LG 48CX

gan7114 said:
Gaming for a couple hours won't do anything.

LG's OLED TVs have a few methods by which to mitigate the potential for burn in, both when the TV is on and off. It's an important point that is often not discussed, and is something generally not seen in OLED monitors. And in my opinion, image retention is more of a serious concern than burn in. Most of the bad rap came from LG's early OLED TVs, like the 6 series. For example, the C6 scored a (terrible) 1.3 / 10 for image retention at Rtings back in 2016. Fast forward 3 generations, and the C9 scored a perfect 10 / 10 for (no) image retention.

If you do a few simple user-end adjustments like Kasakka mentioned above, you won't have any worry using OLED on the desktop or gaming.
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And it's saying something I've uesed a c6 for my gaming rig till I updated to my c9 this year and never had any major burn in that I could see unless I uesed solid colored screens looking for it and it was very slight.....oled burn in is so over rated I uesed a pdp before and it/burn in was a thing on that. I feel as long as you don't leave it on the same game/desktop 24/7 you will be fine even playing poe for like 10 hours a day years ago never burned in on the c6
 
tunatime said:
And it's saying something I've uesed a c6 for my gaming rig till I updated to my c9 this year and never had any major burn in that I could see unless I uesed solid colored screens looking for it and it was very slight.....oled burn in is so over rated I uesed a pdp before and it/burn in was a thing on that. I feel as long as you don't leave it on the same game/desktop 24/7 you will be fine even playing poe for like 10 hours a day years ago never burned in on the c6
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Ditto. I also have the C6 and have not experienced any image retention that didnt go away, owned the display for about 3 years now. No fears about burn-in here, especially that they've continued to increase resilience against it in the newer sets.

As for this 48CX - I think 48" is still too big for me to use as a PC display. I could make it work - but ideally, I'd want something in the 32" - 40" range on my desk. So I'll be waiting a while longer.
 
x3sphere said:
As for this 48CX - I think 48" is still too big for me to use as a PC display. I could make it work - but ideally, I'd want something in the 32" - 40" range on my desk. So I'll be waiting a while longer.
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I whispered in Ras' ear over at FlatpanelsHD for him to ask LG's CES reps about future 40-43" OLED options. I said we want them, he said he would. :)
 
Keller1 said:
Keep in mind, they can't satisfy the TV demand yet, either. I'm still not sure if making these TVs so attractive to monitor enthusisiaists is genuinely two markets starting to overlap or them cheekily testing the waters.
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It has been heading this way for a while now.

Monitor makers can't deliver what is needed in such a small market vs TVs, plus consoles require VRR, HDMI 2, 120Hz and HDR in next generation. Great response times are also a real plus, closer to CRT but with better colour..
First time I saw original Star Wars on OLED it really blew my mind, the difference it could make to an old movie; it made things apparent where the future was.
 
SOLD!

I wonder if Sony and Panasonic will have access to the panels this year. I prefer Sony’s image processing. Lately though their input lag has been junk (Android?) so I may just go with LG.
 
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zehoo said:
SOLD!

I wonder if Sony and Panasonic will have access to the panels this year. I prefer Sony’s image processing. Lately though their input lag has been junk though (Android?) so I may just go with LG.
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Realistically you'd want as little processing as possible...
 
Sony has (allegedly, I've seen both and imo there's basically no difference on the 2019 models) slightly better motion processing, but that only matters for low fps content, not PC use. LG is actually better at near-black content, and if you are using the display in game mode at 120hz, you'd have almost all processing disabled anyways.
 
Oh for gaming I’d naturally have the processing off. I just have a bias/preference for the way Sony does things with TVs if I want to watch stuff on it. We'll see how it pans out. I’m actually expecting Sony to drop the ball on input latency again, so I’ll end up with an LG.
 
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I bought LG 34UM95 (21:9 3440x1440) back in 2014. Given the current sad state of PC monitors, I am thinking cx48 may be my best path in 2020. Upgrading to Ampere Ti (from 1080 Ti) should provide enough horsepower to move to 4k gaming (if the current performance rumors turn out to be true). And finally Zen 3 / Ryzen 4000 will be out as well just in time to replace my aging 4790K. 2020 will be a fun year :]
 
Vega said:
48CX my next display.
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All I needed , if Vega is getting it. In all seriousness I’ll be picking this up. Should be able to get 300 or so for my 165hz Asus so maybe another 700 for this. I have paid a lot more for monitors in the past. Also have to sell my dual 1080’s once the new cards with hdmi 2.1 finally come out. This should check all the boxes for a long time to come. The TN panel I have now just looks so washed out and lacks the depth I like with a better contrast ratio. My projector has a 160,000:1 native contrast ratio and is amazing. This with infinite contrast with games should be awesome. Plus the better motion with OLED.
 
x3sphere said:
Ditto. I also have the C6 and have not experienced any image retention that didnt go away, owned the display for about 3 years now. No fears about burn-in here, especially that they've continued to increase resilience against it in the newer sets.

As for this 48CX - I think 48" is still too big for me to use as a PC display. I could make it work - but ideally, I'd want something in the 32" - 40" range on my desk. So I'll be waiting a while longer.
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Co-signed, B6 owner for over three years now, used primarily as a PC monitor. Burn-in not sighted as of yet.
 
Updates on LG's X series OLED TVs via FlatpanelsHD:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1578322870

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delita said:
Per that post - looks like the entire range should have 4K120hz and VRR, 48" included - meaning, 100% chance I buy this as my new monitor in 2020. Now give me a damn release date.
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I think March-April is usually when LG releases their new/updated models.
 
Going to get this holiday 2020 or early 2021. Hoping to scoop 77" C9 for Super Bowl weekend under $3K.
 
LG pretty much hit all the notes in their keynote.

NVIDIA, release a damn HDMI 2.1 capable GPU already.

*Insert "Take My Money" picture here*
 
Looks like they went all out for the gamers on these. I can definitely wait if they are due out in March. Looks like a full out winner. It’s a little big but if I mount it flush with the wall and pull my desk out about 5 inches I’ll be 3 foot from it. So that should work out about perfect.
 
Looks like buying a C9 on sale was a good idea. Nothing worth getting the C10 for except the 48" size model.
 
Nothing too great on the Flat Panel HD link. Hopefully there's some more/official info soon. A newer processor and some new gimmicky modes but that's about it. Hoping there was something mentioned about better sustained brightness, new technologies for reduced screen burn in (yes I know it's not really an issue), confirmed eARC fix (besides the future firmware update), HDR10+, 120HZ BFI, etc.

Going to assume I'll take a financial loss going from a 55" C9 to a 48" C10. I'm already on a couch setup (still close to the TV though) so not too sure if the increased DPI and very minor improvements will be worth it.
 
Def grabbing that 48” Oled. The 7” reduction from 55” makes it much more manageable. Will probably run it @ 1080 because of the distance away and enjoy the OLED goodness..
 
Seyumi said:
Nothing too great on the Flat Panel HD link. Hopefully there's some more/official info soon. A newer processor and some new gimmicky modes but that's about it. Hoping there was something mentioned about better sustained brightness, new technologies for reduced screen burn in (yes I know it's not really an issue), confirmed eARC fix (besides the future firmware update), HDR10+, 120HZ BFI, etc.
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Take this with a grain of salt but early reports are looking promising in regards to those issues: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...d65cx-oled-tv-first-impressions/#31f74b437779
 
Now all they have to do is somehow make VRR or GSync work in windowed mode. Imagine playing at 1440p in borderless windowed mode while having the rest of the screen restate for other crap like web browsers. This pretty much emulates multi-monitor setup with a single display.
 
realworld said:
Now all they have to do is somehow make VRR or GSync work in windowed mode. Imagine playing at 1440p in borderless windowed mode while having the rest of the screen restate for other crap like web browsers. This pretty much emulates multi-monitor setup with a single display.
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G-sync has been working fine in windowed mode for years, I think Freesync does it too now (?)
 
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MaZa said:
My greatest fear right now is that they decide to nerf the 48" version and make it 60hz only and lack VRR, just to prevent it from competing with their gaming monitors or out of sheer stupidity. I swear I will strangle a plushie puppy if LG pulls that stunt. :mad::cry:
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check out this write up

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...d65cx-oled-tv-first-impressions/#6ea394657779

He covers the improvements in the new cx line, it seems like the new processors are able to deliver more brightness and highlights, perhaps better than the current Sony x1 chips. And they showed the 48 inch hooked up to a gaming pc, it is listed as supporting vrr and 120Hz. Not sure what the lower edge of the range is, but the 2019 oleds start at 48Hz-120Hz, so it's likely no worse than that and possibly better.

And there was mention that input lag might be as low as 5ms... not sure if that's true, but if it is...

It's over. the gaming market for shit tier displays is effing over. Let them all writhe in fire and wither and die. gtfo with 360Hz displays at 1080 and midget sizes and terrible contrast. Give me this.

Also, sony is getting the 48" oled panels for 2020 too, so there might be two premium larger pc gaming displays. Now we just need the gpu makers to release cards with hdmi 2.1
 
Bigmonitorguy said:
No, it's not possible to sort it out with Cleartype settings. I've tried all combinations... Cleartype as implemented today doesn't work well with the sub-pixel structure that LG uses on their OLED TVs. The font rendering on these TVs is significantly inferior to what you get on a good LCD monitor.
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I'd rather stop reading on my pc display entirely to get that picture. Just grunt into a mic if you all want to send messages to me.
 
zehoo said:
SOLD!

I wonder if Sony and Panasonic will have access to the panels this year. I prefer Sony’s image processing. Lately though their input lag has been junk (Android?) so I may just go with LG.
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Not sure about Panasonic, but sony is getting the 48" oled too.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...led-and-8k4k-full-array-led-tvs/#5523a2436640

Will be interesting to see if lgs new a3 enhancements are enough to beat out whatever the latest tweaks to sonys x1 might be this year. Either way, it's exciting. Sony has higher input lag so I wonder if they will get that down for this year? Again, several things to look into for the future.
 
tybert7 said:
check out this write up

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...d65cx-oled-tv-first-impressions/#6ea394657779

He covers the improvements in the new cx line, it seems like the new processors are able to deliver more brightness and highlights, perhaps better than the current Sony x1 chips. And they showed the 48 inch hooked up to a gaming pc, it is listed as supporting vrr and 120Hz. Not sure what the lower edge of the range is, but the 2019 oleds start at 48Hz-120Hz, so it's likely no worse than that and possibly better.

And there was mention that input lag might be as low as 5ms... not sure if that's true, but if it is...

It's over. the gaming market for shit tier displays is effing over. Let them all writhe in fire and wither and die. gtfo with 360Hz displays at 1080 and midget sizes and terrible contrast. Give me this.

Also, sony is getting the 48" oled panels for 2020 too, so there might be two premium larger pc gaming displays. Now we just need the gpu makers to release cards with hdmi 2.1
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This is the endgame 2D display. I can handle the size. After this it is all about VR.
 
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