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LG 48CX

Ok without reading the entire thread how well doe s this perform with FPS type games?
 
p3sty said:
Ok without reading the entire thread how well doe s this perform with FPS type games?
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Its the best 120hz "monitor" you can buy. Exceptionally low ghosting / response time, no overdrive. You could maybe argue a 240hz+ monitor is better for hardcore competitive gaming, but I won't make that argument.
 
Received it today, and just to confirm, not only does the "Cable Matters 48Gbps USB C to HDMI Adapter" work with the cx and the newest nvidia drivers, it also works with my denon receiver just fine at 4k120 @ 10bit color
which the club3d adapter never would


so whatever issue club3d has with newer drivers, it's not nvidia's fault

tested with a 2070 super and 2080ti

had to delete a few resolutions and audio formats to make room in the edid for better than 16bit 48hz audio to show up, but all is working fine so far

even 4:4:4 shows up which i've never seen directly selectable on one of these active displayport adapters on nvidia


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ciphray said:
Received it today, and just to confirm, not only does the "Cable Matters 48Gbps USB C to HDMI Adapter" work with the cx and the newest nvidia drivers, it also works with my denon receiver just fine at 4k120 @ 10bit color
which the club3d adapter never would


so whatever issue club3d has with newer drivers, it's not nvidia's fault

tested with a 2070 super and 2080ti

had to delete a few resolutions and audio formats to make room in the edid for better than 16bit 48hz audio to show up, but all is working fine so far

even 4:4:4 shows up which i've never seen directly selectable on one of these active displayport adapters on nvidia


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Do you happen to have a MacBook nearby? Curious what resolutions it supports, specifically with a program like switchresx
 
sharknice said:


Official prices released,
48" is actually $1500.
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That’s not good. I believe this is the first time ever that a newly released LG OLED model was the same price as the previous year. I believe all sizes in all past years went down at least $100 each year every year if not mistaken.

LG needs to up their game. You can get like a 4K 75” TV from Walmart for like $450 these days. Yeah I know, you’re preaching to the choir here, but 99% of “normies” are going to buy that $450 75” over a $1,500 48” any day regardless of how many marketing terms you throw at them.
 
Seyumi said:
That’s not good. I believe this is the first time ever that a newly released LG OLED model was the same price as the previous year. I believe all sizes in all past years went down at least $100 each year every year if not mistaken.

LG needs to up their game. You can get like a 4K 75” TV from Walmart for like $450 these days. Yeah I know, you’re preaching to the choir here, but 99% of “normies” are going to buy that $450 75” over a $1,500 48” any day regardless of how many marketing terms you throw at them.
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I'd assume the pricing is due to global pandemic and bracing for possible component supply issues. Also the panels for these have probably not gotten less expensive to make.

What the "normies" as you say buy has very little relation to the enthusiast crowd. LG is not catering for them as Chinese manufacturers rule that area. OLEDs are and will be a premium product in all manufacturers' lineups at least until Mini-LED backlights get cheap enough to cram into more budget models.
 
Seyumi said:
That’s not good. I believe this is the first time ever that a newly released LG OLED model was the same price as the previous year. I believe all sizes in all past years went down at least $100 each year every year if not mistaken.

LG needs to up their game. You can get like a 4K 75” TV from Walmart for like $450 these days. Yeah I know, you’re preaching to the choir here, but 99% of “normies” are going to buy that $450 75” over a $1,500 48” any day regardless of how many marketing terms you throw at them.
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To be fair, an LG OLED will greatly outperform a 4K 75" TV from Walmart for $450. The technology stuffed into LG's OLED TVs is staggering. The OLED is a very premium product for enthusiasts and is priced as such.

Value-for-money, LG's current lineup of OLED TVs offer an incredible amount of performance for the price.
 
ciphray said:
Received it today, and just to confirm, not only does the "Cable Matters 48Gbps USB C to HDMI Adapter" work with the cx and the newest nvidia drivers, it also works with my denon receiver just fine at 4k120 @ 10bit color
which the club3d adapter never would


so whatever issue club3d has with newer drivers, it's not nvidia's fault

tested with a 2070 super and 2080ti

had to delete a few resolutions and audio formats to make room in the edid for better than 16bit 48hz audio to show up, but all is working fine so far

even 4:4:4 shows up which i've never seen directly selectable on one of these active displayport adapters on nvidia


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Nvidia has already acknowledged that the adapter gets stuck on 600 MHz pixel clock and the issue only occurs when using a driver newer than 456.71. I have zero issues on the older driver going direct to the TV.

The CableMatters adapter seems to do something different or maybe there is something about it using USB-C that helps.
 
madpistol said:
To be fair, an LG OLED will greatly outperform a 4K 75" TV from Walmart for $450. The technology stuffed into LG's OLED TVs is staggering. The OLED is a very premium product for enthusiasts and is priced as such.

Value-for-money, LG's current lineup of OLED TVs offer an incredible amount of performance for the price.
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We all know that the OLED is going to be better than the Walmart TV, but his point was that it doesn't matter because most folks will buy the Walmart TV regardless just purely based on price to size ratio, something that OLED needs to improve on if they want to make the technology more mainstream and get it into everyone's homes.
 
If the pricing history of high density FALD TV's is any indication then OLED will remain exclusive to somewhat higher prices ranges (by size) for a long time. Most of those cheap TVs people are referencing are edge lit and in some cases use cheaper parts (e.g. TCL). They also aren't hdmi 2.1 , 120hz, vrr, true HDR.. While prices can drop over years and with higher production numbers - that example is comparing apples and oranges.
 
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We all know that the OLED is going to be better than the Walmart TV, but his point was that it doesn't matter because most folks will buy the Walmart TV regardless just purely based on price to size ratio, something that OLED needs to improve on if they want to make the technology more mainstream and get it into everyone's homes.
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That's not LG goal with Oled. like a previous poster said, they are aiming for the higher tier marketplace, not the cheap affordable one littered by many others. Does Ferrari lower their prices to get into more garages.
 
MistaSparkul said:
We all know that the OLED is going to be better than the Walmart TV, but his point was that it doesn't matter because most folks will buy the Walmart TV regardless just purely based on price to size ratio, something that OLED needs to improve on if they want to make the technology more mainstream and get it into everyone's homes.
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As LG gets better at making OLED panels, prices will continue to drop. Each generation is slightly cheaper than the last, and each generation also brings more tech as well. There was a time where LCDs were insanely expensive, and a 75" TV from any manufacturer costs $2-3k. The fact that You can now get a fully featured 75" 4K HDR smart-TV from Best Buy for $700 is a testament to just how far the technology has come. That being said, the 75" TV I am referencing is utterly annihilated by an OLED TV of any size. However, I don't expect Joe TvBuyer to really care because "Why would I buy a 55" OLED for $1400, when I can get a 75" TV for half that price?"

Mr. Joe TvBuyer is not the target audience of LG's OLED tech, and they know this. I do not doubt that if LG Display continues to make improvements to the manufacturing of OLED panels, we could see sub-$1000 55" in a year or less. At the current asking price, OLED is mid-tier premium (even though the technology is, at the moment, state-of-the-art), but as soon as they get it to $1000, it becomes mid-tier to mainstream, and at that point, I think we will really see the value of the tech take off. OLEDs already sell very well, but at sub-$1000, they would sell like hotcakes.
 
celwin said:
That's not LG goal with Oled. like a previous poster said, they are aiming for the higher tier marketplace, not the cheap affordable one littered by many others. Does Ferrari lower their prices to get into more garages.
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That would be MicroLED. And wasn't OLED supposedly going to be "cheaper" to manufacture than LCDs one day? Makes no sense to keep it only in a higher tier marketplace if they can get the manufacturing cost low enough, lower prices, and then sell way way more units. But hey what do I know.
 
madpistol said:
As LG gets better at making OLED panels, prices will continue to drop. Each generation is slightly cheaper than the last, and each generation also brings more tech as well. There was a time where LCDs were insanely expensive, and a 75" TV from any manufacturer costs $2-3k. The fact that You can now get a fully featured 75" 4K HDR smart-TV from Best Buy for $700 is a testament to just how far the technology has come. That being said, the 75" TV I am referencing is utterly annihilated by an OLED TV of any size. However, I don't expect Joe TvBuyer to really care because "Why would I buy a 55" OLED for $1400, when I can get a 75" TV for half that price?"

Mr. Joe TvBuyer is not the target audience of LG's OLED tech, and they know this. I do not doubt that if LG Display continues to make improvements to the manufacturing of OLED panels, we could see sub-$1000 55" in a year or less. At the current asking price, OLED is mid-tier premium (even though the technology is, at the moment, state-of-the-art), but as soon as they get it to $1000, it becomes mid-tier to mainstream, and at that point, I think we will really see the value of the tech take off. OLEDs already sell very well, but at sub-$1000, they would sell like hotcakes.
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That's already happened, heh. I got a Vizio 55" OLED at Best Buy for $900 on Black Friday.

If LG wasn't making money, they wouldn't be selling the TV as a mass consumer item. A TV at Walmart might be selling more units, but LG is obviously making money fine or they wouldn't be introducing more and more models and selling more and more of them. 5 years ago LG OLEDs were a niche of a niche. Now they're the de facto cross shop with Samsung QLEDs and scared Samsung so much that Samsung felt the need to come up with the hilarious "QLED" term to make the masses think they were the same thing/similar, like AT&T and "5GE".
 
mirkendargen said:
That's already happened, heh. I got a Vizio 55" OLED at Best Buy for $900 on Black Friday.

If LG wasn't making money, they wouldn't be selling the TV as a mass consumer item. A TV at Walmart might be selling more units, but LG is obviously making money fine or they wouldn't be introducing more and more models and selling more and more of them. 5 years ago LG OLEDs were a niche of a niche. Now they're the de facto cross shop with Samsung QLEDs and scared Samsung so much that Samsung felt the need to come up with the hilarious "QLED" term to make the masses think they were the same thing/similar, like AT&T and "5GE".
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Samsung knows their TVs are inferior to LG's OLED tech... that's why Samsung's marketing department is basically running the show at the moment.
 
madpistol said:
As LG gets better at making OLED panels, prices will continue to drop. Each generation is slightly cheaper than the last, and each generation also brings more tech as well. There was a time where LCDs were insanely expensive, and a 75" TV from any manufacturer costs $2-3k. The fact that You can now get a fully featured 75" 4K HDR smart-TV from Best Buy for $700 is a testament to just how far the technology has come. That being said, the 75" TV I am referencing is utterly annihilated by an OLED TV of any size. However, I don't expect Joe TvBuyer to really care because "Why would I buy a 55" OLED for $1400, when I can get a 75" TV for half that price?"

Mr. Joe TvBuyer is not the target audience of LG's OLED tech, and they know this. I do not doubt that if LG Display continues to make improvements to the manufacturing of OLED panels, we could see sub-$1000 55" in a year or less. At the current asking price, OLED is mid-tier premium (even though the technology is, at the moment, state-of-the-art), but as soon as they get it to $1000, it becomes mid-tier to mainstream, and at that point, I think we will really see the value of the tech take off. OLEDs already sell very well, but at sub-$1000, they would sell like hotcakes.
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I don't think a $1000 65 OLED would sell like hot cakes. People will still ask why when they can get a 75" for less. Too many people equate size to quality. When discussing with people about what kind of TV they got they always as how big it is and nothing more. My brother upgraded to a crappy 75" LG TV last year and honestly it looked worse then the older 1080p 55" Sony he replaced it with. I am very jaded cause of OLED. Everything else just looks terrible to me now. The cheap crappy TVs are good enough for most people. I got called a pleb by a guy at work cause I only have a 65" compared to his 75" 5 series samsung. His TV isn't even a "QLED". I'll keep my 65" c9 OLED.
 
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I messed around with this in Octopath Traveler last night because flicker was very apparent in the edges of the screen. I moved the slider in increments of 5 all the way from -30 to +30 and saw no change in flicker, just a modest change in overall gamma on the screen.

So..../shrug I'm probably just ignoring that setting and leaving it at 0.
 
Has the " Game mode doesn't work with Bluetooth headphones" been discussed here. I just found this out today and I've had my CX48 since launch! WTH
 
mirkendargen said:
I messed around with this in Octopath Traveler last night because flicker was very apparent in the edges of the screen. I moved the slider in increments of 5 all the way from -30 to +30 and saw no change in flicker, just a modest change in overall gamma on the screen.

So..../shrug I'm probably just ignoring that setting and leaving it at 0.
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It looked like a bandaid to me from the start, glad it’s confirmed that it is so I can not bother playing with it. Seems like this is the biggest unaddressed issue and I barely even notice it. Pretty much only in some menus and loading screens so far.
 
mirkendargen said:
I messed around with this in Octopath Traveler last night because flicker was very apparent in the edges of the screen. I moved the slider in increments of 5 all the way from -30 to +30 and saw no change in flicker, just a modest change in overall gamma on the screen.

So..../shrug I'm probably just ignoring that setting and leaving it at 0.
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It was never really meant to fix the flickering issue as far as I'm aware. I would say the use case scenario of this feature is to adjust the near black gamma on consoles with VRR enabled since they will be running ~60fps most of the time and running 60Hz with a gamma curve meant for 120Hz is the cause of this issue.
 
MelonSplitter said:
Has the " Game mode doesn't work with Bluetooth headphones" been discussed here. I just found this out today and I've had my CX48 since launch! WTH
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I just got Vanatoo T1 Encore's yesterday with the intention of using them paired to the CX via bluetooth. Connect them and game mode picture mode vanished. I reset the TV, etc only to realize that the TV is incapable of low input lag + bluetooth.

Super lame.
 
Bluebooth audio is very high latency though (200ms+), it kinda makes sense. There is a low latency protocol (30-40ms) but it's rare and often not properly implemented even.
 
kalston said:
Bluebooth audio is very high latency though (200ms+), it kinda makes sense. There is a low latency protocol (30-40ms) but it's rare and often not properly implemented even.
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Yeah, if they enabled this they would just get bombarded with complaints about audio lag. I’m sure it’s easier for their support to just disable this.
 
Cali3350 said:
Yeah, if they enabled this they would just get bombarded with complaints about audio lag. I’m sure it’s easier for their support to just disable this.
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The problem seems to be not telling the end user about it though. Maybe it's somewhere deep within the manual but it's definitely not expected behavior.

Why you wouldn't just connect via BT to your PC or console I don't know. If your mobo does not have BT, a BT dongle is cheap.
 
kasakka said:
Nvidia has already acknowledged that the adapter gets stuck on 600 MHz pixel clock and the issue only occurs when using a driver newer than 456.71. I have zero issues on the older driver going direct to the TV.

The CableMatters adapter seems to do something different or maybe there is something about it using USB-C that helps.
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Yeah it's a different chipset it seems (something from synaptics instead of realtek), I have 2 of the club3d adapters and yeah i know they work with older drivers, however they love to have random glitches that requires a power cycle, and do not work with my denon 40gbits receiver unless i limit that to 18gbs or stay under 720p

Have been using this adapter for 5 days now, and have yet to see an issue, changing resolutions, powering off screens, cloning displays, all perfect.
all things that would have given me issues with the club3d adapters, even once/if nvidia fixes that issue (they didn't even list it as a known issue in the most recent driver notes despite showing it on their forum)
I still wont go back to using one of the club3d adapters.
 
Cali3350 said:
Do you happen to have a MacBook nearby? Curious what resolutions it supports, specifically with a program like switchresx
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Sorry for the late reply, I do not at the moment, will try to test this tomorrow when I'm around one, though the notes on the product page say
"All Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Mac Mini with Apple M1 or Intel chips can only support a maximum resolution of 4K@60 Hz"
does switchresx help one avoid limitations like that?
 
ciphray said:
Sorry for the late reply, I do not at the moment, will try to test this tomorrow when I'm around one, though the notes on the product page say
"All Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Mac Mini with Apple M1 or Intel chips can only support a maximum resolution of 4K@60 Hz"
does switchresx help one avoid limitations like that?
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Yes, it can. I’m mostly interested in a MacBook Pro Intel truthfully, but any data is good data!
 
ciphray said:
Sorry for the late reply, I do not at the moment, will try to test this tomorrow when I'm around one, though the notes on the product page say
"All Macbook, Macbook Pro, and Mac Mini with Apple M1 or Intel chips can only support a maximum resolution of 4K@60 Hz"
does switchresx help one avoid limitations like that?
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SwitchResX might expose some resolutions Apple menus do not but I still don't think it will let you pick resolutions and refresh rates that the Macs just refuse to support.

I contacted CableMatters when I first read about the adapter asking specifically if theirs could support 4k 120 Hz on Intel MBPs and at the time they said yes. I guess they hadn't actually tested it at the time if they have reworded the website to say that they are limited to 60 Hz.

MacOS is just apparently shit and we need to wait for Mac Minis with HDMI 2.1 ports until they can do full refresh rate.

Still interested if you can test it out to make sure.
 
48” C1 now in stock on LG website for the predicted $1,500 USD price.

https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-oled48c1pub-oled-4k-tv

Might as well just buy right now if you’re on the fence about a 48”. Price didn’t come down a single dollar since last years model (unlike all other sizes, which went down hundreds of dollars) and didn’t go on sale for a single dollar during the Black Friday sales or the entire year (unlike all other sizes, which the sale prices were hundreds of dollars cheaper) except maybe a random piddly $50 discount here or there.
 
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I know it's an old tired question but my lg 48C1 is coming today.
I always used IPS up to this point, so please help me find what windows and chrome settings to use to avoid burnin. Also TV settings tips would be appreciated.

I know to autohide taskbar and to use black background or randomized wallpapers if I want.
 
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