LG 48CX

I saw a Samsung S95B with QD-OLED in Best Buy today, and I almost bought the 65" version of it... almost.

I have 2 major issues with it.

1. Colors are WAYYYYYYYY oversaturated, to the point that it hurts my eyes. I know Samsung loves their vivid pictures, but dear god, that's just too much.
2. Post Purchase Support. I'm still waiting for the eARC update for my Samsung Q90R. It's never going to happen, even though Samsung promised it. That makes me wonder how much support we will get from the S95B.

I know that LG's WRGB OLED tech is not as good, but at the moment, I'm far more interested in the LG C2 or G2 simply because of the post purchase support I've gotten on my LG CX through constant updates and bug fixes. It's even gotten some features added to it that were never advertised (black level balancer). This CX, even 2 years and 11,000 hours of screen on time later, is absolutely phenomenal. It truly makes me want to continue to support LG as a company.
 
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Yeah, madpistol, I'm also leery about Samsung stuff due to the awful after purchase support I've heard about. Add to that the cheating on test slides/over saturation in real content, and it's a hard no for me.
 
madpistol said:
I saw a Samsung S95B with QD-OLED in Best Buy today, and I almost bought the 65" version of it... almost.

I have 2 major issues with it.

1. Colors are WAYYYYYYYY oversaturated, to the point that it hurts my eyes. I know Samsung loves their vivid pictures, but dear god, that's just too much.
2. Post Purchase Support. I'm still waiting for the eARC update for my Samsung Q90R. It's never going to happen, even though Samsung promised it. That makes me wonder how much support we will get from the S95B.

I know that LG's WRGB OLED tech is not as good, but at the moment, I'm far more interested in the LG C2 or G2 simply because of the post purchase support I've gotten on my LG CX through constant updates and bug fixes. It's even gotten some features added to it that were never advertised (black level balancer). This CX, even 2 years and 11,000 hours of screen on time later, is absolutely phenomenal. It truly makes me want to continue to support LG as a company.
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Kind of in the same boat personally; LGs support has been solid thus far (B6P owner), and while the tech in the S95B may be superior, Samsungs oversaturation and poor support history make me want to stick with LG.

Waiting on Sony at this point; hoping we get something soon, as I'm looking to upgrade early next month.
 
Just pulled the trigger on a 42C2. It's going to replace an old 32" Sharp AQUOS 1080p TV in the bedroom. Way overkill, but I just can't watch dark scenes in shows and movies on that thing anymore. There is next to no detail and it makes it extremely difficult to tell what's going on sometimes. Plus, the "blacks" are terrible in terms of depth and contrast.

If I ever want to go smaller than my 48CX, I'll reclaim the C2 for PC use but TBH I'm really enjoying the 48" size.
 
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They've broken it again?!
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So I've got some news here. After giving the Nvidia team some driver feedback back in Feb. I've followed up with them this week as I keep seeing in the release notes with each new driver that it is a known issue with this adapter. I've been told that the one-off fix for this adapter has been approved and should make it into the driver that will be released at the end of June.

I'm glad we can finally get 120hz back soon. Hopefully it doesn't break again!
EDIT: Since I didn't quote the correct post, this is the more recent issue with the Club3d Displayport 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 adapter (CAC-1085). It would only display 4k60hz instead of 4k120hz. Since I've upgraded to a 3090Ti I haven't been able to use an older driver to keep the 4k120hz going and have just dealt with 4k60hz for now.
 
I've recently noticed that my LG TV now has 8K support and resolution, I just tried it and it works. Not sure if a firmware update allowed this or either that AMD's drivers enabled such a thing.

Currently running 8K/120Hz /4:4:4 and so far it works. Can anybody else run 8K on their OLED screen?
 
ChronoDetector said:
I've recently noticed that my LG TV now has 8K support and resolution, I just tried it and it works. Not sure if a firmware update allowed this or either that AMD's drivers enabled such a thing.

Currently running 8K/120Hz /4:4:4 and so far it works. Can anybody else run 8K on their OLED screen?
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Some LD OLED's (ZX series) do support real 8K resolution.
But you need big money to buy them.
There are no CX/C1/C2 models with 8K resolution.
https://geizhals.eu/?cat=tvlcd&xf=34_7680x4320~3952_OLED
 
ChronoDetector said:
I've recently noticed that my LG TV now has 8K support and resolution, I just tried it and it works. Not sure if a firmware update allowed this or either that AMD's drivers enabled such a thing.

Currently running 8K/120Hz /4:4:4 and so far it works. Can anybody else run 8K on their OLED screen?
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You can run higher resolutions on screens which can get some minor fidelity increase. It's downsampling or "supersampling" in some games, almost like an anti-aliasing effect. Nowadays you are probably better off using a game that supports DLSS quality mode well enough as it would give you DLSS's AA and use AI upscaling of a lower resolution which ends up with a much higher frame rate for 4k 120hz.

You can't really get a higher resolution than the native resolution of your screen.
Running lower than native rez (4k on the 48cx or the 4k C2) can make the PQ look somewhat "muddy" though you can tweak settings to help a little.
Running higher than native resolution either in settings or using super sampling can result in a better picture due to the fill rate vs losses.

Other than that, your drivers/firmware probably now supports a 8k signal (like something from a 8k disc player for example) being downscaled to 4k by either your gpu or the TV's scaler.
You still can't get full 8k 4:4:4 120hz to your screen though b/c it's a bandwidth limitation. (I think the LG OLED's since after the C9 are all 40gbs 10bit instead of 48gbs 12bit of bandwidth too).

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/hdmi-2-1

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Sept 2019

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-dynamic-super-resolution-is-downsampling-made-easy/

Back in April, Dark Souls modder Durante revealed a new tool he'd written called GeDoSaTo , or Generic Downsampling Tool. Downsampling is like the ultimate brute force anti-aliasing solution--it involves running a game at a high resolution, like 1440p or 4K or even 8K--and then using an algorithm to rescale that image to your monitor's native, like 1080p. Downsampled games look amazingly sharp, but downsampling usually requires some tricky hacks, like adjusting monitor timings or modifying game files. GeDoSaTo made it possible to downsample games more easily than ever before, but it's still a mod tool, and all mod tools require trial and error and tinkering.

Well, Nvidia's been paying attention. One of the major features coming to Maxwell GPUs like the GTX 980 is called Dynamic Super Resolution—and it's just downsampling, but with official driver support instead of hacking. The favorite technique of hardcore PC screenshotters is coming to the masses.

A future GeForce Experience driver for Maxwell GPUs (it wasn't yet enabled when I tested the GTX 980 pre-launch) will include a customizable Dynamic Super Resolution option alongside other GFE basics like anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering. On a powerful enough card, GFE may even click on Dynamic Super Resolution when you press the optimize button.
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At release, DSR will be exclusive to Maxwell, but Nvidia's director of technical marketing Tom Petersen said at Nvidia Editor's Day that a rollout to older cards was "very likely." Petersen showed off DSR on stage at Editor's Day using Dark Souls 2 as an example. He demoed the visible scintillation effect that happens when panning the camera around a field of grass. At 1080p, the sample resolution of the screen is too low to capture entire blades of grass, so some parts of the texture slip through the pixel grid and aren't sampled. That leads to a shimmery effect. When the game is running at 4K with DSR, though, the higher resolution sample grid leads to more grass pixels being sampled, which creates a more solid image.
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DLSS

https://www.digitaltrends.com/compu...ed-to-know-about-nvidias-rtx-dlss-technology/

DLSS stands for deep learning super sampling. The “super sampling” bit refers to an anti-aliasing method that smooths the jagged edges that show up on rendered graphics. Over other forms of anti-aliasing, though, SSAA (supersampling anti-aliasing) works by rendering the image at a much higher resolution and using that data to fill in the gaps at the native resolution.
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The “deep learning” part is Nvidia’s secret sauce. Using the power of machine learning, Nvidia can train A.I. models with high-resolution scans. Then, the anti-aliasing method can use the A.I. model to fill in the missing information. This is important, as SSAA usually requires you to render the higher resolution image locally. Nvidia does it offline, away from your computer, providing the benefits of supersampling without the computing overhead.
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You still can't get full 8k 4:4:4 120hz to your screen though b/c it's a bandwidth limitation. (I think the LG OLED's since after the C9 are all 40gbs 10bit instead of 48gbs 12bit of bandwidth too).
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According to Rtings, all four ports on the C2 support full bandwidth 48gbps.
 
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According to Rtings, all four ports on the C2 support full bandwidth 48gbps.
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Ah cool. Good to know thanks. I have a CX and a C1.

Still --
8k 60hz 4:4:4 10bit is 80.18 Gbps
8k 60hz 444 12 bit is 96.23 Gbps.

8k 100 - 120hz 4:2:2 (not 444) ~~> 128.3 Gbps

8k 4:4:4/RGB 10bit is prob like 160 Gbps idk

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it should double according to that chart .. like

8k 60hz 4:2:2 (10 or 12 bit) @ 64.15 Gbps
Vs.
8k 120hz (10 or 12 bit) @ 128.3 Gbps

So,

8k 60hz 4:4:4/RGB -----> 80.19 Gbps (10bit) , 96.23 Gbps (12 bit)
should be 2x at
8k 120hz 444:/RGB --> 160.38 Gbps (10 bit) and 196.46 Gbps (12 bit)
 
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I know the LG C9/CX/C1/C2 is no longer the big dog in town (QD-OLED has made sure of that), but Halo Infinite looks AMAZING in HDR on this display. The highlights pop even harder than they do on Doom Eternal.
 
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I know the LG C9/CX/C1/C2 is no longer the big dog in town (QD-OLED has made sure of that), but Halo Infinite looks AMAZING in HDR on this display. The highlights pop even harder than they do on Doom Eternal.
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It is the big dog imo. 4k, no curve (the QD oled is curved which means no go for productivity), and better pixel structure.
 
madpistol said:
I know the LG C9/CX/C1/C2 is no longer the big dog in town (QD-OLED has made sure of that), but Halo Infinite looks AMAZING in HDR on this display. The highlights pop even harder than they do on Doom Eternal.
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Still playing Elden Ring with the HDR peak brightness set to ~800 in the game's HDR controls, then adjusting the middle scene brightness and saturation sliders to my liking. Looks amazing - but especially in dim room viewing environment where it looks phenomenal to me. There are a lot of glowing spell effects, magic attacks/effects on weapons, highlights on creatures, daylight pouring through windows or across landscapes, as well as a lot of torches and fire sources etc. and in darker areas so the genre is great for HDR (and sbs contrast even down to inky blackness next to bright saturated sources like those mentioned). Even just regular daylight areas with stones and trees look great without being neon lights on blacks.
Glad you are enjoying your screen.
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I agree with the people commenting on LG's support, firmware and feature updates, etc. I'm in no hurry to upgrade after blowing money on a CX and C1 so I'll see how it goes with QD-OLED and what LG comes up with in the next few years.
 
elvn said:
I agree with the people commenting on LG's support, firmware and feature updates, etc. I'm in no hurry to upgrade after blowing money on a CX and C1 so I'll see how it goes with QD-OLED and what LG comes up with in the next few years.
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My CX had spoiled me big time. I currently have a 65” Samsung Q90R hooked up to my 7.1.2 surround sound in my living room, and I’m itching to replace it with an LG OLED something fierce. The Q90R has 480 local dimming zones, which is fantastic, but it does a horrible job in high contrast HDR situations; the gamma is washed out on some highlights because it’s trying to equalize the brightness between the dark and light area.

But the CX hits these highlights perfectly due to its per-pixel light control. The CX doesn’t get as bright, but it makes up for it with really contrasty (is that a word?) dark scenes. I use sources from Disney+ as a benchmark. Everything from Disney+ looks better on the CX… I mean, everything. I’m sold on LG OLED for the foreseeable future.
 
Well, my LG CX 48" has been turned into the living room TV now. Moved to a slightly smaller apartment and decided that it was a good enough size for the space we had allocated for speakers + TV. LG C9 65" is too big there and will be sold. My PC was mostly used for gaming so it will probably be in the living room in the future.

55" would probably be ideal but with barely any improvement in C1/C2 range it doesn't seem sensible to buy one atm just for the size. This lodging will be a temporary solution before buying a house in a few years when hopefully the situation with the world, cost of electricity/gas/materials/interest etc has stabilized a bit.

Going back to the Samsung CRG9 for desktop work. It does the job for me with enough desktop space at 5120x1440 (CX scaled to 3200x1800 was a bit too little) and looks good for SDR content. Might upgrade to a dual 4K 32" IPS/VA Mini-LED depending on how those shape up this year in pricing and quality. Otherwise will wait what the future brings.

PS. The CX 48" survived the move wrapped in some bubblewrap and stuffed into a barely-large enough cardboard box. I had to throw away the original box some years back. So these OLEDs are probably not that fragile.
 
clayton006 said:
So I've got some news here. After giving the Nvidia team some driver feedback back in Feb. I've followed up with them this week as I keep seeing in the release notes with each new driver that it is a known issue with this adapter. I've been told that the one-off fix for this adapter has been approved and should make it into the driver that will be released at the end of June.

I'm glad we can finally get 120hz back soon. Hopefully it doesn't break again!
EDIT: Since I didn't quote the correct post, this is the more recent issue with the Club3d Displayport 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 adapter (CAC-1085). It would only display 4k60hz instead of 4k120hz. Since I've upgraded to a 3090Ti I haven't been able to use an older driver to keep the 4k120hz going and have just dealt with 4k60hz for now.
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So the Nvidia driver team emailed me last night to tell me that this latest drop of drivers on June 15 (a day before my birthday, or rather, today!) should have the fix. They warned I may need to do a clean install so I'm going to run through DDU and give it a try. I'll report back!
 
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So the Nvidia driver team emailed me last night to tell me that this latest drop of drivers on June 15 (a day before my birthday, or rather, today!) should have the fix. They warned I may need to do a clean install so I'm going to run through DDU and give it a try. I'll report back!
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That’s good news. Happy birthday either way!
 
Thought I would post that my cx48pub that I bought oct. 1st 2020 just got the panel replaced through Geek Squad protection as I started getting dead pixels on the edges of the screen, was up to almost 25 of them scattered on the extreme edges. Panel was replaced with a C1 panel instead of the CX one. I still have until Oct. of 2025 for the warranty so my guess is the next issue will just be fulfilling the warranty with a gift card. Pretty amazing warranty process so far.
 
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Thought I would post that my cx48pub that I bought oct. 1st 2020 just got the panel replaced through Geek Squad protection as I started getting dead pixels on the edges of the screen, was up to almost 25 of them scattered on the extreme edges. Panel was replaced with a C1 panel instead of the CX one. I still have until Oct. of 2025 for the warranty so my guess is the next issue will just be fulfilling the warranty with a gift card. Pretty amazing warranty process so far.
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Thanks for sharing. My C9 isn’t covered , but my two 48 CX are. Glad to know you had a good experience.
 
New firmware dropped a few days ago: SW File Version 04.40.10

US support site change log borked as usual. Enter KR mothership support site..... same changes as recent (but not newest) C1/C2 firmwares:

MR7_2204(04.40.10)
1. The voice recognition performance has been improved.

2. Automatically switches to Game mode, when playing Dolby Vision games.

3. The usability of the Accessibility menu has been improved to help people with disabilities.
 
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clayton006 said:
Thank you. Unfortunately the fix didn't work. Send screenshots and a dispdiag back to the Nvidia driver team for them to sort out.
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So the final follow up to the CAC-1085 adapter and not being able to do 4k 120hz with the latest Nvidia drivers. It turns out I had to contact club3d directly and apply a firmware update to my adapters. So with the new fix from Nvidia plus the firmware has fixed the issue (again).

Hopefully no more driver issues in the future!
 
clayton006 said:
So the final follow up to the CAC-1085 adapter and not being able to do 4k 120hz with the latest Nvidia drivers. It turns out I had to contact club3d directly and apply a firmware update to my adapters. So with the new fix from Nvidia plus the firmware has fixed the issue (again).

Hopefully no more driver issues in the future!
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Which firmware version did they send you?
 
I tested to see if Peak Luminance could be set using CRU in Win 10 for essentially the same functionality as Win 11 for HGiG etc...

The answer is no. So I bit the bullet and installed Win 11 then went through exactly the same setup in CRU and can confirm that it DOES change the Peak Luminance value as it should.

So if you put 128 or whatever into "Max Luminance" in CRU under Win 10, it just ignores whatever you type into that field. Only the "Max Frame-avg" is adjustable in Win 10.
 
Ok, so now I'm using Win 11, peak luminance set to 800, HDR mode on in windows, HGiG mode enabled on the TV when in HDR Game.

(I still turn HDR mode off in Windows when I'm not using it, I have SDR settings and a mode on the TV I like more for constant desktop SDR use. It's a little less bright for general use.)

Currently playing through one of the games on my HDR list, Horizon Zero Dawn. It's another drop dead gorgeous game in HDR just like Tomb Raider was.

Does anyone else have a recommendation for a game that has especially good HDR that they've played on an LG?
 
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Ok, so now I'm using Win 11, peak luminance set to 800, HDR mode on in windows, HGiG mode enabled on the TV when in HDR Game.

(I still turn HDR mode off in Windows when I'm not using it, I have SDR settings and a mode on the TV I like more for constant desktop SDR use. It's a little less bright for general use.)

Currently playing through one of the games on my HDR list, Horizon Zero Dawn. It's another drop dead gorgeous game in HDR just like Tomb Raider was.

Does anyone else have a recommendation for a game that has especially good HDR that they've played on an LG?
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Any of these tickle your pickle?

https://www.thegamer.com/pc-games-best-hdr-support-resident-evil-village-battlefield-v/
 
I already knew about Forza, God of War but Sea of Thieves looks like maybe a good one to check out. Have to see what state the game is in these days and if any of my friends want to play.
 
Advil said:
Ok, so now I'm using Win 11, peak luminance set to 800, HDR mode on in windows, HGiG mode enabled on the TV when in HDR Game.

(I still turn HDR mode off in Windows when I'm not using it, I have SDR settings and a mode on the TV I like more for constant desktop SDR use. It's a little less bright for general use.)

Currently playing through one of the games on my HDR list, Horizon Zero Dawn. It's another drop dead gorgeous game in HDR just like Tomb Raider was.

Does anyone else have a recommendation for a game that has especially good HDR that they've played on an LG?
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I liked Days Gone.
 
Elden ring looks great with HDR peak set to 800 in the game's HDR settings along with adjusting the middle brightness/white point and color saturation in those same HDR settings. There are a lot of dark caves with firelight and magic effects, ourdoor time of day, cascading sunlight, and weather changes. Again a lot of magic effects in dark places too. Really stands out with HDR and just oled per pixel emissive side by side pixel luminance differences.

Jedi: Fallen order - same but with tech and magic. You have a bright lightsaber the whole game which contrasts a lot obviously.

Nioh2 - gorgeous monster design and highly magical weapons/weapon magic effects. One of the few games I actually took the time to peruse the defeated monsters "rogues gallery" in because they look so cool - especially on OLED and in HDR.

Immortals Fenyx Rising - a tongue in cheek greek "zelda breath of the wild" type game. Has long view distances on a powerful enough pc. Challenging and a little souls like battle wise on the hardest difficulty. Relies on counters more though.

Assassin's creed: odyssey

Pathfinder RPG games

There are a few others but I haven't put time into them to comment on them.

Don't forget that there are a number of games that support auto-HDR now too which gives some HDR highlights. Might be best for some games if you do the CRU 800 nit trick though, otherwise some might have blown out details. That goes for any hdr game whose dev's haven't included a well functioning HDR peak brightness slider (and a middle brightness or white point slider, saturation slider).
 
Ok, almost certainly getting the 48" C2 in a week or two, paired with my 3080Ti. Just wanted to confirm a few things before I commit:

  • The C1 had an issue where near blacks would be washed out as FPS diverged from the panel refresh rate when VRR was active; is this still an issue or has LG resolved it?
  • Is there a way to disable/mitigate the ABL/How aggressive (annoying) is it?
  • Does the set come with a HDMI 2.1 cable, or do I need to purchase one?
    • If so, just go Monoprice?
  • Any other known problems/issues that need resolving?
 
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Ok, almost certainly getting the 48" C2 in a week or two, paired with my 3080Ti. Just wanted to confirm a few things before I commit:

  • The C1 had an issue where near blacks would be washed out as FPS diverged from the panel refresh rate when VRR was active; is this still an issue or has LG resolved it?
  • Is there a way to disable/mitigate the ABL/How aggressive (annoying) is it?
  • Does the set come with a HDMI 2.1 cable, or do I need to purchase one?
    • If so, just go Monoprice?
  • Any other known problems/issues that need resolving?
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1 - I have no issues with near black on fps swings being obvious/aggressive to my eyes but I try to keep my fps average at 90 or more where possible. I try not to run my graph under 60 - 70fps+ on the common low end if I can tweak settings for it. Games usually swing plus and minus 15fps from the fps average number commonly and plus/minus up to 30fps (plus a few odd spikes and potholes) in the worst periods. A 70 or 80 fps average could already floating at 55 or 65fps common low and be something like 40 or 50 fps on the lower ranges of that graph for some games/settings. So I'm saying that it might be more obvious when "bottoming out" or hitting the molasses using VRR with the low end of the graph dropping to 30 - 40 fps (or less? :vomit: ) when dialing in an even lower average than 80 fps+ to start with on a game.

- near black flashing. There are certain games whose backgrounds are lower rez/macro blocked sort-of (like youtube/netflix compression) which exacerbate this I guess. I vaguely remember one of the rez evil remakes was an example mentioned in this thread, but I don't have any problems with seeing this in general gaming at 4k rez (and prioritizing HDR games / auto HDR games whenever possible).

2 - Several people in this thread use their TV as a desktop/app monitor rather than keeping 1 or more screens on the side for that like I do. They turn off [edit: ASBL completely - thanks for correction MistaSparkul]. I have no issues with ABL and ASBL for games and video content so I leave it (ASBL) on for my pc CX and my living room C1 (for movies and videos but also gaming with laptop part of the time in the living room). I don't find it aggressive at all for my usage scenarios. There might be a few exceptions with specific games where it could be but nothing I've played has been a bother like using a web browser (especially without using dark themes and customization plugins) and documents (especially those that don't work well with dark themes available for windows) might be.

I use dark themes in windows and I use "color changer" and "turn off the lights" plugins on my web browser on all of my devices. Both remember the settings per page and have a whitelist/blacklist so you don't have to micromanage common pages. The color changer is very quick on new pages though with a simple dropdown and a click. A lot of apps and pages now include their own dark mode option too.

3. I don't remember if it came with a hdmi 2.1 cable but the product page should tell you. I bought several braided 4k hdmi 2.1 guaranteed 120hz ones off of amazon for my screens, linked below.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088T32WTX/
 
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Heh, I actually noticed the flashing (minor) in Teardown the other day so at the moment I'm back to 120Hz BFI rather than VRR.

Still no ill effects from disabling ASBL here! :) Love it even more now, particularly (as elvn indicated) when using it for productivity/work/general use as the ABL/ASBL was never a problem in games or movies for me.

None of my 3 LG OLEDs have come with an HDMI cable. They do, however, come with batteries for the remote.
 
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Ok, almost certainly getting the 48" C2 in a week or two, paired with my 3080Ti. Just wanted to confirm a few things before I commit:

  • The C1 had an issue where near blacks would be washed out as FPS diverged from the panel refresh rate when VRR was active; is this still an issue or has LG resolved it?
  • Is there a way to disable/mitigate the ABL/How aggressive (annoying) is it?
  • Does the set come with a HDMI 2.1 cable, or do I need to purchase one?
    • If so, just go Monoprice?
  • Any other known problems/issues that need resolving?
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1. The near black gamma shifting cannot be fixed, LG has known about this since the CX and 2 generations later the issue is still there, it has something to do with the TV not having multiple gamma curves for 60Hz and 120Hz or something along those lines. It's not as big of a deal as some people make it seem though, and you would probably be hard pressed to actually notice unless you did a side by side comparison.
2. ABL CANNOT BE DISABLED. People confuse ABL with ASBL, which CAN be disabled through the service menu. ASBL is the TV auto dimming itself if the APL on screen remains unchanged after a few minutes.
3. I don't remember but I just bought one off Amazon and have had no problems for the last 2 years.
4. The C2 removed 120Hz BFI but that may be irrelevant to you.
 
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1. The near black gamma shifting cannot be fixed, LG has known about this since the CX and 2 generations later the issue is still there, it has something to do with the TV not having multiple gamma curves for 60Hz and 120Hz or something along those lines. It's not as big of a deal as some people make it seem though, and you would probably be hard pressed to actually notice unless you did a side by side comparison.
2. ABL CANNOT BE DISABLED. People confuse ABL with ASBL, which CAN be disabled through the service menu. ASBL is the TV auto dimming itself if the APL on screen remains unchanged after a few minutes.
3. I don't remember but I just bought one off Amazon and have had no problems for the last 2 years.
4. The C2 removed 120Hz BFI but that may be irrelevant to you.
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Yeah the near black gamma shift is from the gamma being set at 120hz so yes the lower your average frame rate and the lower the frame rates dip with VRR on the bottom end the more you will deviate from 120fpsHz gamma setting. No issues here running games at 80 fps (average) and higher typically.

(50fps) 65fps <<<<< 80 fps average >>>>>> 95fps (110fps)

(60fps) 75fps <<<<<<< 90fps average >>>>>> 105 fps (117fps capped)

(70fps) 85 fps <<<<<<< 100fps average >>>>> 115fps (117 capped)

The near black flickering issue I think is due to the white oled addition (WRGB) on very near black thresholds unless I'm remembering that wrong. They've applied a few different "fixes" before. The initial "fix" on the C9 was using some dithering on the near blacks (not the whole screen) but they found it lost detail so they dropped that one. Not sure what if anything is in firmwares to lessen the issue now but I haven't found content where I noticed it glaringly at all personally. I guess a few odd games exacerbate the issue though from people's reports.

abl/asbl - I never disabled asbl so mentioned it as disabling brightness limiter generally I guess :rolleyes:
I keep all of the protections on as I'm using as media and gaming display primarily. Thanks for the clarification though :D

I don't use BFI either as it doesn't work with VRR, works best with very high frame rate *minimums*, dims the screen luminance and is incompatible with HDR and auto HDR capable titles. I also find that kind of thing eye faitiguing over time even if not consciously noticing the flickering.

Edit: Dolby Vision being washed out was another issue at one point but they fixed that in firmware updates.
 
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