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Dell U2412M
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That does look bad. Hope your new one is better! Btw, did you call dell tech suport for exchange or just customer service?
My new U2412m is not playing nice with my late-2008 Macbook Pro running Lion 10.7.1. It worked fine for a day with a miniDisplayPort to Displayport cable, but now when I connect it the laptop screen goes blue for a minute (as it usually does when I connect a monitor) but the 2412 then goes into powersave mode and all I get is black screen.
If I connect it with a miniDisplayPort to DVI dongle, it does work however.
If I connect it with a miniDisplayPort to DVI dongle, it does work however.
Correct, no display port cable.
Couldn't be happier with this monitor, great colours, 16:10 and best of all no ghosting or lag is visible and I'm normally pretty sensitive to it.
Sounds excellent. I earlier narrowed my monitor choice list down to U2412M, P2412H, or Samsung S24A650D. After further in-store research, I think I will go with the U2412M.
Does U2412M have any ghosting, response time, or other viewing limitations specifically when watching DVD or Blu-ray movies?
I don't know if this makes sense but I've delayed my purchase in the hope that any initial start-up manufacturing issues with the U2412M will be resolved after a few months. Seem reasonable?
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Well it hasn't really been a few months, but for $300-$320 I think it's unmatched... A few months ago the best that got you was a 23" 16:9 NEC with a lot more issues (than what I've seen in this thread) and a weaker warranty/support, and it was closer to $350.
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking too. Actually $300 is the top of my price range for a monitor so I hope I can get it at that price. Would you happen to know if watching DVD or Blu-ray movies on U2412M produces any kind of viewing limitations such as ghosting, motion blurring, or response time problems? It's a secondary concern of mine but I'm still interested in knowing before I buy.
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No. But this is assuming you're using a PC to play the blurays, which will work great.. If you plug in a stand-alone bluray player directly, the aspect ratio will be wrong (no 1:1 16:9 mode).
For those that have the U2412M, are the viewing angles great even when using the display in portrait mode? My primary intent of the display is to use it in portrait mode for programming. I have a TN monitor at work, and it has a horrible viewing angle from anything off center such that even looking straight on, the edges lose contrast. I have the 2209WA at home and love it.
Works fine. Only TN has this issue with portrait.
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in any case the text is not as sharp as in landscape mode with every technology.
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has anyone had issues with the sides of the screen being noticable darker than the centre ?? I've had it for about a week now and it hasn't changed.
There's zero blb and I love the screen other than the fact that left and right side are so much darker, especially noticable with light/white backgrounds..
There's zero blb and I love the screen other than the fact that left and right side are so much darker, especially noticable with light/white backgrounds..
I could say mine has this very very slightly, but I really have to look for it. If it bothers you RMA it for back-light inconsistency.
No idea. I got transferred twice before someone finally processed the return.
Hi,
I just got my U2412M today. I am quite happy with it for the most part, its my first real foray into large LCD from my 20" CRT. The wife didn't want me to have a giant LCD in the living room where I had to move my computer.. so.. down to the basement it went. Anyway..
The only oddness I have with this monitor is a slightly darker band along the very bottom of the display. I do not know if it is just the way these giant IPS screens are, perhaps the result of the anti-glare coating. Its not a show stopper.. but I am not sure if it is typical or if it is a black light anomaly. Does anyone have experience with this?
Its area maybe 50 pixels wide along the bottom. Its not noticeable if I scrunch to look straight on at it but becomes noticeable if I am looking at it from a normal perspective. Its not a show stopper but I do not notice the same effect on my friend's larger TN panels.
Thanks,
Chris
I just got my U2412M today. I am quite happy with it for the most part, its my first real foray into large LCD from my 20" CRT. The wife didn't want me to have a giant LCD in the living room where I had to move my computer.. so.. down to the basement it went. Anyway..
The only oddness I have with this monitor is a slightly darker band along the very bottom of the display. I do not know if it is just the way these giant IPS screens are, perhaps the result of the anti-glare coating. Its not a show stopper.. but I am not sure if it is typical or if it is a black light anomaly. Does anyone have experience with this?
Its area maybe 50 pixels wide along the bottom. Its not noticeable if I scrunch to look straight on at it but becomes noticeable if I am looking at it from a normal perspective. Its not a show stopper but I do not notice the same effect on my friend's larger TN panels.
Thanks,
Chris
Has anyone compared the AG Coating used on the screen of the U2412 to the U2410, I had the U2711 and I hated it so much I sent it back. I have read reviews in TFT Central and the reviewer said to his eyes it appears a lot less aggressive.
I have a Asus P246Q and it cost a lot of money $A600 I'm sending it back due to one dead pixel and a flickering jumpy screen.
I liked the monitor a lot and the AG coating on that screen wasn't too aggressive but decided I don't need to spend that much money and also I really only need a standard gamut monitor for my photo editing, wide gamut monitors are too much of a nuisance for me, unless you put it in srgb emulation and then the colours looked too washed out for my tastes.
I have a Asus P246Q and it cost a lot of money $A600 I'm sending it back due to one dead pixel and a flickering jumpy screen.
I liked the monitor a lot and the AG coating on that screen wasn't too aggressive but decided I don't need to spend that much money and also I really only need a standard gamut monitor for my photo editing, wide gamut monitors are too much of a nuisance for me, unless you put it in srgb emulation and then the colours looked too washed out for my tastes.
Thanks for that info, as long as it is no harsher as I could live with the Asus screen coating.
Turn the brightness all the way up and all the way down and see if it gets more prominent. Another trick is to use a camera to take a shot with something like 1/500 aperture and then throw the photo into a basic photo program and crank up the contrast. This should give you a better idea if you have backlight uniformity issues.
Also, another thing is to put up a white screen and view it from a distance.
See what you think. If it's not tolerable, by all means RMA it.
The later Dell U2410 screens were close to the Asus screens because they were likely using the same batch of the same panels. As Snowdog said, they are functionally the same monitor, even showing some of the same non-linear behavior in custom color mode according to Prad.
The U2412M will definitely be no worse in terms of anti-glare. I've seen the Asus PA246Q and ZR24W at a store and I can say that it is very close to the U2412M, or that the U2412M is very slightly better.
Jumping on this bandwagon too. My U2412M arrived today and I had about 15 minutes at lunch to mess around with it and get a couple of quick BFBC2 games in. Having never owned an IPS panel in the past, I now see what I've been missing all these years.
A quick glance at LightRoom and some of my recent pics revealed more detail than I've ever seen in my past TN panels. Gaming was nice and responsive with no anomalies that I could detect. At first glance, I don't think I have any back lighting or uniformity issues but I'll probably take a harder look at this later on this evening.
Fantastic monitor!
A quick glance at LightRoom and some of my recent pics revealed more detail than I've ever seen in my past TN panels. Gaming was nice and responsive with no anomalies that I could detect. At first glance, I don't think I have any back lighting or uniformity issues but I'll probably take a harder look at this later on this evening.
Fantastic monitor!
Well I packed my Asus monitor back up waiting for it to be returned for a full refund. I'm back on my old shiny Dell SP2309W, I use to like this screen especially the glossy screen but what a difference when editing photos. So much more detail with the IPS screen and the 16:10 screen ratio is much better my photos are much bigger and easier to edit. I was initially worried about matte screens after becoming use to a glossy screen but thats not an issue now.
I think the Dell U2412 will be all I need, I know the Asus P246Q and the Dell U2410 are suppose to be better monitors but I don't need to pay that premium for a Wide Gamut screen as I mainly use mine for photo editing so sRGB is all I need.The Asus cost me over $A600 so I'm waiting for Dell to have another sale and I hope to get the U2412 for $A279 quiet a saving, the only thing that worries me is the quality control issues with all these IPS monitors.
I think the Dell U2412 will be all I need, I know the Asus P246Q and the Dell U2410 are suppose to be better monitors but I don't need to pay that premium for a Wide Gamut screen as I mainly use mine for photo editing so sRGB is all I need.The Asus cost me over $A600 so I'm waiting for Dell to have another sale and I hope to get the U2412 for $A279 quiet a saving, the only thing that worries me is the quality control issues with all these IPS monitors.
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Got my display today, set it up to 10e's settings.
Looks great, thanks 10e for the work done on this.
Coming from a 19' crt so this thing is awesome.
I'm not super picky and so far, I don't see anyting wrong or to worry about with my
monitor. The AG coating works well for relections, and it doesn't bother me much for text.
I think my crt had it so this display doesn't seem any different to me. Photos are so crisp and the colors are great. I hate oversaturated colors, with 10e's settings, it looks very good. As far as backlight bleed, I'm not looking for it, so for now, it's fine. If I find anything else. I'll be sure to post it here.
Looks great, thanks 10e for the work done on this.
Coming from a 19' crt so this thing is awesome.
I'm not super picky and so far, I don't see anyting wrong or to worry about with my
monitor. The AG coating works well for relections, and it doesn't bother me much for text.
I think my crt had it so this display doesn't seem any different to me. Photos are so crisp and the colors are great. I hate oversaturated colors, with 10e's settings, it looks very good. As far as backlight bleed, I'm not looking for it, so for now, it's fine. If I find anything else. I'll be sure to post it here.
Ugh. I received my replacement from Dell today. There's almost no backlight bleed, but this unit has a stuck pixel
. From my sample size of 2, the quality control on these monitors seems really bad. I'm running a tool that alternates colors to try to fix the stuck pixel, but if this doesn't work I guess I'll try panel #3...Here's the new monitor in a dark room:
deltafarce
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try lightly tapping/massaging the stuck pixel. they've been known to come good with a gentle massage
is it really that big of a deal though ? I seriously don't understand why people are so sensitive to a dead or stuck pixel because in most cases you have to look for it to ever see it.
is it really that big of a deal though ? I seriously don't understand why people are so sensitive to a dead or stuck pixel because in most cases you have to look for it to ever see it.
It gets slightly better with the screen at 100%, slightly worse at 0%. Camera did not show any particular issue although I still need to try bringing it into Lightroom to play with contrast
A white screen viewed from 3-4 feet shows no issues.
I have come to the conclusion what I am seeing is an artifact of the AG coating perhaps compounded by my polarized glasses. My wife doesn't see it at all.. in fact.. she thinks the top is a little brighter rather then the bottom darker. Go figure. Anyway, I can live with it. Not worth taking another chance on the Dell monitor lottery.
I guess my only issue with the monitor remaining is one I have to live with.. the IPS glow. It seems to wash out the blacks on the sides of the screen. It goes away when I view it straight on. From what I understand this is just something that all these panels will do that I need to get used to in exchange for the superior color handling.
Lightroom is great. My few games are great. I am can't wait to try this bad Larry out with Movie Studio! I need to find a game or something with low light scenes so I can see how it is in "night" stuff with lots of darker colors. A little worried the glow will impact that.
Chris
These tricks to fix stuck pixels almost never work. Is it stuck bright or stuck dark?
If dark, I agree they aren't a big deal. I had a stuck pixel on my brand new NEC 2490 UxiSV that I paid $1300 for. Since I had to hunt to find it, I figured it wouldn't be noticeable and it isn't. I might spot it once every few months.
It's stuck bright. It's pretty noticeable on an all-black background, though not very noticeable in other scenarios.
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When I buy a new product I expect it to be free of defects. In the case of stuck pixels, Dell definitely agrees with me since they have an explicit stuck-pixel exchange policy.
The U2412M has a fair bit less lag than the 2407WFP, should have better pixel response especially with dark-on-dark transitions, and slightly better, more accurate colors.
The 2407WFP may have had slightly better off-angle black levels (less white glow) but that's about it.
Horizontal viewing angles are a fair bit better on the U2412M too. That 3d effect when looking at HardForums won't be there. You know, that dark spot in the middle and lighter off-to-side silvery look?
Why not wait for the U2412, not the "m" version.
Why wait at all? I don't have any info on a U2412 (non-M) version, and I doubt anyone else has it either. There may not be a U2412, but it may be a U2413 instead
I got myself this screen. I'm overall happy with it, I don't have any bad backlight bleed or glow except for some very discreet whiteness in the right corners that isn't worth mentioning. It might be because I'm simply unexperienced but it seems to be alright and I'm happy for that. I'm more annoyed by the so called dirty look on the screen from the anti-glare coating (I presume). My old 19" asus had none and this screen look sort of blurrier in comparison. Is it true that almost all modern monitors have this, including TNs?
Now I have two questions:
1. I'm considering buying the mountable Stereo sound bar. Which should I get for compatibility for this model- the ultrasharp one for some reason fail to mention U2412m. Link below.
http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&sku=520-10703
2. The suggested color profile in this thread. Could someone mention the page number, or link... This thread is huge. Sorry.
Now I have two questions:
1. I'm considering buying the mountable Stereo sound bar. Which should I get for compatibility for this model- the ultrasharp one for some reason fail to mention U2412m. Link below.
http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&sku=520-10703
2. The suggested color profile in this thread. Could someone mention the page number, or link... This thread is huge. Sorry.
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Right now I'm in Preset > Custom Color with Red>96, Green>93, and Blue>87 @ brightness of 45 and contrast of 75.
This seems to match the white up to my NEC and the rest of the colors look decent as well, just looking at test images.
Have you tried the TFT Centrals settings I would be interested in what you thought of the, my U2412 is due this week hopefully got it for $340.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm
Got one, too. It's not perfect, but I'm pretty satisfied. I have no issues with backlight bleed, and even IPS glow doesn't bother me (of course, there is some), guess the low brightness helps a lot (currently have it at 32). I'm pleased that brightness can be nicely tuned down. (as a side note, I had returned the ZR24w only because it was too bright!)
Out-of-the-box colors looked not good, somewhat bluish, and the preset modes are useless as can be (as expected, really). Only the "Multimedia" preset looks ok for me. In the end, I've decided for 10e's custom color settings, which are good enough for me.
Responsiveness is quite good from what I've seen, looking forward to play some games on this thing.
The power LED can't be switched off, but not fortunately it's not annoying. And mine is absolutely silent.
One minor issue I have is that the panel is not completely uniform: it seems like on the right half of the screen colors are slightly warmer than on the left. But it's so minimal that, I think, it won't really be visible in practice (when not deliberatly looking for it); probably not worth trying an exchange. Of course, I would love if it were 100% uniform.
Also, the AG coating could be a tad milder to my liking, but I've seen worse
Out-of-the-box colors looked not good, somewhat bluish, and the preset modes are useless as can be (as expected, really). Only the "Multimedia" preset looks ok for me. In the end, I've decided for 10e's custom color settings, which are good enough for me.
Responsiveness is quite good from what I've seen, looking forward to play some games on this thing.
The power LED can't be switched off, but not fortunately it's not annoying. And mine is absolutely silent.
One minor issue I have is that the panel is not completely uniform: it seems like on the right half of the screen colors are slightly warmer than on the left. But it's so minimal that, I think, it won't really be visible in practice (when not deliberatly looking for it); probably not worth trying an exchange. Of course, I would love if it were 100% uniform.
Also, the AG coating could be a tad milder to my liking, but I've seen worse