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Love your socket 754?

Epicenter said:
Quick, rename the club "NO EPICENTERS" and move to the thread across the street.
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i never said that. i don't have a problem with you. i have a problem with you crapping in this thread. i warned you once, no more.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
i never said that. i don't have a problem with you. i have a problem with you crapping in this thread. i warned you once, no more.
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Am I supposed to be afraid of you? Go ahead, try and get me banned. I need a good reason not to come to this place anymore, it just gets me aggravated. Maybe if I were [H]ard like you and made enough poor purchasing decisions I'd be cool enough for my opinions to be respectable. ;)

I tried cleaning up the surge of disinformation in this place with a thread to explain what really needs to go into a PC for it to cost what it needs to, to do what it needs to do, and to help people make SMART decisions, and I was told I was biased and needed to shut up because How DARE I make a thread posting the suggestions the smarter people here had made before (but they were always RIGHT when they suggested these things, hah.) Well, if you guys want to stay in a cesspool of misinformation, cool. Have fun..
 
Here is a good reason, you're an asshat, this thread isn't geared towards, "Spread your crappy opinion that nobody cares about." it's for help with S754 systems and some other fun stuff we will do in the future.
 
He knows damn well that he's not welcome in this thread. He thinks everyone should be like him and spend money needlessly on 1-3% performance increases just to have some sort of wonderful upgrade path.

Needless to say, nobody here is really interested in upgrading to dual cores. If they were, they'd have 939 systems. You can't convince an educated group of people that their computer is obsolete when it works just fine with all the latest software. I know about 939's benefits, and if I were to go from an AXP or Pentium 4, I'd get a 939 system. But I already have a 754 one, so 939 is useless to me.

If 754 is what we prefer, what the fuck do you care? What is it your business anyway?
 
Borgschulze said:
Here is a good reason, you're an asshat, this thread isn't geared towards, "Spread your crappy opinion that nobody cares about." it's for help with S754 systems and some other fun stuff we will do in the future.
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QFT

now stfu and go back to jerking off to midget pr0n
 
robberbaron said:
I know about 939's benefits, and if I were to go from an AXP or Pentium 4, I'd get a 939 system. But I already have a 754 one, so 939 is useless to me.
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I came from an Athlon XP rig and I went 754 because it was cheaper, and this rig runs awesome. Keeps up with 3200+ Venice rigs, so there is no point in spending the extra money.

What the hell is your problem?
And I must ask, what might QFT mean.
 
Epicenter said:
Am I supposed to be afraid of you? Go ahead, try and get me banned.
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if you want to be, fine... but i'm not trying to get you banned. i'm trying to get these un-needed flame-bait posts out of this thread. i asked in a rather non-agressive manner. i get crap back. thus report. now stop it.
 
Borgschulze said:
I came from an Athlon XP rig and I went 754 because it was cheaper, and this rig runs awesome. Keeps up with 3200+ Venice rigs, so there is no point in spending the extra money.
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same here....athlon XP 2600+ to a64 2800+

i benchmark higher than my friends DFI NF4 s939 3200+ system....and we are both OCed...



what does that say
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here..i spell it out for you...

s754 is the absolute BEST bang/buck setup you can get (depending on the parts you choose)
 
Borgschulze said:
I came from an Athlon XP rig and I went 754 because it was cheaper, and this rig runs awesome. Keeps up with 3200+ Venice rigs, so there is no point in spending the extra money.

What the hell is your problem?
And I must ask, what might QTF mean.
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Yeah, what I meant was if I were to do it today. I got this system back in November and I'd say it's held up pretty well.

4b5eN+EE said:
s754 is the absolute BEST bang/buck setup you can get (depending on the parts you choose)
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Yeah, $84 for a sempron 2800 + $58 for a VNF3-250GB = $142. Cheaper than the cheapest S939 CPU. :cool:
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
if you want to be, fine... but i'm not trying to get you banned. i'm trying to get these un-needed flame-bait posts out of this thread. i asked in a rather non-agressive manner. i get crap back. thus report. now stop it.
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OH GOD I'M REPORTED OH JESUS CHRIST NOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE NO VALID REASON LEFT TO LIVE

You know, for someone who has 'no problem' with me, you sure make it a point to disagree with me in EVERY THREAD I POST IN.
 
Epicenter said:
OH GOD I'M REPORTED OH JESUS CHRIST NOOOOOOOOOOOO I HAVE NO VALID REASON LEFT TO LIVE

You know, for someone who has 'no problem' with me, you sure make it a point to disagree with me in EVERY THREAD I POST IN.
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Please address my post:

"Yeah, $84 for a sempron 2800 + $58 for a VNF3-250GB = $142. Cheaper than the cheapest S939 CPU. "
 
$40 FOR A M7NCG-400, $50 FOR A 1700+ CHEAPER THAN THE LEAST EXPENSIVE SOCKET 754. $3 FOR A K6-166, $5 FOR A SOCKET 7 BOARD. We can keep this up all day.

Please address my point, it'll cost you $150 less later to upgrade your board too, when you eventually DO need a new CPU. If you feel no need to upgrade for years, fine, go ahead. I just don't see the point of a 754 FAN CLUB when you're just endorsing the cheapest possible option. I don't see a Sempron fan club. If you want to discuss Socket 754 options, fine, do it in separate threads where people who aren't 754 FANATICS enough to hang out in an enormous half unreadable-due-to-its-size thread, and can just see what questions you have, address them, discuss, et etcetera. Giant threads like this do more harm than good because people who have answers often won't feel like diving into 25 pages of unrelated topics.

Hell, don't get me wrong, if I didn't need an X2 soon, It's very likely I'd get a Socket 754 board just because of the MicroATX board selections out there, and that I'd like a small system, but don't like Shuttles. It's not a grudge. I just think a FAN CLUB thread that keeps any and all discussion about Socket 754 PERIOD into a thread so huge no one wants to read is utterly moronic.
 
Epicenter said:
. I just don't see the point of a 754 FAN CLUB when you're just endorsing the cheapest possible option.
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That's not at all what I'm doing. I'll only endorse the best option for the money. If someone is doing heavy rendering, hell yes I'll recommend an X2 system. Encoding? I'll recommend them an Intel system. You totally misunderstood the point of this thread/club, and I frankly don't think you even tried to understand it in the first place.

As for the $150 down the road.. thats nice. But that doesn't address the financial status of the person RIGHT NOW. I mean sure, if everyone had a high paying job, then 939 would be great to recommend to everyone. But saying that 754 isnt a viable alternative at all is fucking ridiculous. You lost the argument that you started out of spite, so get out.

"$40 FOR A M7NCG-400, $50 FOR A 1700+ CHEAPER THAN THE LEAST EXPENSIVE SOCKET 754. $3 FOR A K6-166, $5 FOR A SOCKET 7 BOARD. We can keep this up all day."

This is flawed because the cheap 754 system will perform comparably to the 939 system.
 
Epicenter said:
$40 FOR A M7NCG-400, $50 FOR A 1700+ CHEAPER THAN THE LEAST EXPENSIVE SOCKET 754. $3 FOR A K6-166, $5 FOR A SOCKET 7 BOARD. We can keep this up all day.

Please address my point, it'll cost you $150 less later to upgrade your board too, when you eventually DO need a new CPU. If you feel no need to upgrade for years, fine, go ahead. I just don't see the point of a 754 FAN CLUB when you're just endorsing the cheapest possible option. I don't see a Sempron fan club. If you want to discuss Socket 754 options, fine, do it in separate threads where people who aren't 754 FANATICS enough to hang out in an enormous half unreadable-due-to-its-size thread, and can just see what questions you have, address them, discuss, et etcetera. Giant threads like this do more harm than good because people who have answers often won't feel like diving into 25 pages of unrelated topics.
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here..let me spell out another thing for you



S-E-A-R-C-H


heh....n00bs
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also:
let me get this straight.....you:

a) hate this thread because you had to sift through 25 pages of posts to find an answer so now your taking it out on us?

b) you want the forums to be spammed with tons of "HELP ME WITH MY s754 SETUP" that you hate so much....instead of it all just being in one thread that you just have to overlook..instead of multiple threads that are harder to overlook?
 
4b5eN+EE said:
here..let me spell out another thing for you
S-E-A-R-C-H
heh....n00bs
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.. n00b. Oh my god, you're an idiot. Look at my registration date. You. Are. An. Idiot.
 
Epicenter said:
.. n00b. Oh my god, you're an idiot. Look at my registration date. You. Are. An. Idiot.
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hey..psssst....just a tip

postcount/registration date mean nothing
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Epicenter said:
.. n00b. Oh my god, you're an idiot. Look at my registration date. You. Are. An. Idiot.
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Your posts say more about you than your registration date, dear.
 
Epicenter said:
Giant threads like this do more harm than good because people who have answers often won't feel like diving into 25 pages of unrelated topics
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i find this rather ironic ;)
 
Point is, I'm not a newbie. I'm just pissed off.

Look, I re-read my first post, and I admit I am being too harsh. I'm more just annoyed that all the recommendations of Socket 754 to people in the rest of this forum and General Hardware are giving people less knowledgeable than yourselves the impression 754 will give them great performanc and low cost with no drawbacks, but they don't seem to be learning along with that, that they will NOT have an upgrade path, and I think that's a pretty damn important thing for them to know. So when I see people going on ranting and raving about how awesome 754 is in a gigantic thread, a FAN CLUB even, further drilling "754 is god" into less knowledgeable people's heads, it becomes yet ONE MORE piece of imformation people here won't shut up about and keep passing along-- like the "OCZ power supplies help overclocking!" or "You need fancy memory to overclock an Athlon 64" or the "CPUs will be damaged past 60C!" myths.

Again, don't take this the wrong way. I'm not mad at you as people, I'm mad at the spread of disinformation, and that seems almost ENCOURAGED here.
 
robberbaron said:
"$40 FOR A M7NCG-400, $50 FOR A 1700+ CHEAPER THAN THE LEAST EXPENSIVE SOCKET 754. $3 FOR A K6-166, $5 FOR A SOCKET 7 BOARD. We can keep this up all day."
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Or.. you can just walk around your neibourhood on the "Large Pick-up" garbage day and get a free computer...

I picked up a Rage 128 Pro VIVO card a few months ago out of a computer that was thrown out on someones lawn. It was a 32mb card too.
 
I don't remember saying 754 was the best socket aside from casual joking around with my cronies in this thread. If you really want to take things like "754 for lyfe!" seriously, then you need to cut back the espresso shots.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
i find this rather ironic ;)
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Yeah, that button just above the forum is GREAT, I believe it's called Search, and it is even on a Pull-Down menu, isn't that awesome?!
 
Epicenter: Its a fact that socket 754 is the best "bang for your buck" option right now. A 3000+ Clawhammer on stock is already on par/faster than a Venice 3000+ while still costing less. A great motherboard (VNF-250) costs half of what a DFI board does and can still hold up against it. Don't fucking come here telling us what is right from wrong or telling us what to do with our money. You don't see me walking into your bedroom and teaching your boyfriend how to give you head, do you?

In other words, go troll on the SA forums.
 
i can understand your anger epi.. but at risk of making things worse, you're missing some points. (actually one important one)

for a midrange computer, it's very hard to justify s939 over s754 if there is no overclocking, or upgrading in the near future.

take the 3400+ newcastle for example. it's 2.4ghz and 512kb cache. $178 at the egg
a chip with equivilent specs for s939 is the 3800+, at 2.4ghz and 512kb cache. it is $359 at the egg

i realize the is actually an article about pentium M, but read this while comparing the 3800+ to the 3400+. note how in most cases, the performance difference is not all that great, sans a few synthetic benches.. then note the 3800+ costs 2x more.



and baron's point is a good one. a lot of people that post here seem to end up pm'ing me for more personal advice. by this point we kid around about s754 being so awesome as i recommend a dfi & 3200+ venice to overclock with ;)
 
Epicenter said:
Giant threads like this do more harm than good because people who have answers often won't feel like diving into 25 pages of unrelated topics.
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oh and about that..

so people would rather look through over 200 thousand threads, and over 2 MILLION posts to find the answer?


lets see............25 pages of posts...vs over 2 million posts..which, when we do the math, comes out to be 100,000 pages of posts


i know what i would pick, the one you would obviously pick makes you a complete moron...(or you could just have no life and could spend the months it would take to look for an answer within those 100,000 pages of posts)

Threads: 200,583, Posts: 2,152,027, Members: 42,390
 
And all rational discussion is lost, as people stop bothering trying to get a coherent point across and degrade the conversation to talking about boyfriends sucking dicks. It's a real testament to the collective IQ of this place.
 
I merely see it as a comedic hook to prove a point. I'm simply asking you to take your shit somewhere else.
 
LeArN2LiVe said:
I merely see it as a comedic hook to prove a point. I'm simply asking you to take your shit somewhere else.
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Here's a tip, how about you learn wit and not just tack on a LAWL YOUR GAY at the end of an unrelated point? We're discussing CPU platforms, who the hell cares about the sexuality of the people making the posts?
 
you lower the IQ of everyone here with our idiotic posts :rolleyes:

so i wouldn't talk




you have completely missed the point of this thread and now your pissed off at the fact that lies are being spread out on t3h 1nt3rw3b so now your yelling at us for it....:rolleyes:



ps...

y0u sUc|< 4t t3h 1nt3rw3b


:rolleyes:




also...3 rolleyes..thats the most rolleyes i think any person ive ever seen on this forum has deserved from me....congrats
 
wow, one idiot managed to get this whole thread 3 pages off track...


just end it, we have our s754 systems and we are happy with them. you can go start your own s939 club if you really care that much. when i built my system it would have cost me about $135 more between the mobo/cpu to go with s939, and to me that was not worth it. i could not be any happier with the performance of my s754 system, and who knows, i might upgrade to s939 once dual core chips come down in price and i have a more steady income.

by the way, i am in the IRC channel right now, i could not connect to gamesurge for the past week or so, it was pretty wierd

irc.us.gamesurge.net
#[H]s754club
 
i went S754 because it was a cheap upgrade over my AXP with a huge gain in performance, i would have liked to have gotten a S939, but the cost then wasnt worth it for the small gain in performance.

so far i love my S754 system

as it was stated earlier S754 is the best choice performance/price wise
 
LeArN2LiVe said:
Epicenter: Its a fact that socket 754 is the best "bang for your buck" option right now. A 3000+ Clawhammer on stock is already on par/faster than a Venice 3000+ while still costing less. A great motherboard (VNF-250) costs half of what a DFI board does and can still hold up against it.
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Claw has more cache but tends to run hotter & I believe requires more voltage. Cost is basically the same on either end. 939 has X2, 754 has mobile & DTR chips which are good if you're looking to run at the lowest heat/voltage possible. Can't say as either one has such a huge lead that it's worth getting worked up over.

I have a 939 because it cost the same, I got a nice sale on my DFI mobo, and I can plug an X2 in at some point if I feel like it. I might build a system in the next for months for a media server or network services, which will probably get a low end 754 sempr0n if I'm not happy with what I can build from my spare parts pile.
 
i like the sempr0ns too, they are a great chip for the average person to branch into a64 territory. they can pick up a cheap sempron for 80-120 and a cheap mobo, the vnf3-250 or equal for 55-70, and for 125-190, they have a new platform, minus ram all that stuff, assuming they branched it over from the last build.
 
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