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Love your socket 754?

Thought I'd throw my $.02 in here.

Wife's Rig
Sempron 64 3400+
Gigabyte GA-K8NS
1024MB Geil PC-3500 Ultra
250 GB Western Dig
Lite-On 16x Dual-Layer burner
9800

Running at 216x10 1:1 2-4-4-11-1T, default vcore, 2.8 mem voltage.

It's been rock solid since January, and she's incredibly happy with it. I just need to get a good AGP card before they dry up, and she'll be happy for the next 2.5-3 yrs.
 
BigMacAttack said:
Yeah - free ground shipping too
BTW - welcome New BlackDak. Like your Dakota truck huh? ;)
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It was a Dakota R/T Clubcab. Supercharged, M1 intake, gutted cats, polished and ported throttle-body, borla exhaust, mopar-perf torque converter, SSBC big brakes, KRC 120B cam, custom tuned PCM, FMS 29lb injectors, 18" wheels, and a whole host of other stuff I can't remember.

I loved that truck. The last time I hit the track it ran a low 13 with severe traction problems and not quite dialec in. Sadly I had to sell it 2 years ago(after I got married), and the fool totalled it after about 3 months
 
my 754

Sempron 3000+
20gig Quantom Fireball
120gig WD
300gb Seagate (soon to come!)
Chaintech mobo
1gb DDR266
CD-RW
FreeBSD 6.1 RELEASE

Yup, it's a sexy file/web/ftp server!
 
NewBlackDak said:
It was a Dakota R/T Clubcab. Supercharged, M1 intake, gutted cats, polished and ported throttle-body, borla exhaust, mopar-perf torque converter, SSBC big brakes, KRC 120B cam, custom tuned PCM, FMS 29lb injectors, 18" wheels, and a whole host of other stuff I can't remember.

I loved that truck. The last time I hit the track it ran a low 13 with severe traction problems and not quite dialec in. Sadly I had to sell it 2 years ago(after I got married), and the fool totalled it after about 3 months
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Yeah - its sad that some dummies don't know how to take care of stuff.
My Mopar is a 1969 Plymouth Road Runner 383 4-speed w/3.55 Sure grip 8-3/4" rear end, PS, PDB (Bendix 4 piston fixed calipers), Hemi suspension and factory airco. I have since installed the upgraded system by Classic Auto Air in Tampa and the engine is modded .030 over with 11:1 pop up TRW forged pistons, balanced reciprocating assy (by previous owner). I added a Comp Cams cam (231-237 w/.525" lift @ .050), CAT roller alum 1.6 ratio rockers (.560" net valve lift) w/chrome shafts, 2.14/1.81 valves and full porting in the 452 casting heads. Headers are by tti and are 1-7/8" primary tube into 3" collectors w/tti 3" dia. exhaust system into 3" stainless Magnaflow mufflers and 3" stainless road runner style tailpipe tips from Mancini Racing. Intake is an Edelbrock Performer RPM w/a Holley 750 modded for 4 corner idle and ignition is MP electronic conversion. There is also a Lakewood explosion proof bellhousing and Ram clutch, and of course, a Hurst Competition Plus shifter. The car is F8 Ivy Green Metallic with Saddle/Tan bucket seat interior by Legendary Auto Interiors and black carpet by Auto Custom Carpets. Rolling stock is 15"x7" Magnum 500's up front w/B.F. Goodrich 235-70R15 radials and 15"x8" Magnum 500's with 275-60R15 B.F. Goodrich Radial T/A's on the rear.
When I'm not wrenching on my computer I'm enjoying the car. Once a hotrod always a hotrod. :D

And now - back on thread!
Welcome Lich! Nice Sempron setup.
 
ep1taph said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103010

Looks like newegg is sporting some OEM 3400+ Venice's.

I think they messed up a bit on the statistic input, but that part # ( ADA3400AIK4BO ) is the 3400+ Venice, right?
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What part did they mess up? I see they left out SSE3 but that's all I caught. The manufacturer link is to the right processor so all should be good.
 
If anyone using the nVidia nForce3 chipset wants to play around with half times multis then download the older version of ClockGen.

http://www.cpu-central.com/download/CG-NVNF3.zip

Even if your BIOS doesn't support 0.5X multis, this utility will let you. Overclocking with this version of ClockGen seems more reliable than the latest version and I like it better than Gigabyte's EasyTune5.

You can also create a small .bat file and use ClockGen to apply your overclocked settings on start-up if your motherboard is lacking in HTT adjustments.

Update: There doesn't seem to be any real use for half times multis. On my board the memory speed is still determined by the CPU speed divided by a whole number. At the same CPU speed, a half times multi probably won't give you any new memory dividers to use that you couldn't have used with a regular multi.

On a side note. I don't think I will ever see 3000 MHz but I'm damn close: ;)

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DedEmbryonicCe11 said:
What part did they mess up? I see they left out SSE3 but that's all I caught. The manufacturer link is to the right processor so all should be good.
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Yeah, I noticed it didn't list SSE3. It also seems to not list the core for this one. That's it though, nothing too serious for people who know what they're doing!
 
how can i make a bat file to get that program to work at startup? I can get the program to start just by throwing it in the start folder but I still have to manually do everything.

I dont want to have to reset all my overclocked settings everytime I restart--which can be quite often. I can't get my BIOS to do what the older version of clockgen can do. I'm able to reach close to 2.9 with clock gen but I use the 11.5 multi. Otherwise, when my computer starts, it's OC'd to 2750--limited by ECS' good but not the best BIOS.
 
Pkirk618: Here's an example of a .bat file that you should be able to tweak to your needs.

:: Sets ClockGen to 250 MHz
@ECHO OFF
CD C:\Utilities\CG-NVNF3
CG-NVNF3.exe -file=250mhz.ini

Open up Notepad and Copy and Paste those 4 lines into it and then save it as:
Overclock.bat

The first line is just a comment line and is not important or necessary.
The second line just keeps things quiet when you start up.
The third CD line changes the directory to where you have the CG-NVNF3 folder.
The fourth line executes the ClockGen program within that directory.
The -file option lets you specify a file of what specific settings you want.

A 250mhz.ini file might look like the following:

[CG-NVNF3]
VID=1.55
FID=11.5
FSB=250
AGP=66

Copy and Paste those 5 lines into Notepad and save it as:
250mhz.ini

This would set your computer to 250 X 11.5 = 2875 MHz

Your .ini file does not need to contain all 4 entries. Use as many as you need. It's also important to remember that these items are applied in order. Whether you set your FSB or multiplier ( FID ) first is up to what works for you.

The first one, VID is for voltage. You will probably be setting your voltage in your BIOS so won't be using this one.

FID is your multiplier.

FSB is your front side bus or HTT speed.

The last one is AGP speed. You likely won't be using this one either if your AGP is properly locked like on most nForce3 boards.

Before you add Overclock.bat to your StartUp sequence make 100% sure that it works fine. Double click on it and make sure that it does exactly what you want. If you put some crazy numbers in your .ini file and your computer locks up when you are booting up then you're going to have to restart and boot up in Safe Mode and modify things.

You can also create an icon on your desktop that points to your .bat file if you want to play if safe:

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dude, thank you for taking the time to post that. It worked perfect. I now see many other uses for bat files in my future. Thank you again.
Pete

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all the way
 
939 is sooooo tempting with the price drops

too bad that means new mobo and new video card :eek:
 
CRXican: How many MHz is your Claw running at? With your water cooling rig you should be able to get 2800 MHz out of one of the s754 Venice chips. Not much use spending too much money at the moment with cut throat deals coming our way in August.
 
unclewebb said:
CRXican: How many MHz is your Claw running at? With your water cooling rig you should be able to get 2800 MHz out of one of the s754 Venice chips. Not much use spending too much money at the moment with cut throat deals coming our way in August.
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I don't think I'll really upgrade, I don't even stress my PC to the limits as it is.

My Claw is at stock speeds as I'm not really an overclocker. I don't have the patience to mess around with all those numbers and such.
 
Overclocking the Venice core chips is dead simple. If you're crazy like some of us you can kill a lot of time trying to get the last few MHz out of a CPU but the first 2600 MHz is very painless to get. A couple of tweaks in the BIOS or Clockgen and away you go.

If you ever need some help a year or three from now just head back to the socket 754 [H]Forum and I'm sure this thread will still be going strong. The 939 chips are going out of production sooner than 754.
 
http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/AMD_mobo/index.html

Sure Conroe is a wonderful new processor if you can wait for it and afford it and a good motherboard to go with it.

If you're on a budget though, how can you go wrong with the above deal?

The fastest socket 754 processor ( after being overclocked ) combined with a full size ATX Biostar motherboard which uses the nForce3 chipset for $115. I'm sure Clockgen could make that combo sing. Any users out there with experience with that board? Their new AM2 boards overclock very well.
 
unclewebb said:
http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/AMD_mobo/index.html

Sure Conroe is a wonderful new processor if you can wait for it and afford it and a good motherboard to go with it.

If you're on a budget though, how can you go wrong with the above deal?

The fastest socket 754 processor ( after being overclocked ) combined with a full size ATX Biostar motherboard which uses the nForce3 chipset for $115. I'm sure Clockgen could make that combo sing. Any users out there with experience with that board? Their new AM2 boards overclock very well.
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Is that the 3400+ Venice!? If so, thats a steal... I would use that mobo to update my wifes ecs nforce3 board. LoL

*Edit... If you check star micro... the cpu is now $95 dollars... If you don't need a mobo, that is awesome. :)
 
Should be joing this uber club in the upcoming week. Only 1 question remains & seeing that this is the Skt 754 club, would be best to ask here. Fairly simple question. To those that own the DFI NF3 250GB. What is the hands down best "compatible" memory to run on it?. I still have my single Patriot XBL 512MB stick that runs flawless in my AMD XP setup but my main intrest lies with 1 gig sticks. Will pair them up for 2 gigs :). Can tell you my exact setup ahead of time since most of the stuff has already come in.

AMD Sempron 3400+ (Newer Model)
DFI LP NF3 250GB (getting off of the forums)
BFG 7800GS OC
OCZ Modstream 450
Memory - undecided.

Other stuff like DVD burner, gamer mouse (Razer Copperhead), etc, I already have waiting =).

-DarkLegacy
 
As far as I know, most memory will be fine with it... Corsair seems to have some incompatiblilities... You might want to check out dfi-street for more details. *shrug*
 
noobtech said:
As far as I know, most memory will be fine with it... Corsair seems to have some incompatiblilities... You might want to check out dfi-street for more details. *shrug*
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lol, that was actually the first thing I did. My thread disappeared in a mere few minutes since I didn't put up a text sig with my current system specs. Even when I clearly in text put that my DFI based system is in the works XD. i did browse through a few threads & it seemed most of them used 512 sticks & 256's one. Didn't see not even one guy (The threads & sigs that I looked through) using a gig stick in there system setup.

-DarkLegacy
 
A example in my sig ( 2 x 1 Gb sticks on a nf3 motherboard) :)

However, DFI is known to have compatibility issues with a few brands/models of ram so do a investigation on this. Also, DFI Street is sometime rude from what i heard so repost with the full details and pray you don't land on a moderator in a PMS period.

EDIT : Looks like you are already on it so the best bet is to make a new topic on the Memory section and wait for (cf)Eclipse to post since he is a walking book of knowledge when it come to memory :)
 
When I was looking at DFI mobos I visited their website and looked up their recommended ram for the mobo I was interested in. Geil seems to be a highly recommended brand with them. I'd say you need to do the same. Its quick and easy and you'll get the info straight from the horse's mouth.
 
I did manage to tighten my timings and am now running at 250htt x 10 = 2499.6mhz. I was memtest stable (test 5) at 250mhz 2.5 - 2 - 3 - 6. Could not get that 3 down to 2 at all. Oh well still better than the PC4000 rated Ballistix which is set at 2.5-3-3-8 for the same speed (though that can probably do better as well). And damn I just failed Prime small FFT test after 10 hours and 3 minutes. :( Time to up the voltage a tad.
 
I'm a little confused about the way this board handles voltage. I tried the "+1.7%" vcore option in my bios and it went up to 1.440v idle and 1.456/1.472v under load. That's certainly more of an increase than 1.7% but I'm not complaining. I guess this means the higher options of +3.4% and +5.1% could take me somewhere around 1.55v.
 
Why are you guys recomending nForce 3 based motherboards? That will trap you on AGP! :eek:

nForce 4 all the way baby! I have a second (PCIe) 7600GT on the way right now for my s754 system...I think that makes me the first to go SLI in here :D

And for those of you thinking 7600GT SLI is a waste, I got the second 7600GT for dirt cheap through a Dell Deal and some coupons...not sure how long Dell will take to ship it out though, I ordered a while ago and its still not here :p
 
DedEmbryonicCe11: Give that processor of yours some volts. If you have a Venice core chip it will show its appreciation. :cool:

Unknown-One: You're right, nForce4 is a better way to go than nForce3 if you are just starting out and have a choice of one or the other at about the same price. The nForce4 boards are usually more expensive though.

Most of us have an old nForce3 board that we're using and don't need to upgrade. The ATI X800 XT series like I use can be overclocked a little bit and it's great for gaming. Enough to keep me going for another year while the AMD / Conroe price war works itself out.

Let us know how your SLI setup works out.
 
unclewebb said:
Just noticed that the Newegg s754 blowout is down to $99 for an Athlon64 3400 ( E3 Venice core ) combined with a free motherboard. I think there's even free shipping too. :)

Hard to go wrong at this price.

http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/AMD_mobo/index.html
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If anybody's going to get this, I have to reccomend that BioStar board. nForce3, and works very well. I put one together for a client and it's been very stable, works great.
 
Lich: Did you do any overclocking with the Biostar board? Just wondering what sort of options are available in the BIOS.

Most nForce3 boards respond well to A64Tweaker and ClockGen even if the motherboard manufacturer wasn't thinking ahead. ;)
 
Well, I still need to send out my Corsair value select 512MB stick for RMA, and I've been driving past a Microcenter about 3 hours south of here lately, so I stopped in last week and got their deal on an ULTRA 1GB stick for $59 A/R.

I was going to just use it to hold me over until my Corsair gets out in the mail and back again, but I found I could push the timings on it from CAS 3 to CAS 2.5. Woot! $60 for a 1GB stick of CAS 2.5 :D

So now I'm running 1.5GB @ 400mhz-ish.

Now I'm trying to figure out if I should run the 1.5GB and dump my spare Value Select into my leftover-parts PC I'm going to sell off cheap to my buddy, or fill all 3 slots and go with 2GB. Or just go back to 1 GB when my Corsair 512MB comes back to me. Not sure if I really need more than 1GB of RAM as I'm not big into BF2 or other RAM-hungry games (besides, perhaps, Civilization 4, which likes its RAM). I was kinda thinking BFME2 would like the extra RAM. Any thoughts?


The newegg Venice/free motherboard deal is pretty slick, too bad no Nforce4-4x PCIe boards in there. I'm pretty content running 754 & PCI-e. Dual core offers little for games at this point, and dual-channel 939 chips aren't worth the $$ to upgrade for a few percent gain IMO.
 
Keep in mind that if you fill all your ram slots (3 or more) your mobo will automatically throttle down to DDR333 and possibly 2T on the command rate.

A lot of people don't think too much of Ultra ram but I bought it back before I knew anything about ram because it was such a great price ($29.99 for each 512kb stick at TigerDirect after rebate for my first build and $19.99 each for my 2nd build). I was also able to push it to 2.5-2-2-8 in my 2nd build, although I never fully tested it. For the money I couldn't beat the 2.5-3-3-8 1T timings it gave me in everyday use.
 
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