Teenyman45
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Now watch AMD finally come out with a part almost as good as Intel's but completely screw up pricing it like they did with the Fury and 7900 series gpus.
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AMD doesn't have to outright beat Intel in performance to start winning again (would be a plus but very unlikely), it is more important for them improve their margins again and get back into the black to fund future R&D.
wow went quiet in here all of a sudden! whered all the tin-foil hats go? still think amd was lying and giving out false info, faking tests and hiding altered settings? geez....
wow went quiet in here all of a sudden! whered all the tin-foil hats go? still think amd was lying and giving out false info, faking tests and hiding altered settings? geez....
wow went quiet in here all of a sudden! whered all the tin-foil hats go? still think amd was lying and giving out false info, faking tests and hiding altered settings? geez....
Because the last time Core 2 was destroying A64 in everything Intel was sending pre-release samples to everybody to test, instead of just leaking numbers for just one specific app?
Can you link us to the last time this wasnt an issue?wow went quiet in here all of a sudden! whered all the tin-foil hats go? still think amd was lying and giving out false info, faking tests and hiding altered settings? geez....
Can you link us to the last time this wasnt an issue?
id have to check their join dates...Can you link us to the last time this wasnt an issue?
If zen was destroying intel, I'm sure they send out samples to everyone too. What we're looking at is a part that is on par with current intel offerings.
Damn, guess I did not save after I fixed that.
Kyle didn't you mention AMD should spell check their slides?
If zen was destroying intel, I'm sure they send out samples to everyone too. What we're looking at is a part that is on par with current intel offerings.
Hmm, I did fix that. It is pulling from a cached version. Lots of security changes lately and this has to do with those. Thanks for pointing this out.
Kyle didn't you mention AMD should spell check their slides?
Now watch AMD finally come out with a part almost as good as Intel's but completely screw up pricing it like they did with the Fury and 7900 series gpus.
Well, what all new tech are these new motherboards going to support and how well are those going to work. Big part of the picture....I'm all for hopping back over to AMD CPUs if the performance is there. Intel's latest offerings don't really seem to be much progress over previous generations. Hell, you can still get by with a 1st or 2nd gen i7 for a lot of uses.
I also find it weird that my current processor (4790K) is still essentially the same price as a 6700K.
You really can't complain about Fiji prices either. It is not like AMD was acting greedy. It was a test run for HBM more than anything and implementing HBM was not cheap. I would be surprised if they made any money on it. They probably lost money, considering how Fury series barely even registers on Steam hardware survey.Fury X and Fury Nano, yes. The 7970 and the 7950 were priced just as they should have been though. I have a feeling their prices will be exactly were we are willing to pay but, we will see.
It just seems as though Intel is starting to stagnate a bit
Thank you Kyle, for confirming this. Stupid on AMD, but this should clear up anyone saying this will never match and amd is straight out lying. Like you said they should have paid more attention to the file, lol. WTF amd is as true as it gets.
Much agree, great having options without having to update the whole system, OS etc. Now I wonder if the dual channel DDR 4 will ever really become a limitation for the Platform over time and what advantage does Intel quad channel memory has if any.One reason I'm considering Zen vs Skylake-E, is ability to upgrade the CPU across generations, without buying an entire new motherboard. I'd be happy with Broadwell-E levels of performance.
Much agree, great having options without having to update the whole system, OS etc. Now I wonder if the dual channel DDR 4 will ever really become a limitation for the Platform over time and what advantage does Intel quad channel memory has if any.
I wonder if the X370 motherboards will be able to support a type of Interposer for the CPU and HBM memory if that ever becomes available. APU's in particular with the platform.There are probably some really obscure edge cases where the quad channel memory controller makes a tangible difference, although DDR 4 will continue to get faster for awhile. That said, and I'm by no means predicting AMD will do this, but they could always put a stack of HBM on the package as a last level cache if they wanted to maintain platform capability without increasing the number of memory channels in the event they became limited by memory bandwidth in the future.
@Kyle :
I'm just wondering if the 25MB of L3 Cache of the 6950X is causing any discrepancies.
The 6900K only has 20MB of L3 cache.
Disabling two cores is fun, but you can't disable the extra 5MB of L3 cache ?
Yup, there's nothing better than a real comparison.You can't but I'm guessing it's probably not gonna make a huge difference since this is not a memory intensive benchmark. Usually rendering tasks do perform better with more cache however, so it would still be helpful if someone with a real i7-6900k could reproduce this result, if only to convince the last remaining skeptics around.
My good sir, you deserve an award for that. Laughed my rear-end off.wow went quiet in here all of a sudden! whered all the tin-foil hats go? still think amd was lying and giving out false info, faking tests and hiding altered settings? geez....
My good sir, you deserve an award for that. Laughed my rear-end off.
Not to surprised about any of it really
Ryzen rig would only dip into the 57fps range every now and then for just a moment and jump back up to the mid-high 60's sometimes 70's. The Intel rig dipped into the low 60's only & hit 70fps+ and seemed to stay at higher fps more consistently.
Until more information is released/independent reviews there isn't much more to talk about
We know Zen was doing quite differently in BF1 from the person there. Seems 6900K in BF1 was up to actually hitting the GPU limit unlike Zen.