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Crysis: Warhead reviewed (IGN)!

i'm almost positive that what was believed to be bioshock's own DRM on steam actually turned out to just be a set of registry keys. no securerom. which was also blown out of proportion with the whole can't be installed on more than twice (which turned out to be 2 computers, not twice all together).... why is this brought up? the install limit was lifted anyways. EA turned to steam after all teh negative feedback they were getting from spore. unlike popular beliefs, they would like to sell this to as many people as they can.
 
Imbroglio said:
i'm almost positive that what was believed to be bioshock's own DRM on steam actually turned out to just be a set of registry keys. no securerom. which was also blown out of proportion with the whole can't be installed on more than twice (which turned out to be 2 computers, not twice all together).... why is this brought up? the install limit was lifted anyways.
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well the Steam version of Bioshock did come with the SAME exact Securom as the retail versions did and thats a fact. the Steam version of Crysis is likely to do the same so until its proven that the Steam version doesnt contain it then these people need to stop making stupid comments like "screw DRM Im getting the Steam version".
 
Horrible DRM that tries to tell me my purchased product isn't mine despite the fact that it legally is, = no buy. These idiots need to learn that all it does is lose them money from spending tons of money on DRM software licenses, to integrating it into their game and spending time on it, just to annoy PAYING customers and have little-to-no effect on non-paying customers (pirates).
 
cannondale06 said:
well the Steam version of Bioshock did come with the SAME exact Securom as the retail versions did and thats a fact. the Steam version of Crysis is likely to do the same so until its proven that the Steam version doesnt contain it then these people need to stop making stupid comments like "screw DRM Im getting the Steam version".
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let's clear something up here, seeing as how you appear to be the epitome of the anti-securerom forum posters:

the securerom included with bioshock on steam was an implementation of securerom. not the actual rootkit and reason that securerom is so hated to begin with.

iirc, the "implementation" turned out to be nothing more than a handfull of small files that did registry checks. the key being, no rootkit was installed. this is good news that EA is finally looking towards other distribution methods.
 
Imbroglio said:
let's clear something up here, seeing as how you appear to be the epitome of the anti-securerom forum posters:

the securerom included with bioshock on steam was an implementation of securerom. not the actual rootkit and reason that securerom is so hated to begin with.

iirc, the "implementation" turned out to be nothing more than a handfull of small files that did registry checks. the key being, no rootkit was installed. this is good news that EA is finally looking towards other distribution methods.
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Im not complaining about Securom at all as it never presented any issues to me. Im just saying that the Steam version of Bioshock has the same exact Securom as the retail version except no disc check. NONE of the versions actually installed a true rootkit even though many described it as that.


EDIT: look at this and you will see I am right
http://news.softpedia.com/news/BioShock-FAQ-on-Securom-and-PC-Activation-64428.shtml

How does activation and security measures differ between steam, IGN and retail copies of this game?
They all use the same product activation method. In addition to the product activation, retail copies also have a disc check and Steam uses their own security.


Does SecuROM install a root kit on my computer?
No. SecuROM DOES NOT USE any root kit technology in its implementation. SecuROM Product Activation does place a folder and registry keys on your system. These folders are used only for storage of license information and information to assist with disc authentication. Please do not modify or delete these files. Tampering with these files may result in authentication issues.
 
Good god you people jump to conclusions quickly. I'm getting it on steam because I don't want to be limited by the install limit mostly. I don't have a Blu-ray burner so it's not going to break my ability to burn blu-ray discs or anything. Yes, it may have steam DRM, but that's a whole shitload better than the stuff they put on the disc that is going to make me call 1-800-I-LOVE-EA to get it installed again.
 
FrozenLiquidity said:
Good god you people jump to conclusions quickly. I'm getting it on steam because I don't want to be limited by the install limit mostly. I don't have a Blu-ray burner so it's not going to break my ability to burn blu-ray discs or anything. Yes, it may have steam DRM, but that's a whole shitload better than the stuff they put on the disc that is going to make me call 1-800-I-LOVE-EA to get it installed again.
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did you even read what I said? if its like Bioshock then it will have the same exact DRM on Steam as the retail versions. how many times does that have to be said? :confused:

try and follow along:
Bioshock had 2 install limit on retail and Steam
Bioshock went to 5 install limit on retail and Steam
Bioshock now has no install limit on retail and Steam
 
Sheesh going to get another thread locked :rolleyes:

I am pleased with their review, I really enjoyed Crysis and have played through it so many times now with a souped up nano suit and just had a blast. Cant wait to get into this one and enjoy the added boost to quality and gameplay. Looks good!
 
Hamidxa said:
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Suck it down Crysis haters! ;)
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Because one IGN reviewer's opinion really means squat to me? Just because this guy is on Crytek's knob doesn't mean everything he said about the game is true. I'll judge for myself.

Or maybe I won't, since with Crysis I bought the game, played it through, then sold it in FS/FT. With this new DRM, that would be a highly unsavory option for any prospective buyer as I will have used up at least one of their activations.

Anyone who thinks this protection is meant to curb piracy isn't seeing the big picture. This type of protection is solely aimed at curbing the re-sale of used games, thereby (in their eyes) generating more off-the-shelf sales. In fact, do game stores even buy used copies of games protected in this manner? If so, what do they do when somebody buys a copy with no activations left?
 
Sabrewulf165 said:
Because one IGN reviewer's opinion really means squat to me? Just because this guy is on Crytek's knob doesn't mean everything he said about the game is true. I'll judge for myself.

Or maybe I won't, since with Crysis I bought the game, played it through, then sold it in FS/FT. With this new DRM, that would be a highly unsavory option for any prospective buyer as I will have used up at least one of their activations.

Anyone who thinks this protection is meant to curb piracy isn't seeing the big picture. This type of protection is solely aimed at curbing the re-sale of used games, thereby (in their eyes) generating more off-the-shelf sales. In fact, do game stores even buy used copies of games protected in this manner? If so, what do they do when somebody buys a copy with no activations left?
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Didn't even think of that. Now I definitely WON'T be buying this game.
 
Those are a lot of "ifs" cannondale.

First of all, Bioshock is a different developer and publisher, whos to say the Crysis will follow their lead?
As far as I knew, EA was handling the traditional distribution of crysis, while the developers are able to handle digital forms of distribution.
What does it mean? Really nothing, but unless it's been stated in a press release, we can only assume what sort of restrictions or limitations the steam version of crysis will have.

Would I be surprised if they implemented some form of restrictions on the steam downloads for crysis? No. The seemingly drunken ramblings of Cevat Yerli have convinced me that he's probably going to do whatever it takes to make his game as "secure" as possible.

That said, I'd still rather take my chances on steam and valve, rather than getting a traditional copy through EA. I think you'll be hard pressed to find a fan of DRM, Starforce or other software of that sort around here, and I am just taking what is likely to be the easiest and surest way of getting the most for my money.
 
hmm 30 bucks for a new updated crysis, not bad. if they can improve performance by 15-20 percent while still making it look better ill be a very happy man, too bad its a short single player. far cry 2 hurry up!:)
 
Meh, I didn't even thow that this Warhead is suppose to come out this soon. I am not interested in this game anyway. Clear Sky is the way to go for me.
 
Yes go ahead to stalker, a more static and boring world you can search long for.
 
You guys know ign gave the original crysis the same score right?
 
I'm so glad we can buy from steam. Doing that is so much better than buying it and downloading it to avoid the protection. I hope that the steam version has huge sales.

It's ironic that using steam is now more reliable than having a physical copy of the game. I love how we can screw EA and still pay the devs for their work.
 
i wonder how it will run on my HD 2400. I played the original smooth as butter on a 8800gts 320 (i "rented" the card ), and I know the original runs pretty nicely on my hd2400 on low settings in 1024x768... so I wonder if warhead will allow me to slightly bump up some things...
 
Dallows said:
You guys know ign gave the original crysis the same score right?
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I liked the original Crysis. It was a respectable game which, in my experience, had little to none of the extraordinary bugginess and framerate issues that it had for others. Oh yeah, and I don't give a shit about DRMs.
 
Damn seems like they came out with this pretty quick compared how long it takes valve to come out with HL2 episodes.

Anyways I loved the original crysis so I prepurchased it on steam.
 
Obi_Kwiet said:
I'm so glad we can buy from steam. Doing that is so much better than buying it and downloading it to avoid the protection. I hope that the steam version has huge sales.

It's ironic that using steam is now more reliable than having a physical copy of the game. I love how we can screw EA and still pay the devs for their work.
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Yes a freedom from EA's terrible attempt digital distribution. Pre-ordered on Steam as well. I would actually like to EA do this for all of their titles. So far Steam is the only digital platform that does ti right and buying a physical disc is too much of a hassle.
 
Actually, hate to say it, but nobody is sure one way or another if the Steam version also has the Securom DRM install limit.

FWIW, I heard Steam's Bioshock still had it. There's another thread in the parent section where we are talking about it.
 
Dallows said:
You guys know ign gave the original crysis the same score right?
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And it still continues to be one of the best FPS's ever made, irrespective of how many people thought they could just set everything on High/Very High and get 60 FPS.
 
Hamidxa said:
And it still continues to be one of the best FPS's ever made, irrespective of how many people thought they could just set everything on High/Very High and get 60 FPS.
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Playing through Crysis a second time I can see what a great game it is. There are different ways to accomplish missions and hence replay value is excellent. I'm still stunned by the attention to detail. I came across a school of angel fish, didn't see that first time around
 
Why does this thread degenerate in a discussion about DRM? It really takes out the fun in reading this topic.


That aside, I'm happy to see several positive reviews and that Warhead can run a lot better than the original. I think I'll be getting the game when it's out.
 
ynnek888 said:
Anndd, the hot topic of the week: What form of DRM has EA put on Crysis Warhead? Is there an install limit on this one too?
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yea you can only install it 3 times while the "other" FREE version doesnt have DRM,no dvd patch and can instal it as many times as you want.

And they wonder why people get the "OTHER" version instead.
 
Only 5 hours of SP game play according to the reviewer. :p Combined with the fact that I hated the alien battles, I think I'll skip this one until the bargain bin.
 
wfalcon said:
Only 5 hours of SP game play according to the reviewer. :p Combined with the fact that I hated the alien battles, I think I'll skip this one until the bargain bin.
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the multi player seems pretty interesting even though thats not really my thing.
 
Not getting this due to DRM, enjoyed the first game and would love to give the Crytek team my money, but will never spend money on a game with DRM like that, I learnt my lesson with Bioshock.
 
Hamidxa said:
And it still continues to be one of the best FPS's ever made, irrespective of how many people thought they could just set everything on High/Very High and get 60 FPS.
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It means that nothing has seemingly changed. It the game was supposedly improved and problems fixed then it should warrant a higher score. Giving it the same score basically says "we didn't really see any difference."

imo.
 
I'll pass. I bought a digital copy of crysis through the EA store and I really disliked the game. The visuals were great, but the game was meh for many reasons. Cryteks lack of support for the original game really pissed me off so I will be staying away from this one.
 
Dallows said:
It means that nothing has seemingly changed. It the game was supposedly improved and problems fixed then it should warrant a higher score. Giving it the same score basically says "we didn't really see any difference."

imo.
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Or how about you read the damn review instead of just looking at a number?
 
Dallows said:
It means that nothing has seemingly changed. It the game was supposedly improved and problems fixed then it should warrant a higher score. Giving it the same score basically says "we didn't really see any difference."

imo.
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This is why you have to read reviews instead of looking at the silly scores. There's really no objective scale by which a game is pegged to a score.
 
I read the review. It doesn't highlight anything new and exciting. And here's a note:

"It's important to note that the overall rating is not an average of the five individual categories. We believe that no game will ever fit into a simplistic numeric formula. Many titles are more than a sum of their parts, so the overall score is left to the judgment of the reviewer. This gives you a better sense of the reviewer's overall experience with the game rather than forcing our editors to use an average to determine the final rating for games of multiple types."

That's from the info on ign's numbering system. Basically Warhead gives the same experience as the first. Which for many, including myself, wasn't anything special.
 
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