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I don´t speak for everyone, but reading is fundamental. People in this thread have already stated their reasons. All you need to do, is to read them again without thinking that their statements are not based upon not knowing how to overclock, but no longer see the benefits doing it as they used to.
Keep in mind that the importance of overclocking the CPU is less today then it was only a couple of years ago. Here is a few examples:
* Games and software are more mulithreaded now.
* Modern CPUs and motherboards have a pretty decent boost algorithm, giving you a high clock on demand.
* Higher resolution monitors are cheaper these days, so more people game at higher resolutions, putting more load on GPU and therefore free up some CPU clocks. Bottleneck is shifting to GPU.
* You are more likely to be GPU limited then CPU limited in modern games.
* Power, heat and noise is more a factor now then what it used to be.
That was more in general. Now, if you want to discuss my system and try to give me a reason to overclock, then please go ahead:
Its an i7-8700K on an Asus Prime z370-A motherboard. GPU is a MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (I am waiting for the right GPU to upgrade to).My system is build to be quiet, so that goes for all fan configurations. CPU cooler is a Noctua NH-U14S, single fan, not dual (I have extra fans to use if I would bother).
https://hardforum.com/threads/noctua-nh-u14s-good-enough-for-ocd-8700k.1952005/#post-1043418448
My work on this computer is mostly done through VPN. I game on 1440P and in some demanding titles on 1080P. In addition I also use it for VR (HTC Vive PRO).
The only "overclock" I have done, is to enable the machine to do its boost automatically. I have enabled MCE, XMP and best case profile in bios. All cores boost to 4.4GHz under Prime95, with a vcore @ 1.088V (automatically set by the motherboard).
So, try to give me any real world reason beyond academic numbers why I should bother overclocking (increasing power usage, heat, fan speed/noise or system stability (if I need to push the CPU to its limits to gain something/anything worthwhile)?
As you when you READ the [H] reviews, its not some numbers produced by a benchmark Queen that matters, but gameplay. The real world benefits, thats the [H] way.
That's great but you don't have to mock his opinion and perspective.
Sorry, but I've gotta chime in again and say, given how easy mobo makers have made overclocking these days, it's simply just pure bone-idle laziness not to do it. While you're replying to this thread, you could be in your bios overclocking, exploiting the knowledge of these forums.
I mean the only 'complication' these days is installing a decent 3rd party cooler, but honestly lol, if you can't handle that, then I basically just wouldn't consider you to be a hardware enthusiast.
)I don´t speak for everyone, but reading is fundamental. People in this thread have already stated their reasons. All you need to do, is to read them again without thinking that their statements are not based upon not knowing how to overclock, but no longer see the benefits doing it as they used to.
Keep in mind that the importance of overclocking the CPU is less today then it was only a couple of years ago. Here is a few examples:
* Games and software are more mulithreaded now.
* Modern CPUs and motherboards have a pretty decent boost algorithm, giving you a high clock on demand.
* Higher resolution monitors are cheaper these days, so more people game at higher resolutions, putting more load on GPU and therefore free up some CPU clocks. Bottleneck has shiftedto the GPU.
* You are more likely to be GPU limited then CPU limited in modern games.
* Power, heat and noise is more a factor now then what it used to be.
That was more in general. Now, if you want to discuss my system and try to give me a reason to overclock, then please go ahead:
Its an i7-8700K on an Asus Prime z370-A motherboard. GPU is a MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (I am waiting for the right GPU to upgrade to).My system is build to be quiet, so that goes for all fan configurations. CPU cooler is a Noctua NH-U14S, single fan, not dual (I have extra fans to use if I would bother).
https://hardforum.com/threads/noctua-nh-u14s-good-enough-for-ocd-8700k.1952005/#post-1043418448
My work on this computer is mostly done through VPN. I game on 1440P and in some demanding titles on 1080P. In addition I also use it for VR (HTC Vive PRO).
The only "overclock" I have done, is to enable the machine to do its boost automatically. I have enabled MCE, XMP and best case profile in bios. All cores boost to 4.4GHz under Prime95, with a vcore @ 1.088V (automatically set by the motherboard).
So, try to give me any real world reason beyond academic numbers why I should bother overclocking (increasing power usage, heat, fan speed/noise or system stability (if I need to push the CPU to its limits to gain something/anything worthwhile)?
As you when you READ the [H] reviews, its not some numbers produced by a benchmark Queen that matters, but gameplay. The real world benefits, thats the [H] way.
Because if you install a good cooler, you can automatically get about 90-95% of a modern chip's potential without doing anything? I have a i7-7700K with a H150i and it pretty much sits at its all-core turbo (4.4 GHz). Keeping stock voltage, I can maybe get 4.6-4.7 Ghz. But assuming I'm willing to bump voltage to ~1.35V to go 5 Ghz, I'd have to do a TIM repaste or else temps goes ridiculously high.
It's a far cry from my last O/C chip, the i7-2600K. It's base clock was 3.4Ghz and turbo was stupider then. So setting multiplier to 4.2Ghz at stock voltage and good temps for a free 25% O/C was a no brainer.
And that's an even farther cry from my best daily driver overclock, the Pentium-M Dothan. I bought a Pentium-M 730 1.6Ghz could hit 2.4 Ghz at stock voltages with good temps. Slight voltage bump (+.1V) and it could do about 2.6 GHz with a dinky cooler, at which point my memory was holding it back. Was such a unique combo at LAN parties because they performed better than Athlon FX's in many games, much to the chagrin of those owners (and their stupidly bulky coolers
It's good but with Intel tricks (migrations) and the price bloat, that price is really insane, imho. It's almost twice the price of the 8700k in Canada. I hope lots of people pass for that reason.
well its not...
