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BioShock Infinite

dj_2004 said:
From what I've played (two hours worth), the graphics are mediocre. Perhaps I'm spoiled by Crysis 3 and modded Skyrim, but I notice so many areas where there are horrible meshes, cubemaps, and textures, among other things.
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Well it's only Unreal Engine 3. The graphic fidelity plays second fiddle to their awesome artistic design.

Texture resolution isn't everything.
 
dj_2004 said:
From what I've played (two hours worth), the graphics are mediocre. Perhaps I'm spoiled by Crysis 3 and modded Skyrim, but I notice so many areas where there are horrible meshes, cubemaps, and textures, among other things.
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I could tell it had mediocre graphics just based on the character models. I still have not played the game, but watched a lot of footage. The art direction does cover it up well.

I'm annoyed that i ever read that thread in the news section here about how they changed the design of your lady companion. Would have been more fun to hang out with a fine piece of ace, instead of this little girl. I'd expect this out of the Japanese... but not this Levine fellow lol. Maybe i just don't have a lolita complex. :confused:
 
Élizabeth have more of a Disney design than anime, the whole game has a Disney animation fell to it.

chockomonkey said:
I could tell it had mediocre graphics just based on the character models. I still have not played the game, but watched a lot of footage. The art direction does cover it up well.

I'm annoyed that i ever read that thread in the news section here about how they changed the design of your lady companion. Would have been more fun to hang out with a fine piece of ace, instead of this little girl. I'd expect this out of the Japanese... but not this Levine fellow lol. Maybe i just don't have a lolita complex. :confused:
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chockomonkey said:
I could tell it had mediocre graphics just based on the character models. I still have not played the game, but watched a lot of footage. The art direction does cover it up well.

I'm annoyed that i ever read that thread in the news section here about how they changed the design of your lady companion. Would have been more fun to hang out with a fine piece of ace, instead of this little girl. I'd expect this out of the Japanese... but not this Levine fellow lol. Maybe i just don't have a lolita complex. :confused:
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I don't know the graphics seem intentional to me. adds a bit to the Old-timey feel.

Also just a note I rolled a die and I'm playing on "Hard" and it feels just about right. Like I'm struggling but its not a cake walk. I definitely would not try it on medium. You might as well skip the FPS aspect all together if you play it on medium.

Also good god parents out there, please don't play this with your kid. It is gory as fuck. I was even a little grossed out in the first 5 minutes and I sport Evildead tattoos.

Ryoohki360 said:
Élizabeth have more of a Disney design than anime, the whole game has a Disney animation fell to it.
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Agreed reeks of Mary Poppins asthetic.
 
piscian18 said:
I can see why people wouldn't want to advertise their affiliation. It's much easier to be openly Left where people at worst make well intention-ed mistakes and occasionally philander. To each is own though I'm glad you can still enjoy the game despite it's message. For what it's I stand corrected Ken Levine: BioShock Infinite Is Not About The Tea Party I suppose.
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I didn't say people don't want to advertise their affiliation because they would feel embarrassed, I said it's because they don't want to be demonized by people who don't know them. It's akin to nobody wanting to be lumped in with a group because of their skin color, occupation, culture, religion, etc. What many people don't like to admit is that stereotyping and bigotry, like racism, goes both ways.

Unfortunately, it's easier to be openly Left because popular culture says that being Left is good and being Right is bad. Many movies, TV shows, and now games vilify anything that could be conservative in nature, because it's popular to do so.

There's no reason to complain about a story like B3's when it's an example of run-away cultism, as cultism happens no matter whether the underlying ideology be Judeo-Christian, Islamic, Atheism, Nationalism, Globalism, Environmentalism, etc. We're all susceptible to the herd-mentality, the trick is to not allow yourself to be locked into the pasture.
 
piscian18 said:
I don't know the graphics seem intentional to me. adds a bit to the Old-timey feel.

Also just a note I rolled a die and I'm playing on "Hard" and it feels just about right. Like I'm struggling but its not a cake walk. I definitely would not try it on medium. You might as well skip the FPS aspect all together if you play it on medium.

Also good god parents out there, please don't play this with your kid. It is gory as fuck. I was even a little grossed out in the first 5 minutes and I sport Evildead tattoos.



Agreed reeks of Mary Poppins asthetic.
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i only got to play like an hour or 2 but i did feel like hard was HARD. i am gonna keep going but the whole dying thing is kind of a pain in the ass, you lose money.
 
dj_2004 said:
From what I've played (two hours worth), the graphics are mediocre. Perhaps I'm spoiled by Crysis 3 and modded Skyrim, but I notice so many areas where there are horrible meshes, cubemaps, and textures, among other things.
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Yeah, I saw that immediately from the gameplay videos and reviews. Seems like tessellation really could have helped out a lot, as well as just generally higher-quality textures in places. Still, the art style does cover it up fairly well it seems.
 
mavrocket said:
I didn't say people don't want to advertise their affiliation because they would feel embarrassed, I said it's because they don't want to be demonized by people who don't know them. It's akin to nobody wanting to be lumped in with a group because of their skin color, occupation, culture, religion, etc. What many people don't like to admit is that stereotyping and bigotry, like racism, goes both ways.

Unfortunately, it's easier to be openly Left because popular culture says that being Left is good and being Right is bad. Many movies, TV shows, and now games vilify anything that could be conservative in nature, because it's popular to do so.

There's no reason to complain about a story like B3's when it's an example of run-away cultism, as cultism happens no matter whether the underlying ideology be Judeo-Christian, Islamic, Atheism, Nationalism, Globalism, Environmentalism, etc. We're all susceptible to the herd-mentality, the trick is to not allow yourself to be locked into the pasture.
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I would disagree that the Left isn't Demonized or comically caricatured it's just easier to shrug it off. I support equality and Occupy movement therefore I'm a dirty disgusting hippy with no job and I run around throwing paint on people who where nice clothes. I'm Tea Party conservative it means I hate gays, minorities, immigrants, I'm obsessed guns and jesus and I'm just plain ignorant and greedy.

Neither of these things are true of everyone in these groups, but the stigma of being Left is just easier to deal with these days.

dremic said:
i only got to play like an hour or 2 but i did feel like hard was HARD. i am gonna keep going but the whole dying thing is kind of a pain in the ass, you lose money.
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Hard in a way that felt challenging to me. Like "aww fuck I actually gotta try."
 
dremic said:
i only got to play like an hour or 2 but i did feel like hard was HARD. i am gonna keep going but the whole dying thing is kind of a pain in the ass, you lose money.
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How is the aliasing? I noticed during videos that there are a lot of jagged edges and that around the face there seems to be little to no texture and looks very flat. The art direction makes the scope look huge but whenever I go down to the details it just falls flat on its face in terms of fidelity.
 
chockomonkey said:
I could tell it had mediocre graphics just based on the character models. I still have not played the game, but watched a lot of footage. The art direction does cover it up well.

I'm annoyed that i ever read that thread in the news section here about how they changed the design of your lady companion. Would have been more fun to hang out with a fine piece of ace, instead of this little girl. I'd expect this out of the Japanese... but not this Levine fellow lol. Maybe i just don't have a lolita complex. :confused:
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Lol "this levine fellow". He's remarkable, really, and the addition of a girl and not a MILF or some bull-shit was a nice choice, IMO.
 
Ryoohki360 said:
Élizabeth have more of a Disney design than anime, the whole game has a Disney animation fell to it.
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It's definitely Disney-esque. I was just saying that the Japanese have a thing for little girls... and apparently they had this chick designed as more of a woman, but then changed it to a younger girl because they didn't want to have a grown attractive female acting childish.

dremic said:
i only got to play like an hour or 2 but i did feel like hard was HARD. i am gonna keep going but the whole dying thing is kind of a pain in the ass, you lose money.
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What's the point of death if nothing is on the line? =P

That's how hard works. You start out struggling, then you get better at the game and kick some ass!
 
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chockomonkey said:
It's definitely Disney-esque. I was just saying that the Japanese have a thing for little girls... and apparently they had this chick designed as more of a woman, but then changed it to a younger girl because they didn't want to have a grown attractive female acting childish.
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:eek: Oh my.
 
chockomonkey said:
It's definitely Disney-esque. I was just saying that the Japanese have a thing for little girls... and apparently they had this chick designed as more of a woman, but then changed it to a younger girl because they didn't want to have a grown attractive female acting childish.
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You realize this makes absolutely no sense, right
 
Play on ultra if you have a decent rig. My 2500K and 7950 handle it just fine. I see an average around 90 fps so far. The graphics as far as textures are not bf3 by any means but it has a wonderful design. Think retro disney + attitude.
 
I thought the whole idea was that she acted "childish" because she had been locked up in her room most of her life, not because she was a Disney princess. I don't honestly care too much, but I like the earlier Elizabeth better.
 
LeninGHOLA said:
I thought the whole idea was that she acted "childish" because she had been locked up in her room most of her life, not because she was a Disney princess. I don't honestly care too much, but I like the earlier Elizabeth better.
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This is all i was trying to say lol

I don't really care either, but it is just something that i would have rather not known. That PC crap always bugs me. I'm sad to hear that Levine bent his knee to it.
 
I'm playing in 1999 mode. Is there a limit to Vigor upgrades? I don't know if I should take what I found or skip it lol
 
dj_2004 said:
From what I've played (two hours worth), the graphics are mediocre. Perhaps I'm spoiled by Crysis 3 and modded Skyrim, but I notice so many areas where there are horrible meshes, cubemaps, and textures, among other things.
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You can get Skyrim to look better than bioshock with mods? My mods made it look better... but not that good..
 
piscian18 said:
Also good god parents out there, please don't play this with your kid. It is gory as fuck. I was even a little grossed out in the first 5 minutes and I sport Evildead tattoos.
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lol, what? You sport evildead tats and got grossed out over the first 5min?
 
chockomonkey said:
It's definitely Disney-esque. I was just saying that the Japanese have a thing for little girls... and apparently they had this chick designed as more of a woman, but then changed it to a younger girl because they didn't want to have a grown attractive female acting childish.



What's the point of death if nothing is on the line? =P

That's how hard works. You start out struggling, then you get better at the game and kick some ass!
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i hate dying ;(


///AMG said:
How is the aliasing? I noticed during videos that there are a lot of jagged edges and that around the face there seems to be little to no texture and looks very flat. The art direction makes the scope look huge but whenever I go down to the details it just falls flat on its face in terms of fidelity.
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theres only one setting, on or off. off was horrendous even at 1440p it was ugly and i felt it had a big impact on image quality. with it on though everything seems very smooth, at 1080p though could be a different story.. depending on the monitor size.
 
spaceman said:
Play on ultra if you have a decent rig. My 2500K and 7950 handle it just fine. I see an average around 90 fps so far. The graphics as far as textures are not bf3 by any means but it has a wonderful design. Think retro disney + attitude.
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There are parts with shadows at ultra on my 7970 @ 1050 that slowdown badly. They are sparse but enough to make me set them to very high.

Ultra with shadows at very high seem nice and smooth.
 
was reformatting my hard drive yesterday so cannot start until tonight...can't wait

how are the DX11 graphics with everything maxed out?
 
MavericK96 said:
Skyrim with the vanilla HD texture pack looks better.
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I wouldn't say better, considering BI's implementation of DX11 depth of field and ambient occlusion are much better than Skyrim and most titles even.
 
big_aug said:
I'm playing in 1999 mode. Is there a limit to Vigor upgrades? I don't know if I should take what I found or skip it lol
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what's vigor? details stat!

GOD'SlittleSERVANT said:
You can get Skyrim to look better than bioshock with mods? My mods made it look better... but not that good..
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If you haven't, check out the Skyrim screenshot thread here... it's really quite amazing what some people have been able to do with good textures + enb.

I know what you mean though, i've tried... mine never looked that good :(
 
next-Jin said:
There are parts with shadows at ultra on my 7970 @ 1050 that slowdown badly. They are sparse but enough to make me set them to very high.

Ultra with shadows at very high seem nice and smooth.
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My sli gtx 670 with a very good overclock slows down when i first enter these parts with shadow at ultra too. its perfectly smooth with shadows at very high yet i dont see a difference.
 
chockomonkey said:
what's vigor? details stat!



If you haven't, check out the Skyrim screenshot thread here... it's really quite amazing what some people have been able to do with good textures + enb.

I know what you mean though, i've tried... mine never looked that good :(
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Yeah, I even done research on it and I still can't get mine to look "awesome".
 
Ugh, the backtracking necessary for unlocking the first chest was sort of annoying.
 
MavericK96 said:
Skyrim with the vanilla HD texture pack looks better.
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To each their own, imo Bioshock's art style, lighting, etc make it look far more appealing then Skyrim with it's robotic npc's and rough graphical quality (vanilla).

Lydia for example looks far less appealing then say Elizabeth in terms of her graphical model.
 
Stiler said:
To each their own, imo Bioshock's art style, lighting, etc make it look far more appealing then Skyrim with it's robotic npc's and rough graphical quality (vanilla).

Lydia for example looks far less appealing then say Elizabeth in terms of her graphical model.
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True, I was speaking more in terms of texture fidelity I guess.
 
Stiler said:
Lydia for example looks far less appealing then say Elizabeth in terms of her graphical model.
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You can make the characters in skyrim look quite nice...

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and it has the bonus of not looking like a Disney-drawn 14-year-old.
 
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