpu (The Threadripper version) with dual dynamic vector operations per clock and FMA giving you 2 ops per lane of that and 7ghz, and you're probably close to that number...
Click to expand...
I think the separate NPU chip can go away & be merged into CPU but GPU will remain

CPU = low latency
GPU = high throughput

there is need for both. but the programming is much more difficult for a high throughput parallel programming pardigm
 
sepheronx said:
I was gonna buy a 5070 as a replacement for my 3080 and 6800xt but it's price in Canada has increased a lot. While the 9700 non xt is still slightly cheaper. Which is a shame cause I rather use dlss than fsr but I'm still more or less waiting on the nvidia/vulkan fix for linux before I really am wanting to commit.

I on other hand want to grab a cheap 5050 (they are kinda expensive here) in order to Play around with dlss 4.5 upscaling with it, since it's new upscaling is like magic. Shouldn't have any issue running 720p but upscaling to 1440p.
Click to expand...
Your 3080 is better at DLSS 4.5 upscaling than a 5050 would be. It'll take a bigger hit using DLSS 4.5 compared to earlier DLSS versions than a newer card would, but it's far more powerful than a 5050. No need to buy a 50 series card to play with the new DLSS stuff unless you want to play with multi-framegen.
 
zandor said:
Your 3080 is better at DLSS 4.5 upscaling than a 5050 would be. It'll take a bigger hit using DLSS 4.5 compared to earlier DLSS versions than a newer card would, but it's far more powerful than a 5050. No need to buy a 50 series card to play with the new DLSS stuff unless you want to play with multi-framegen.
Click to expand...
Fully aware, but its for testing purposes. As I said, to "play around with"
 
Comixbooks said:
He should just make a 17 minute video showcasing all those toys on the shelf behind him. If all I could afford was a 5050 rtx I would cry.
Click to expand...
I'd be thankful to afford a card at all if that were my only choice. :) Though, I'd do my darnedest to save for a 5060.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Niner
like this

“AMD GPU Prices Rebound Slightly As Demand Drops​

by Cpt.Jank Today, 20:16 Discuss (0 Comments)
It's no secret that GPU prices have skyrocketed lately as a result of increased AI data center demand. This has been especially true for any GPU featuring more than 8 GB of VRAM, like AMD's Radeon RX 9060 and 9070 series. However, while AMD GPUs were previously seen as a viable alternative when NVIDIA GPUs were unaffordable or unavailable, that increased demand resulted in price spikes of up to 40% by December 2025. This is based on Japanese data collected by Gaz:Log, who also found that, since that massive price hike, reduced demand has forced retailers to drop prices for both the RX 9070 XT and RX 9060 XT 16 GB GPUs by as much as 15% and 20% respectively.

Obviously, this is just one market, and it can't be guaranteed that events will play out similarly in other regions, but it is an indication that hardware pricing may be reaching a tipping point, after which we may see prices stabilize or fall slightly in response to reduced demand. It's also worth noting that AMD and NVIDIA have both been rumored to be planning to effectively increase MSRP in early 2026, which would result in price increases of at least 10% across the board. This is on top of a late 2025 price increase of $20-40 on both 8 and 16 GB GPUs.“
 
erek said:

“AMD GPU Prices Rebound Slightly As Demand Drops​

by Cpt.Jank Today, 20:16 Discuss (0 Comments)
It's no secret that GPU prices have skyrocketed lately as a result of increased AI data center demand. This has been especially true for any GPU featuring more than 8 GB of VRAM, like AMD's Radeon RX 9060 and 9070 series. However, while AMD GPUs were previously seen as a viable alternative when NVIDIA GPUs were unaffordable or unavailable, that increased demand resulted in price spikes of up to 40% by December 2025. This is based on Japanese data collected by Gaz:Log, who also found that, since that massive price hike, reduced demand has forced retailers to drop prices for both the RX 9070 XT and RX 9060 XT 16 GB GPUs by as much as 15% and 20% respectively.

Obviously, this is just one market, and it can't be guaranteed that events will play out similarly in other regions, but it is an indication that hardware pricing may be reaching a tipping point, after which we may see prices stabilize or fall slightly in response to reduced demand. It's also worth noting that AMD and NVIDIA have both been rumored to be planning to effectively increase MSRP in early 2026, which would result in price increases of at least 10% across the board. This is on top of a late 2025 price increase of $20-40 on both 8 and 16 GB GPUs.“
Click to expand...
There's a limit to how much you can increase prices before consumers give up buying.
 
aldamon said:
I notice Best Buy suddenly has plenty 5070 TI in stock but $1000. Wonder how long they'll sit on them?
Click to expand...
If new cards don't come out until 2028 I suspect they'll sell all of them soon enough.
 
DukenukemX said:
Foreclosure rates have jumped up by 32% compared to last year. I think we're in a recession.
Click to expand...
That last year comp was historically really low

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DRSFRMACBS

Foreclosure activity inches closer to pre-pandemic 2019 levels​

ResiClub PRO | Back in Q4 2021, U.S. foreclosure activity was 88% below pre-pandemic (Q4 2019) levels. By Q4 2025, foreclosure activity was just 18% below those pre-pandemic levels.​


DukenukemX said:
Credit card debt is wild right now.
Click to expand...
Not particularly, headline never adjust for inflation, population growth and credit cards usage (as cash disapear more and more), like the stock market nothing special for everyday to be the highest new record seasonnaly adjusted in credit card debt (in non-inflation adjusted, non population growth adjusted and non transaction volume growth adjusted, of course, why everyday until tomorrow not be a new record, that would be special)

Consumer debt relative to income are still below pre 2020 rate:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CDSP?hl=en-US

delinguincy higher, but nothing special historically:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DRCCLACBS?hl=en-US

if there is a boring way to present a situation and a spectacular way to spin it, popular medias will always tend to take the spectacular ways to boost revenues (and that always what will end up viral)
 
Last edited:

“ASUS Raises GeForce RTX 50 Series "Blackwell" Pricing in China, Radeon Pricing Unchanged​

by AleksandarK Today, 06:29 Discuss (7 Comments)
ASUS has reportedly updated its product pricing in the Chinese market to reflect the memory component shortage across the semiconductor industry. According to Board Channels, ASUS is adjusting the pricing for the GeForce RTX 50 Series "Blackwell" GPUs with GDDR7 memory, while the pricing strategy for AMD Radeon RX 9000/7000 and other series remains unchanged. At the very top, ASUS is increasing the price of its RTX 5090 D v2 SKUs by about 500 yuan, which is approximately $72 at the time of writing. Other SKUs like the GeForce RTX 5080, RTX 5070 Ti, regular RTX 5070, and RTX 5060 Ti with 16 GB of VRAM are experiencing an increase of anywhere from $14.50 to $45. Interestingly, some older and low-end SKUs like the popular GT 1030 and GT 710 series, which provide basic graphics output for many prebuilt PCs, are also seeing a price increase of up to $8. AMD's Radeon series reportedly remains unchanged, which can be explained by these GPUs already having gone through a price increase cycle and GDDR6 memory being in better supply than GDDR7.”
 

“NVIDIA Grabs 94% AIB GPU Market Share, AMD Falls to 5%​

by AleksandarK Today, 07:11 Discuss (28 Comments)
According to a new report from Jon Peddie Research, NVIDIA has once again increased its market share in the AIB GPU sector, reaching 94% in Q4 2025. This marks a 1.6% rise from the previous quarter and sets a new all-time high in recent reports. Meanwhile, AMD's market share has been declining, with a 1.6% decrease that appears to have benefited NVIDIA's partners and their shipments. Overall, JPR records indicate that the AIB GPU market sold 11.5 million units in the final quarter of 2025, a reduction of half a million units from Q3, but a significant 36% increase compared to 8.45 million units in the final quarter of 2024. JPR attributes the slight decline in overall GPU AIB shipments to rising memory prices and tariffs affecting the global supply chain, which have driven up the costs of discrete GPU solutions that use expensive GDDR7 and GDDR6 memory.

Intel's market share in AIB GPU shipments remains steady at around 1%, consistent with its performance in Q3 2025 when the company achieved its first single-digit percentage since launching its Arc "Alchemist" GPUs for gamers. This indicates that Intel's progress is stable, with demand remaining consistent as gamers continue to choose Intel GPUs at the same rate as before. For Intel to break out of the single-digit bracket, the company likely needs more GPU designs, such as the anticipated "Battlemage" B770 graphics card.“
 
considering nvidia gaming revenues were down year over year for q4, that 36% increase could be due to a lot of non datacenter exclusive but non gaming gpu either like RTX 6000 cards as pro-viz was up, (or q4 2024 was solid for switch 2 build up or simply difference between when nvidia sales versus when they hit retails channel that get tracked),
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: erek
like this
LukeTbk said:
considering nvidia gaming revenues were down year over year for q4, that 36% increase could be due to a lot of non datacenter exclusive but non gaming gpu either like RTX 6000 cards as pro-viz was up, (or q4 2024 was solid for switch 2 build up or simply difference between when nvidia sales versus when they hit retails channel that get tracked),
Click to expand...
Not possible. I have it on good authority from members from this very board how AMD had the greatest launch in GPU history for their top tier luxury 9070 and 9070xt cards. There were even dozens upon dozens of pictures of very happy customers walking out of actual brick and mortar stores with their purchases.

I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that Radeon lost market share again with such a successful launch.
 
ZeroBarrier said:
Not possible. I have it on good authority from members from this very board how AMD had the greatest launch in GPU history for their top tier luxury 9070 and 9070xt cards. There were even dozens upon dozens of pictures of very happy customers walking out of actual brick and mortar stores with their purchases.

I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that Radeon lost market share again with such a successful launch.
Click to expand...

mUh MiNdFaCtOry!!!!!!!1!1111!!!!!!!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top