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Love your socket 754?

BigMacAttack said:
Well, since I'm running XP I got the 3gb kit from Crucial. It is sold as a 3 pack so its not like I'm just getting 3 separate 1 gb sticks. We'll see how it does.
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i know its a 3-pack, and i understand, i was just thinking that running 1gb on one channel and 2 on the other might affect your ability to run dual channel, although ddr3's insane bandwidth might make up for the loss to some degree. It would be a shame if you had to end up running only 2gb
 
I got the system together and its running great. I gotta say, it was hard to take the old 3400+ Venice and Abit NV8 mobo out but now that the PII 945 is in I'm pleased. It isn't a ton faster than the old trusty 3400+ Venice oc'd to 2.6 but the icing on the cake is being able to run Acad 2004 LDD, Acad 2009 LDD, a music playing program and a game all on their very own core. Sweet.
 
I would like to announce that my s754 is still chugging away just fine as my backup server. Not the same stuff as in my sig, as I went through 2 upgrade cycles from then to now, but it is running 8 SCSI 10k Cheetah drives and 4 IDE drives, 1gb ram, and a 6800GT(AGP) I found laying around. Sadly this thing will have to stay XP forever, as Vista and beyond have no nForce 3 support.
 
longshot question (since who uses 754 and has any issues?) but my asus k8n-e deluxe won't go on standby - it turns back on right away - or hibernate - it reboots. Any ideas? I have a d-link wireless card attached to it, but that's the only "anomaly" to this setup.
 
Gave up my on s754 main system two days ago! Gave it to the wife, though I think I will be spending some time underclocking it as she only does web browsing. Also need to downgrade from the agp 6800 in there to something less power hungry.
 
I've been running a 754 Sempron 3000+ as my primary desktop since ~05

specs: Sempron 3000+ @2.4GHz
1.5GB Adata ddr400
Biostar TForce 6100
XFX Geforce 7950

I'm kind of surprised the overclock has lasted this long, when I started people always told me that you were going to drastically decrease the life of the chip... well this one has lived to being nearly obsolete(some would argue it already is I'm sure)
 
chrispycrunch said:
longshot question (since who uses 754 and has any issues?) but my asus k8n-e deluxe won't go on standby - it turns back on right away - or hibernate - it reboots. Any ideas? I have a d-link wireless card attached to it, but that's the only "anomaly" to this setup.
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Have you checked your Windows -> Power Options -> Power Options Properties in Control Panel? You may be able to solve your situation there.
 
cuog said:
I've been running a 754 Sempron 3000+ as my primary desktop since ~05

specs: Sempron 3000+ @2.4GHz
1.5GB Adata ddr400
Biostar TForce 6100
XFX Geforce 7950

I'm kind of surprised the overclock has lasted this long, when I started people always told me that you were going to drastically decrease the life of the chip... well this one has lived to being nearly obsolete(some would argue it already is I'm sure)
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That's quite a healthy oc from your Sempron. Out of curiosity - is it one of the Palermo core 980nm Semprons? The Palermo core of the 90nm Semprons and the Venice core of the 90nm A64's was the same except for the amount of cache (128 or 256kb for the Semprons vs 512kb for the Venice), I'm still running 2 skt 754 3400+ Venices and they perform flawlessly at 2.6+ghz and have been doing so for years. I've had them up to 2.7+ but after a time they got a little tired and won't stay up there reliably any more. Your Sempron may be "obsolete" but to me its like an older car; sure it isn't "new" anymore but it still gets the job done! I love my old skt 754 setups and will use them as long as they continue to get the job done.
 
Its the Palermo core sempron, also I like your analogy to old cars seeing as I drive a 69 VW bug, it seems fitting.
 
A while back I had a need for a spare desktop for playing lotro with friends. Recycled a case, PSU, and some optical/Hard drives and a wireless adapter I had. Hit the egg for a cheap mobo and came across the ECS goal+ package (semp 3000, DDR, PCIe slot) for aorund 55$ with shipping. Popped on a coolermaster heatsink, tossed in 2 gigs of wintec ddr400, and a Geforce 7300LE. Fired up first shot, and the thing's been running rock stable with XPpro for over a year and a half now. It's not fast by any means, but plays the game I need it to very well at medium settings, and was built for around $120 with mobo/cpu/ram/Gfx. Hard to knock it really, and it's definetly a keeper. Going to upgrade the HDD to sata one of these days, and toss in a better GFX card once I retire another box. Just a great solid low budget build that will run circles around all the comparably priced atom junk floating around these days.
 
BigMacAttack said:
Have you checked your Windows -> Power Options -> Power Options Properties in Control Panel? You may be able to solve your situation there.
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There are no setting options there other than when the pc should go to stand by. When I go to standby manually it just powers back up again. I think it's XP. Perhaps this "flaw" will make me reactive enough to upgrade to a quad ($100) amd system :)
 
I'm not that familiar with your mobo but if you aren't running the latest bios perhaps a flash would help. You could be right, though, XP might be whacked. Maybe a repair install would be in order? I'm just tossing out any kind of possible solution there is. You may have already tried them all. If so, please disregard my ramblings. :)
 
cuog said:
Its the Palermo core sempron, also I like your analogy to old cars seeing as I drive a 69 VW bug, it seems fitting.
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:) I've got a '69 road runner I play with now and then myself.
Those Palermo/Venice cores are incredibly nice overclockers. I had an A64 3000+ (2.0 ghz) that would go to 2.7 stable on 1.7v with good air cooling, a 3200+ (2.2 ghz) that would hit 2.72 stable at 1.7v and 3 3400+'s that would all hit 2.75 stable at 1.7v. They all crushed my 3400+ and 3700+ Clawhammers. I've still got 2 of the 3400+'s up nad running and will be giving my 3rd 3400+ to my brother in return for the sweet little 3000+ I gave him last year. I'm also gonna give him my Abit NV8 mobo because the mobo I got for him last year won't go past 211 cpu frequency. I can't remember the brand but it isn't a good clocking board at all which surprised me since its an nForce4 chipset board and they usually oc very well.
 
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I'm seriously considering building another 754 setup since I have a spare DFI nforce3 250 mobo here in the box, an ATI/VisionTek X800Pro AGP video card, my 3000+ Venice cpu and 2x512 mb sticks of Crucial Ballistix ram that will hit 280 mhz +. From what I understand the DFI boards are killer overclockers so I may have to give it a try just for grins. Maybe I can get better than the 2.7 I got on the Abit NV8.
 
I gave my amd athlon 1.4ghz extra 'punch' to it by adding another stick of 1gb ram. 2GB should give it a bit of extra life, or at least less disk access for page files.
 
I still have my 754 system at work. Unfortunately it is a Sempron 3100+ CPU with a gig of ram. Been going for almost 5 years now.
 
AMD should come out with a special edition quad core s754.. or that would be a good april fools joke. :D

I've currently on a Athlon X2 6000+... and it feels dated. *sigh* ...but still AMD, baby!
 
Atl530i said:
I still have my 754 system at work. Unfortunately it is a Sempron 3100+ CPU with a gig of ram. Been going for almost 5 years now.
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3100+ is a good overclocking chip if you have a decent board.. had my 3100+ running at 2.73ghz on air and suicide overclocked it to 3.2ghz on water cooling but could never get it stable for more then 2-3 minutes..


noobtech said:
AMD should come out with a special edition quad core s754.. or that would be a good april fools joke. :D

I've currently on a Athlon X2 6000+... and it feels dated. *sigh* ...but still AMD, baby!
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would be cool but it would be bottlenecked so badly by the socket and ram it would be pointless.. not to mention they would have to redesign it to fit the DDR1 IMC on it..

btw the 6000+ is dated.. but then again so is all the athlon x2's.. i have a 6400+ and hate it with a passion worst 150 dollars i ever spent on a piece of computer hardware..
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
btw the 6000+ is dated.. but then again so is all the athlon x2's.. i have a 6400+ and hate it with a passion worst 150 dollars i ever spent on a piece of computer hardware..
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Don't feel to bad. I once bought a Geforce FX5500. At full retail. On release week. :(
 
Just picked up a s754 mATX board/CPU (3200+ Venice). Should be fun to play around with and convert to office duty full time.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
btw the 6000+ is dated.. but then again so is all the athlon x2's.. i have a 6400+ and hate it with a passion worst 150 dollars i ever spent on a piece of computer hardware..
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I can't really bitch about my 5050e - it supports hardware virtualization, the TDP is 45 watts, and for my needs it's been a complete gem. The 6400+ may sting a bit, but perk up - I spent $190 on a GeForceFX 5900XT about a month before the 6600GT was released back in 2004. Now that was a spinning ball kick.

Never owned a Socket 754 system, but they seemed like damned solid budget options. I could snag a motherboard + CPU combo from the CompUSA near my house for $50, but the PCChips 'board and DDR1 support just don't rub me the right way.
 
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Dark_fire said:
I would like to announce that my s754 is still chugging away just fine as my backup server. Not the same stuff as in my sig, as I went through 2 upgrade cycles from then to now, but it is running 8 SCSI 10k Cheetah drives and 4 IDE drives, 1gb ram, and a 6800GT(AGP) I found laying around. Sadly this thing will have to stay XP forever, as Vista and beyond have no nForce 3 support.
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You can fudge things a bit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NForce3

Don't go past SP-1, seems to work and is stable. Yeah, a patch hack job, but hey, it works
 
Just picked up a Venice 3400+ on ebay. It's running slightly over 2.8GHz with 1.65v. I'm pretty sure the stock cooler from my old Newcastle 1800+ is holding me back (hitting 80+ on load).
 
Bleeder said:
Just picked up a Venice 3400+ on ebay. It's running slightly over 2.8GHz with 1.65v. I'm pretty sure the stock cooler from my old Newcastle 1800+ is holding me back (hitting 80+ on load).
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Wrong socket, buddy. Venice is 939.
 
That is correct. I've owned 7 of them and they all oc very well. I have 2 3400+ Venice systems still in active duty and running like champs. Also, the Palermo core s754 Semprons are actually 90nm Venice cores with less cache enabled (128 or 256 vs the Venice 512). They all use the same 90nm architecture.
 
Halon said:
Never owned a Socket 754 system, but they seemed like damned solid budget options. I could snag a motherboard + CPU combo from the CompUSA near my house for $50, but the PCChips 'board and DDR1 support just don't rub me the right way.
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DDR1 support never bothered me a bit, especially when I was turning sub 32 second SuperPi times. My Crucial Ballistix DDR400 would clock all the way up to 280 mhz (DDR 560) in my Abit NV8 mobo on a 433 divider. That stuff rocked!
I agree with you on that mobo selection, though. I found that the Venice chips really liked the nForce4 chipset mobo's, except for the Asus one I had. It only allowed a max voltage setting of 1.55v and the Venices don't really get started clocking up well until 1.6 - 1.7v. That may sound like a lot of voltage (since 1.4v was stock) but they'd take it all day long as long as you had a decent hsf. Heck, I'm running a 3400+ Venice on the stock cooler now at 1.6+v at 2.6 ghz without any hiccups at all.
 
Curious, what is the stock cooler for a Venice S754? I bought mine CPU-only, so no idea what the stock cooler would have been for one of those. Is it AMD's own, or OEM'd from someone? Standard metal block w/ fins? Heatpipes?
 
Yeah - stock type finned aluminum metal block cooler for the boxed 3000+ and 3200+. The 3400+ Venice was an OEM only chip - it was never released in retail (boxed w/fan) form. Funny thing is - the 3400+ Venice was actually released before the retail 3000+ and 3200+ cpu's for OEM system builders.
 
I love my Socket 754 Athlon 2800....runs at 1.8 GHz, never got around to OCing it, it stis as a home server now with a whopping 1 Gig of memory and an ATI All In Wonder '06 AGP 8x.....what a beast of a machine...atleast it ran my WC3 decently :)
 
Those were good times.

Was running the DFI Lanparty nF3 250Gb board paired with a Athlon 64 3700+ Newark. My particular chip wasn't the best overclocker, I was only able to get it stable @ 2.88GHz, while others were succesful at bringing it about 3.0GHz. I had paired mine with the Zalman CNPS9500 as the cooler was very light and used a screw down mounting method (Clip Method cooler would cause the core to crack as there was no IHS over the core).

I was running 2x512MB sticks of G.Skills Winbond memory, it was the 'new' BH-5. Capable of handling the extreme voltages that the older BH-5 was known for (3.5v VDIMM 250MHz 2-2-2-5 kind of thing). This was paired with the OCZ-Powerstream 520W so I could add more voltage to the 3.3v Rail if I was so inclined to crank up the vDimm past that point.

Also had an eVGA 6800GT equipped in there for good measure. Was a great little gaming machine at the time. 3DMark03 definately gave it a workout though.
 
I just re-cleaned my NF3 computer since I am getting a New computer this week.. i havent cleaned it up for 4 to 5 years.. wasted 1 tank of compress air did nothing.. It did work however on 2HP compressor, no more dust and back to 2500mhz with tight timing... I will be using this as my second comp...
btw .. This NF3 computer seems faster than my Toshiba X205-s9800 Laptop
 
I've had a DFI NF3 250GB and a mobile 754 4000 laying around for sometime now, hopefully one day I'll have the time and motivation to put it together.

The combo was supposed to be a hella OC'er

Thanks cmay119 for alerting me to the fact the Zalman will work for a HSF, been holding on to a AC Freezer Pro to use
 
playah said:
I've had a DFI NF3 250GB and a mobile 754 4000 laying around for sometime now, hopefully one day I'll have the time and motivation to put it together.

The combo was supposed to be a hella OC'er

Thanks cmay119 for alerting me to the fact the Zalman will work for a HSF, been holding on to a AC Freezer Pro to use
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No problem, I heard many horror stories of Clip style coolers cracking cores on these chips. I wanted to avoid that at all costs, because at the time when I owned that chip it was about $300.

The DFI board worked pretty well with this chip, but would have some boot up issues every now and then. Usually it was due to a memory timing issue. The Memory Controllers on these chips were very picky about what they did and did not like for settings.

Before switching to an nForce4 based system, I swapped the CPU into a BIOSTAR motherboard (Model name escapes me at the moment though I think it was called T-Force 6100 or something like that) which resolved the booting issue and had PCI-E.
 
That Biostar T Force was supposed to be good in 754 an 939

I also think the DFI was more picky about the ram used, got some old school TCCD to try out
 
I'm still running (and gaming with) an Athlon 64 3400+ with an Asus K8N mobo and 2 gigs of RAM. The things been a champ except for TF2 which it really shows its age in terms of framerate. I also play L4D2 and I get good framreates on that but then again my drawing distance seems to be like 10 feet.

One of my SATA ports went bad, so it no longer has a DVD drive as I moved my HDD to that port. I'm looking forward to putting a new build together for me in the coming months.
 
Wow...

You guys are still using these things?

I have a socket 754 Athlon 64 3000+ (2.0Ghz) and 1 GB (2x512mb) of Kingston HyperX DDR2 ram in a drawer at home if anyone wants them....

Free to anyone who wants to pay for shipping (or pick them up in the greater Boston area)

If not for the fact that my socket 754 Abit motherboard is dead, I'd probably still be using them for a server build...

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Actually... I also have an AGP Geforce 6800GT from that same system justkicking around in a drawer if anyone wants that too... Same deal. Free to whomever grabs them first. I can not guarantee that they are working (but they were last I tried them)
 
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