Does Far Cry 2 ever get interesting?

[VorpalBFG]

Gonna pass on this one as well. Looks like another Assassin's Creed. Dead space owns and Fallout 3 is out in a few days. Oh yeah!

 

[Riftsaw]

Nope.

The lead up to the ending made me feel like crap. The last 5 missions or so just up and killed my buzz. Seriously what the fuck was that Ubisoft?

 

[kadozer]

With all its mechanics and viewing angle flaws Dead Space is more fun than FC2. The combat was disappointing for me in FC2.

 

[Spare-Flair]

What a shame since the engine is amazing. The gameplay is arcady and the physics are really entertaining. The visuals are awesome. There is some incredibly beautiful level design in there too..

But man. Assasin's Creed all over again except instead of riding your horse around to do the same mission over and over and over and over again, you ride a jeep.

For some reason, I expected the "sandbox world" to be more like Oblivion or Stalker...but nope. EVERYBODY is against you and there are respawning enemies everywhere. That's pretty stupid. The factions are useless since it's basically you versus everybody.

What I can say in it's defense is that I had some LOL moments like I haven't had in years in just pure fun and adrenaline rushes. I shot out one guy's gunner with a handgun and he was on the other side of a bridge. He started to drive at me at full speed to ram me, but for some reason, he decided to grab the roll bar and swing himself up to the machine gun to shoot me. I sniped him in the neck when he was in mid movement going from driver's seat to machine gun. He flew out of the jeep and the jeep for some reason did a random left turn and flew off the bridge into the water. It was hilarious.

 

[Silus]

LOL this thread is hilarious!

Before Far Cry 2 came out: "Crysis SUCKS! Far Cry 2 is going to be so much better", "Crytek SUCKS! They only make pretty engines, but their games blow!". "In Far Cry 2 we only fight against people. No aliens or mutants like in Crysux games, that's so much better"

After Far Cry 2 was released: "Far Cry 2 is boring, Crysis WarHead is so much better and fun to play". "Far Cry 2 has no diversity in enemies"

I see that there's a new target of the internet hate

 

[Spare-Flair]

Biggest problem is the super lame "only 1 mission at a time thing".

If they fix that and you could just do missions you sign up for along the way when you encounter them (instead of driving across the entire world or in circles), it would be 10000x better.

Like Oblivion, quests just add up and you can do them whenever, whenever you come across one, or systematically as you move across the map etc.

 

[spicey]

Biggest problem is the super lame "only 1 mission at a time thing".

If they fix that and you could just do missions you sign up for along the way when you encounter them (instead of driving across the entire world or in circles), it would be 10000x better.

Like Oblivion, quests just add up and you can do them whenever, whenever you come across one, or systematically as you move across the map etc.

I hear you. One mission at a time is a joke. It would have been more involving and fun to have multiple missions going on at once. Design fail

I started to use the buses but there are only 5 bus stations meaning spending hours travelling around to inaccessible parts. Design fail

The respawning is unreal, I've tried driving through but normally I get chased down so have to fight. Design fail

I have tried and tried to like this game but no I can't. Repetitive, dull, boring, vacuous, tedious, yawn, zzzzz, snore - uninstalled!!

 

[Roberty]

I agree with most on here that the gameplay is boring. I loved Far Cry and had high hopes for Far Cry 2. Sadly, this is Far Cry 2 in name only....

I probably won't even bother to try and finish it (and that's extremely rare for me). They could have done so much but didn't. And it sure doesn't feel like a first person shooter to me.

 

[xappie]

You know... the voice acting is just so incredibly horrendous in this game that I wonder if there isn't something going on. I mean, I can't fathom ANY actor ever delivering these types of performances and thinking they are good. They are just so rushed and monotonous... it has to be on purpose. I wonder if the actors had some sort of disagreement about something and said "screw it, well just read the lines and not act at all." Seriously - I can't even sound that bad if I try! I was trying to convey to the wife how bad the acting was, but I just couldn't do it badly enough - I had to go and load a save game and let her see for herself!

 

[Citizen86]

Don't forget you have malaria... You shouldn't even be walking! Two or more missions would probably make your head hurt too much

 

[fantome2024]

this game really disappointed me I was hoping for a much better experience out of farcry 2.

 

[Q-BZ]

At least once a year there has to be at least one game, on average, where the hype is unbelievable and is even helped out by propogandic glowingly high reviews and the game ends up being...way the hell less.

Far Cry 2 has to be "that game" this year.

The honeymoon and afterglow of this game ended for me about an hour into it. I'm wondering if some of these review outlets simply reviewed the game while in the state of "afterglow" because if they spent a good number of hours with it like many of us have...I just don't see how you come out with 9/10, 94/100 scores and the like. There's just no way.

I spent another 2 hours yesterday making myself play this game. I took on a few missions for the arms dealer and Wally and others are right: You pursue that convoy and you may as well sit in a spot and cool your heels because the damned thing travels in a circle and will eventually come to you anyways.

I see people talk about doing stealth in this game. How? I've tried creeping up as quietly as I can from behind and the enemy ALWAYS sees me and starts shooting from a long ways away.

I stand by my earlier assessment back on page 4 of this thread.

I simply turned the game off without even bothering to save after a point because I simply lost interest in what I was doing and I felt that there was no point in anything I was doing.

The respawns are way too fast and frequent to be a "realistic changing or replacing of guards that get wiped out."

If you want a good laugh and an extreme example of how ridiculous this is, take a trainer for a moment and enable God mode and unlimited Ammo. Go to the opening city that we all begin in where the preacher is and some of the missions are.

Pick a spot right outside past one of the concrete road block. The one I like is the one facing the road to the bar. Stand in front of that road block and just start opening fire and throwing nades left and right like a madman. Throw a bunch of moltov cocktails as well and really get the place on fire and lit up. Create as much havoc and destruction as you possibly can and simply watch what happens.

I did this for about 5 minutes straight and I must have killed at least 100 guys, mostly respawns of the same handful of guys in the street. Over and over and over again endlessly.

This is simply ludicrous and pointless and that's the way it is the entire game regardless of how large and open the rather bland and depressing world is.

You can't even really destroy something permanently as buildings, structures, and trees/foliage "respawn" as well.

Why even bother to get into a fight or shoot anyone at all? That's finally where I got yesterday afternoon and I simply shut the game off.

The malaria thing is tacked on the top of this as an annoying contrivance that really shouldn't have been included in the first place.

This game is a really gorgeous sandbox tech demo. That's all it is to me.

I probably won't fire it up again until I see at least one robust patch and at least one very compelling mod out there. I may even uninstall it outright and get some room back on my hard drive.

A lot of people were/are very harsh on Crysis and to a lesser extent Warhead. I had a way better experience from day one with Crysis and far more enjoyable vs. Far Cry 2 in its present state. I easily view Crysis and Crysis Warhead as superior games to Far Cry 2.

I even think the first Far Cry is a much better game overall (until the aliens show up) vs. Far Cry 2 right now in its present state. As different as they are from each other, I think Dead Space is a much better game and better at what it does vs. the way Far Cry 2 is right now.

I fully expect Fallout 3 to be a much better game than Far Cry 2 as well. That's my two cents on it all.

 

[grendel240sx]

Gonna return this tonight and check out either midnight club 2 or lego batman... then swap that one tomorrow for Fallout 3

 

[Arkangyl]

My problem with FarCry 2 is that it looked like it was going to be a sandbox FPS with a lot of action and an interesting story regarding arms dealing in Africa.

Instead I'm in a pseudo-sandbox where I can go many places, but not anywhere (ex. the taller mountains that flank everything, I'd love to go snipe up there!). The story consists of randomly wanting to kill this dude who let me live, and that's somehow accomplished by doing grunt work for 2 factions.

It honestly and truly feels like a consolized STALKER (in an open world on a quest to kill some dude).

Really it just makes me want to go re-play FarCry 1 with the HDR patch.

My main problem is with all the focus on creating a 'living, breathing world' where all the NPCs have a personality, these games completely forget to give YOU a personality. Sure the idea seems to be that it's you and you decide, but my belief is that games should be more like playing through a good movie than you just being in an environment trying to follow a story without making you follow it (but kinda making you regardless).

Also the draw of a sandbox game is NOT traversing a map in so many ways the traveling salesman begins to weep. Rather it should be about designing your own approach to taking out a base. At least, this seems to be what 95% of people want; despite what we say, a linear shooter that gives us options about how to approach a base will probably be more fun than a sandbox made up of numerous paths.

 

[oqvist]

Nobody complainted about Gordon Freemans lack of personality... Jack Carver didn´t have much either.

I can understand that the COD people that want non stop action don´t like this game but seriously as a sandbox fps it´s great fun. It just gets more interesting the more I play. Love stop the convoy missions though a bit to easy since I invested in the bombs lol... Blow up the first car then snipe the rest. Sure it´s not the perfect game nothing is though Ubisoft is great making us believe it every time of course but seriously all that matters in sandbox fps games is the combat. The mouse lag need to be fixed for sure that is the only major issue with this game except for I don´t see a reason to label it Far Cry 2 doesn´t have that much in common.

Arkangyl you are pretty much exactly explaining Crysis. I do agree it does this even better but then Crysis is quite near perfection. But actually I feel more immersed in my Far Cry 2 character then the Crysis... I am being there screwing everybody rather then fighting for a "good" cause

 

[polonyc2]

seems like the only reason your character has malaria is so that he can be made to do those 'Underground' missions to find medicine which tacks on another few hours

the mini map sucks...doesn't give you an accurate representation of the distance to your target...a lot of times it shows you that you are right next to the target then all of a sudden the target just moves half the map away (and these are not even the convoy missions, the straight up missions do the same thing)...not to mention that the mountains seem to block my path when following the map

I try to just run past the guard posts as engaging them is pointless because of the re-spawns...but like others have said a few of them always wind up chasing you

 

[SixtyWattMan]

Biggest problem is the super lame "only 1 mission at a time thing".

If they fix that and you could just do missions you sign up for along the way when you encounter them (instead of driving across the entire world or in circles), it would be 10000x better.

Like Oblivion, quests just add up and you can do them whenever, whenever you come across one, or systematically as you move across the map etc.

Even if you could take more than one mission it wouldn't be enough to save the game from being repetitive, although I do think it would have made the game that much more enjoyable.

 

[Q-BZ]

Nobody complainted about Gordon Freemans lack of personality... Jack Carver didn´t have much either.

Except both of those characters are in far better games with much better stories (at least in regards to HL although I think Far Cry 1 is better in a good number of respects to FC2 as well.)

Obviously the HL games are way more linear but I don't think FC2 can tie the HL games' shoes when it comes to storyline and having an actual point and purpose to what you're doing and an overall sense of progress and accomplishment.

Even FC1 was considerably better at all of these things than FC2 is, at least IMO.

I can wreak havoc in Crysis or FC1 and it actually means something. The people and structures that get destroyed don't almost immediately respawn in my face into infinity.

In Crysis, if I kill people and destroy structures, guess what? They stay that way as they should.

I can understand that the COD people that want non stop action don´t like this game but seriously as a sandbox fps it´s great fun.

It's fun for a 30 minute jam session in between other games.

What's fun about wreaking havoc and then taking a brief walk, turning around and everyone and everything is right back in pristine condition?

What's fun about not having any point to doing anything in the game? There's no point in even shooting or fighting or destroying anything because it all comes back at the drop of a hat anyways.

It just gets more interesting the more I play.

Sadly, it's been the exact opposite for me.

Love stop the convoy missions though a bit to easy since I invested in the bombs lol... Blow up the first car then snipe the rest. Sure it´s not the perfect game nothing is though Ubisoft is great making us believe it every time of course but seriously all that matters in sandbox fps games is the combat.

Not exactly.

The mouse lag need to be fixed for sure that is the only major issue with this game except for that I don´t see a reason to label it Far Cry 2 doesn´t have that much in common.

Agreed.

The game should be called: Really nice tech demo.

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Biggest problem is the super lame "only 1 mission at a time thing".

If they fix that and you could just do missions you sign up for along the way when you encounter them (instead of driving across the entire world or in circles), it would be 10000x better.

Like Oblivion, quests just add up and you can do them whenever, whenever you come across one, or systematically as you move across the map etc.

I think you're on to something here but all that's doing on its face is lumping a bunch of repetitive missions at one time vs. the current setup.

I think Oblivion is way more successful in again putting the character in an immersive story in an open world where you can do things that actually have some kind of permanant affect on the world. Except for certain critical NPCs, I can kill someone in Oblivion and they actually die and stay dead. Imagine that!

I just don't buy this "If you don't like FC2 you must not like any and all open world games because this is the way they all are" argument I've been seeing from some. That simply isn't true.

 

[strend]

I'll be the odd guy here and say I'm really enjoying the game.

It's very much like Assassins Creed for me(and I loved AC) in that it's as fun as you make it. As long as you don't harp on the missed opportunities and enjoy the game for what it does right, it's an amazing game. I'm about 60% of the way through and still having a blast.

1/2 mile+ away convoy kills with the Mortar never get old

 

[Litfod]

At least once a year there has to be at least one game, on average, where the hype is unbelievable and is even helped out by propogandic glowingly high reviews and the game ends up being...way the hell less.

...

I fully expect Fallout 3 to be a much better game than Far Cry 2 as well.

Hmm, well, we'll see how Fallout turns out soon enough.

Love stop the convoy missions though a bit to easy since I invested in the bombs lol... Blow up the first car then snipe the rest.

Or, easier still, blow up the middle truck and run away.

 

[VorpalBFG]

I can't wait for the Fallout 3 hate thread

 

[The Hedon]

Indeed....in short order the GOW2 and Fallout 3 hate threads will be monopolizing the threads.

 

[grendel240sx]

I can't wait for the Fallout 3 hate thread

Impossible!

 

[oqvist]

That is not what I learned in IL 2... You take out the first trucks first so the other ones get sitting targets .

 

[Artificiary]

Man, this thread sucks! I just got the game working “crash-free” over the weekend, and have only been able to play for a couple of hours (or 5.0% which I enjoyed quite a bit). Now after reading a good portion of the thread, it sounds like that’s the most fun I’m going to have playing the game. What’s really disappointing is the fact that I bought Far Cry 2 instead of Dead Space or Fable 2 based on the damn previews.

Maybe I’ll just skip my usual method of clearing all the side quests first and focus only on advancing the main story line to complete the game. Hopefully I won’t be too disappointed.

 

[CrimsonKnight13]

I even think the first Far Cry is a much better game overall (until the aliens show up) vs. Far Cry 2 right now in its present state. As different as they are from each other, I think Dead Space is a much better game and better at what it does vs. the way Far Cry 2 is right now.

I fully expect Fallout 3 to be a much better game than Far Cry 2 as well. That's my two cents on it all.

Aliens in FC1? They were mutants the whole entire way through the game.

All of the reasons that everyone has stated, good & bad, have allowed me to decide to not buy it all or wait for it to be a bargain buy.

I'll utilize my money a lot better by playing Dead Space & Fall Out 3 this week.

Thanks for the complete run-down of the game, [H]ers.

 

[SixtyWattMan]

Indeed....in short order the GOW2 and Fallout 3 hate threads will be monopolizing the threads.

People do complain a lot, but this is honestly a really bad game. I didn't see a bunch of TF2 or STALKER hate threads. You talk like we complain about everything. Far Cry 2 is one of the most boring games I have ever played in my life.

I really wish I could go back in time and never have to experience this pile of shit ever again. I would rather sit in a dark empty room by myself than play Far Cry 2, that's how bad it is. I've never said shit like this about a game, I'm honestly kind of pissed I wasted to hours of my life on this "game". Fuck you Ubisoft.

 

[The Hedon]

And yet there are many others, including myself, loving this game. At least on the 360 that is. I haven't experienced it on the PC.

Then again, we all know that the PC isn't getting the same love it used to, so they must be neglecting it

 

[SixtyWattMan]

And yet there are many others, including myself, loving this game. At least on the 360 that is. I haven't experienced it on the PC.

Then again, we all know that the PC isn't getting the same love it used to, so they must be neglecting it

No the game runs fine on PC and it's one of the first DX10 games to actually run better in DX10. The game got everything it needed to run great on PC except being fun. Unless the 360 version is drastically different (it's the same) then I won't like it on there either.

 

[The Hedon]

No the game runs fine on PC and it's one of the first DX10 games to actually run better in DX10. The game got everything it needed to run great on PC except being fun. Unless the 360 version is drastically different (it's the same) then I won't like it on there either.

How is it the same. I just read that there was nobody playing online in the PC version (tons of peeps online in the 360 version), I just read that you can't join a server game in progress (you can join a game in progress on the 360) and I just read that you get kicked after the round on the PC (you are not kicked on the 360).

How is that the same?

 

[magoo]

I've played this game for about three hours.
It ISN"T FarCry like we know it at all. It's more like STALKER goes to the jungle and gets to drive a Jeep.

But..........the missions are all the same so far.
There is ALOT of down time traveling around, unless you take the bus.
The bad guys can really take alot of damage (unrealistic).

I bought it, so I'm going to see it through, but so far it is not on my list of good games.

I'm skeptical to purchase Fallout at this point.

and, I really like STALKER, but two of the same just don't cut it.

Warhead was better.

 

[Vader]

I see the fundamental flaw with all Crytek games has reared it's head once again. Excellent graphics with awesome visuals attached to a boring game with limited AI and shabby storyline. I uninstalled this after the first mission, along with Crysis...I should've known better.

 

[bonsai]

I love how everyone bitches about how it takes 4-5 shots to take down an enemy, yet they don't complain that the player can take like 10 hits and still be alive. If you're crying about realism and that the bad guys should go down in 2-3 hits, then you should go down in 2-3 hits too.

 

[pigpen]

I haven't played it, but have been terribly disappointed reading through this thread. Far Cry is definitely a top 3 game for me. Makes you wonder how these studios are able to do it once, and then fuck up the sequels sooooooo bad. It's like a band having one hit song, and then never being able to make the charts again. One hit wonder.

 

[xappie]

I haven't played it, but have been terribly disappointed reading through this thread. Far Cry is definitely a top 3 game for me. Makes you wonder how these studios are able to do it once, and then fuck up the sequels sooooooo bad. It's like a band having one hit song, and then never being able to make the charts again. One hit wonder.

Far Cry was developed by Crytek Studios, Far Cry 2 was developed by Ubisoft Montreal.

 

[Citizen86]

I see the fundamental flaw with all Crytek games has reared it's head once again. Excellent graphics with awesome visuals attached to a boring game with limited AI and shabby storyline. I uninstalled this after the first mission, along with Crysis...I should've known better.

WRONG. Far Cry 2 = Ubisoft.

 

[AceGoober]

I love playing Far Cry 2! The environment is beautiful. AI will try flanking maneuvers and toss grenades at you. AI driven jeeps will try to run you down or smash directly into your vehicle. Snipers are fairly accurate.

I don't mind having to re-capture check-points. I look at it like a game of Capture the Flag. First they have it now I have it. and back and forth it goes.

The only glitch I've witnessed so far is the AI's driving ability. I've seen several AI driving boats into the embankment over and over again, unable to re-direct their course around it. AI fares much better with vehicles though it is quite funny seeing them run over their own guys.

 

[xappie]

That reminds me... has anyone actually had AI jump out of the way when you try to run them over? They just stand there for me... kinda lame.

 

[magoo]

That reminds me... has anyone actually had AI jump out of the way when you try to run them over? They just stand there for me... kinda lame.

No but an antelope did.
Antelope=smart, AI enemy=dumb.

 

[AceGoober]

No but an antelope did.
Antelope=smart, AI enemy=dumb.

An antelope ran into the front grill of my jeep and fell over dead. Funny stuff!