Pretty doubtful in every 3D accelerated game out today.Scotch77 said:No just about any game out today.
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Pretty doubtful in every 3D accelerated game out today.Scotch77 said:No just about any game out today.
CEpeep said:"Who's AGP? AGP's dead, baby. AGP's dead..."
Yashu said:there are no technical reasons for not seeing a 7900GTX agp.
Atticus_gamer said:How can you say that the performance is soo much higher? We still havnt even pushed the 8x agp to its max...the bus isnt even breaking a sweat. so really cant say that pci-x is so much faster since we havnt even pushed it to its limits. Im just putting my 2 cents in so say what you want..
texuspete00 said:Not so fast, pci-e delivers 75 watts to the card. AGP might be like 25? Sure, go over the connector, another 50 watts... an x1900XT would def be rough, everything all through the connector. We already have issues with this rail mumbo jumbo. AGP was not meant to deal with 7900GTX's.
On other notes, AGP being dead isn't to diss on current rigs. Some people protesting have say a socket A and a 6800. Ok, your rig is alright. You're not buying another video card likely though. You're holding out for a rig overhaul. Making it effectively dead market. Unless you want to continue paying a premium for less performance. Which begs the question of why not buy a new mobo. For AXP and S478 you really can't. How much premium will you through to keep it? It will only get worse. Still might be some reason to get a 7800GS out there I guess. Certainly effectively widdling you into a niche and a system overhaul. Think anything above mid range market for AGP has a foot in the grave. Rather than dissing all the AGP rigs.
I think NVidia and ATI are playing a risky game with AGP. There is a whole bunch of people that will not dump their perfectly fine rigs to get a fast video card (the pricing of video cards in general is stupid but that's another story). I considered the rip-off that the 7800 GS AGP is and decided they aren't getting my cash. Got a x1600 instead at a third of the price. I can't play games at 1900x1200 but 1280x800 works fine. Should hold me off for another couple of years...Brent_Justice said:a slow performing version of the 7800 series yes, basically it doesn't come close to performing equally with what is available at the same price point on PCIe, it is not a high-end solution by any means
DusanV said:I think NVidia and ATI are playing a risky game with AGP. There is a whole bunch of people that will not dump their perfectly fine rigs to get a fast video card (the pricing of video cards in general is stupid but that's another story). I considered the rip-off that the 7800 GS AGP is and decided they aren't getting my cash. Got a x1600 instead at a third of the price. I can't play games at 1900x1200 but 1280x800 works fine. Should hold me off for another couple of years...
Maichena said:It will never truly die. Look at PCI cards. You can still buy PCI video cards today.
stopmenow said:this is like, i have ddr 1 memory still, many people think everybody uses ddr2 now, they're wrong, amd still uses ddr1, p4 6xx still uses ddr1, even the new 975 p4 you will be able to find ddr1 mobos. it's more like, what you find for sale on the net, than what people say. people are always buying new stuff because other people have. imo.
as long as windows supports it, its okay.
try to sell a mainboard with a high end CPU and RAM built into and see where you get...perryinva said:amazing that a motherboard that has power regulators, memory slots, raid, sound, usb, 1394, etc, etc, etc is like $90 whereas a video card that just does, well, video is $300?
Maichena said:If you want to get philosophical, every piece of technology that comes out is dying the moment it is released. It's just a matter of when. Now for a more objective view.
Companies do release AGP cards because there is a demand for them. However, new cards are released in PCIe flavor first before it is released as AGP a few months later.
In my opinion, it sounds like companies are testing the market with PCIe first before deciding whether they want to release that model as an AGP.
It will never truly die. Look at PCI cards. You can still buy PCI video cards today.
So to answer the OP, no it won't die, but it will not gain any share of the graphic card market.
BrainDanceR said:Is AGP Dead?
No, not yet.
Is AGP a Dead End?
Yes.
Frank4d said:It is good to still have AGP cards available when you don't want to replace a whole PC. Last month the MX200 32MB AGP card in my daughter's PC crapped out so I replaced it with a FX5500 128MB AGP.
Conker said:I have a HIS x800pro 256mb agp overclocked that can run about anything right now out fine with the anisotropics and antialiasing. running a mobile athlonxp [email protected] with 2GB of ram. Agp isn't dead but its dieing but i would like to see some newer faster cards for it.
KompressorV12 said:give it another year and AGP will be very hard to come by, you will have to buy 3 generation old motherboards to support it unless you buy those chipset boards that support PCI-E and AGP but keep in mind that those are NOT performance boards,
Conker said:I have a HIS x800pro 256mb agp overclocked that can run about anything right now out fine with the anisotropics and antialiasing. running a mobile athlonxp [email protected] with 2GB of ram. Agp isn't dead but its dieing but i would like to see some newer faster cards for it.
You heard wrong. The x850XT PE/6800Ultra era of cards was barely saturating the AGP 4x bus, and the AGP 8x bus was never used to its full capacity.silz said:If my memory serves me right, I heard about the AGP 4x being saturated and having an extreme "bottleneck" at high res gaming making zero difference between a mid-end card and a high range card.