Anyone else not give a single hoot about overclocking

I give hoots too. My 5820K doesn't really impress me @ 3.3GHz. It needs to be @4.4GHz if I wan't to play games. I've had it @4.6GHz a while but the heat is bad at that overclock and unstable.
 
Overclocking exposes the limits of components. This is most valuable for me in picking the parts for my next rig. I may no longer push everything to the extreme, but I sleep better knowing it is better than stock and still has room to run.

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Ok, so I'm an overclocker, maybe I shouldn't be in here, but I guess the only thing I can add is to say, "That's cool". :cool:

I don't consider this forum to be an elitist club exclusive to just 'hardcore' enthusiasts.

That said, if you aint overclocking, you aint [H]ard. :pompous:
 
Ban the OP.

I was OCing P3s with peltiors and home made big water, haven’t stopped since.

Yes, there is absolutely tangible performance to be gained. Just run OCd for a few days/weeks and then return it all to stock. You will definitely notice it.
If you’re doing any sort of encoding or rendering, OCing is almost a requirement.
 
I care a lot about NOT overclocking. Too much trouble. Too much risk. Too much distraction. Not enough benefit.

The performance of today's overclocked, overpriced hot box will be available in a stock, standard-clocked box about six months from now.
Why pay more now for a small performance bump? Just wait a short while and get more performance for less money!
 
margrave said:
Too much trouble.
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Yes, two or three mouse clicks or three settings in the UEFI are very difficult to adjust. :rolleyes:

margrave said:
Too much risk.
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In two decades of overclocking and working on computers of every class and type, I have seen less than a dozen CPUs fail. I can count the ones that failed from overclocking on one hand with fingers left over. I've built, serviced and worked on thousands of computers at this point and that's not remotely exaggerated. Intel even sells overclocking warranties if you are that concerned. I believe websites that sell pre-tested overclocked CPUs offer warranties as well. It does cost a little bit extra but it certainly mitigates the "risk." What little there is.

margrave said:
Too much distraction.
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Yes, its super distracting to have extra performance that takes only a few minutes to acquire and a few hours to test.

margrave said:
Not enough benefit.
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While the benefits are certainly situational, the downsides are few and far between. This isn't the old days where your overclocked CPU will pull its max TDP or close to it all the time. While we are primarily GPU bound, there are still situations where additional CPU performance helps. A lot of people are still running sub-4K resolutions in which case your less GPU limited and more CPU limited as those aren't high resolutions anymore. At ultra high resolutions, we've sometimes seen faster CPU's pull ahead slightly in some games and in some circumstances.

margrave said:
The performance of today's overclocked, overpriced hot box will be available in a stock, standard-clocked box about six months from now.
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This statement is false. It's more than false, it's horse shit. Intel still doesn't offer a stock clocked CPU that matches the overclocked frequency on my three year old CPU. My 5960X is running at 4.5GHz and has for years. Of course turbo frequencies are finally getting up there, but that's for a single core only. AMD's turbo frequencies went up slightly, but the CPU frequencies of a Ryzen 2700X isn't much different than a Ryzen 1800X. Furthermore, the overclocking potential of these chips is only 100-200MHz more, but that wouldn't effect you anyway.

Also for reference, Broadwell-E's 10-core cost the same $1,000 my 5960X cost and it overclocked worse making the IPC improvement moot. Today, an eight core Intel CPU that clocks about the same costs just as much as my CPU did three years ago. Tell me again how a standard clocked box will match the frequencies of today's overclocked boxes six months from now? That type of CPU progress hasn't been seen in more than a decade.

margrave said:
Why pay more now for a small performance bump? Just wait a short while and get more performance for less money!
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This thinking leads to a circular problem. If you are always waiting to buy something better, you will never buy anything because something better is always coming down the pipe. Secondly, CPU pricing hasn't really changed that much over the last several years. Intel's top mainstream CPU's have remained around the same price for about half a decade or more. Today's 8500K isn't faster than the previous 7700K in many cases. The only reason you could even have that one example is because of the transition from 4 cores to 6 in the mainstream space. Outside of that one case, (which is arguable, and situational) your basically wrong.
 
Holy cow. People act like gaining another 15-20% rock-solid, resilient, reliable performance is difficult. It's the snowflake generation of computing, lol.

All the work has been done for you. Good grief.
 
Brahmzy said:
Holy cow. People act like gaining another 15-20% rock-solid, resilient, reliable performance is difficult. It's the snowflake generation of computing, lol.

All the work has been done for you. Good grief.
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At one time overclocking was difficult. Now all you have to do is Google the basic voltage range for vCore and do one or two other things and your all set. With some setups you can have an application figure this all out for you. Albeit, the applications are more conservative than I'd like but I understand the reasons behind it.
 
It's not like Intel made it easier on the enthusiast to buy cheap components and overclock them. Now you have to buy a more expensive CPU and chipset.
 
kirbyrj said:
It's not like Intel made it easier on the enthusiast to buy cheap components and overclock them. Now you have to buy a more expensive CPU and chipset.
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I was super pissed that Intel forced HEDT buyers to go to a $1,000 CPU just to access the full capabilities of the X299 motherboards.
 
jmilcher said:
Back when I could get a 50% or more overclock, I did it.

Now I'd spend a week fiddling, stressing my 2700x out for what, 200 MHz? Just isn't worth it anymore.
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The 2700 needs it, it's 3.35ish all core speeds are well below the 4.1-4.2 one can acheive with overclocking.

And that's what overclocking has always been about. Buy the cheaper chip and get the pricier speeds out of it.
 
Does OP go to Mercedes forum and ask if anyone gives a hoot about Merc's?

It is in the title. OCP. Over Clocking People.

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Probably already covered, but I only do it for hobby and to satisfy my desire to tweak things. I fully understand it provides me 0 value. Like I OC’d the 2500k in my hypc. Do I need it? No. Was it more fun to me to see how far I could push it than any video game I own? Yes it was.
 
I used to be all about benchmarking and getting the best scores out of the meager hardware I had. Now I just want to build a PC turn it on and not mess with fine tuning any more. I dont think anything will ever match the sense of awe I felt in overclocking my Athalon XP 1700 JIUHB
 
I do not give a hoot about overclocking for about 4 hours, this is the time spent getting the system updated and make sure it runs stable. Then I push it and back down to a good speed but still overclock.
 
pendragon1 said:
TLDR thread. this guy turn in his [H] card yet?
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Hah.

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I've always OCd my cpus since I really got into the enthusiast crowd. I enjoy getting a little extra out of the product than the average user would. That said, I've gone over to the AMD side of things this time, and there really isn't much point in OCing my 2700X. Even Kyle came to that conclusion in his review. I have to imagine that Intel will likely come up with something to match what AMD is doing with PB2. Once that happens, the days of OCing will likely be gone outside of extremely niche situations.
 
johnnysd said:
My i5-8400 idles at 23, has NEVER gone above 45C at any point in normal use, and is completely silent from 3 feet. I couldnt't be happier.

Any else in this small minority?
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How come does your cpu idles at 23? My i3-8100 idles at 35-40C. And this is with the aftermarket cooler.
 
OP I overclock everything. CPU. GPU. RAM. I'm kind of OCD about it and I don't stop until I have extracted every last drop of performance possible from my system. But it takes a lot of time and sometimes frustration when it doesn't work out as planned.

That being said, overclocking is dying and I expect in the near future it will be largely eliminated, sadly. I think I became such a big overclocker because I grew up in an era when you could buy a super low end CPU and then overclock it to be faster than anything else available on the market, sometimes for some time in the future. With my Abit BP6 motherboard I actually had two Celeron CPUs running far beyond their specification. The system was insanely powerful for a very long time.
 
Nah, I'll run it at stock speeds for the CPU part. I do bump the memory to XMP though which affects the processor. Heck I'm running my 8700K at 8400 speeds to reduce TDP.

The crazy thing is that you have to work to run Intel stock speeds with the K processors, at least with some motherboards.
 
Hell even my monitors are overclocked.... I overclock my refrigerator as well.

My Diesel Truck is overclocked with a bunch of mods, even my car has a bigger turbo making it overclocked.

I overclock my Galaxy phone as well as my damn smart watch.

I overclock my wall clocks for crying out loud. My 4 year old child is overclocked.

I am the epitome of [H].


However, and realistically I am not opposed to being a little more green, although I OC the shit out of my system, I do so with speedstep and C states enabled, I also use adaptive voltage as well, thus my system spends most of it's time hovering at a very low frequency, even my GPUs are set to idle at a low power state (in as much as I can control them).

I do also run an older Sandy Bridge E5 Xeon in my NAS that is about 6 years old or more now which I desperately want to update to a U series or high core Atom soon. I just can't spend the cash on it right now since my home needs a lot of work that is far more important.
 
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I OC my radeon 480 by increasing the power limit and voltage because the POS will underclock itself otherwise. I get 60fps on my 1080p monitor on every game I play at max settings. My highly 130+ mods skyrim with enb puts the most pressure on the card sometimes dipping down to 40fps. I don't bother overclocking my 8600k because I have no need to do so.

I did have $1000 at the beginning if the year to spend on a new monitor and video card but I spent it on a guns instead. Since video card prices were utterly insane. I got my 480 for $180 when it was first released and then when I went to upgrade that same card was selling for $350+. Insane.

Now that I've waited this long I figure I might as well wait until nvidias next gen of cards is released. I'm worried that with no competition from amd though they'll just leave the 10 series right where it is and add the 11 series above it as an incredibly over priced card. In which case I'll just enjoy my other hobbies more. My kids mostly play old super Nintendo Roms on an old computer anyway.
 
Although I was ready to delid my new i9-7940X from day one I refrained from doing so and tested what it can do without deliding and warranty loss.

I invested in a big bad custom watercooling loop (my PC is dead silent) and have it set at 4 Cores turbo 4.7GHz, 4 cores 4.4Ghz and all other cores at 4.2GHz.

90% of the time it uses 0.8-0.9 Volts and most cores hover at 1.2Ghz. It is amazing how much power management has evolved and I was awed after moving from a really old Q9550 system to this.

The only other tweak was some minor manual voltage adjustments so that my 64GB RAM gets detected properly during boot at its rated 3600Mhz - no overclock here, can't be bothered.

I use Adobe Creative cloud applications along with office and right now I don't need any more performance since my PC is not slowing me down in any case.

After 2-3 years I might push the CPU further but right now I am 100% satisfied.


My 1080Ti (Asus Strix OC) is watercooled and boosts @ 1999Mhz on its own never exceeding 38C and staying there. It can do 2065Mhz core & 12100Mhz memory but I just left it as it is since the difference is minor.


So in short I do care for free extra performance but never at the expense of stability or warranty loss. I set everything at less than the maximum it can do for better stability, less heat and more
durability.
 
Dan_D said:
At one time overclocking was difficult.
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I must have sleeped trough that era, when was that?
There was two sets of jumpers one for clock and one for fsb and that was that. Or two options in the softmenu, vcore and fsb, end of story.
If anything overclocking is harder now (or at least more confusing) because there are dozens of options related to overlclocking in bioses. With various voltages that can be adjusted individually, where you got no clue how will it affect OC-ing if at all. And the "automated" overvolting provided by MBs just adds to the confusion big time. If I set some voltage to auto it no longer means cpu default, it means something something the MB manufacturer thought would be good for that overclock. Which most of the time is outrageously high.
 
M76 said:
I must have sleeped trough that era, when was that?
There was two sets of jumpers one for clock and one for fsb and that was that. Or two options in the softmenu, vcore and fsb, end of story.
If anything overclocking is harder now (or at least more confusing) because there are dozens of options related to overlclocking in bioses. With various voltages that can be adjusted individually, where you got no clue how will it affect OC-ing if at all. And the "automated" overvolting provided by MBs just adds to the confusion big time. If I set some voltage to auto it no longer means cpu default, it means something something the MB manufacturer thought would be good for that overclock. Which most of the time is outrageously high.
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Well back when you had to freeze and crack your duron and then put a line of graphite down to OC it was a bit harder. But I agree with your sentiment.
 
Snowdensjacket said:
Well back when you had to freeze and crack your duron and then put a line of graphite down to OC it was a bit harder. But I agree with your sentiment.
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wtf is this freeze and crack you talk about? my duron 600 was doing 1100 with just the pencil trick.
 
Snowdensjacket said:
Well back when you had to freeze and crack your duron and then put a line of graphite down to OC it was a bit harder. But I agree with your sentiment.
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I still prefer shorting legs on my coppermine over two dozen individual settings to troubleshoot in the bios.
 
I like getting the most of my hardware for little additional cost. I run an easy 5.15GHz OC on all six cores of my 8700k. VR demands high frame rate with no interruption. And when your target frame rate is 165hz, (I overclock my monitor, too.) , that extra power rarely goes to waste.
 
Certain hardware responds really well to OC, and you can get performance that might be needed for less money. However, modern hardware is already binned and clocked according to quality, and not much is to be gained anymore with only a few exceptions. How OC became so popular, were they days when you could get a CPU/GPU that was a high end part, limited at the factory to get a portion of the lower market teirs. Thus simply using a motherboars or BIOS modification to achieve sometimes double the performance at half the cost, sometimes even better. Once OC became mainstream, manufactureres caught on, and began marketing factory OC. Now if a part can OC, it gets binned and marketed as such, and you pay for a factory "OC". There are a few exceptions today, but they mostly get you into mid range perfromance from a low/mid range part. On the Intel side especially, since you can no longer OC the "bus", you are stuck trying to squeeze perfromance from the base clocks of your CPU and RAM. On the GPU side, there are more significant gains to be had, but unless you get latest production of older achitecture, they will have already been binned. The differences are there, sometimes application specific, but for the most part minimal gains compared to the glory days.

I'll never forget the old ATi days, flashing a $200 card to a $400 card.
 
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