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Not you, the guy with a mobile newcastle. I was wondering if it was one of the early newcastles, i.e. - a c0 clawhammer with half its cache disabled.
 
just to nitpick, there's no such thing as a mobile newcastle... all clawhammers :D
and they all have 1mb of cache
 
iddqd said:
Not you, the guy with a mobile newcastle. I was wondering if it was one of the early newcastles, i.e. - a c0 clawhammer with half its cache disabled.
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No, my old CO 3000+ was a nuetered clawhammer, but the new DTR 3000+ I got is a CG core clawhammer with the full 1MB cache.

I loaded up the newest DFI NF3 250GB bios to see if that helped any....I am actually less stable at 2700mhz. Not sure if I made any settings different, but I'm looking into what I may have forgot.
 
Try one of jess1313's custom bioses, they tend to do better with mobile chips. I thought you had a NewCastle, though... 2.8GHz is pretty good for a ClawHammer.
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
just to nitpick, there's no such thing as a mobile newcastle... all clawhammers :D
and they all have 1mb of cache
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There used to be.
 
Remounted my waterblock to make sure that the contact with the core was good. Seems to have improved my overclock some. I can run prime95 at 2750mhz now @ 1.7v, but it will fail after about 10-15 minutes. Extra voltage does not do anything yet. At least 2.7ghz appears to be pretty stable now though running 300x9 with the 9/10 memory divider and 1.65v on the cpu. Only ran prime for 1 1/2 hours though.

Where can I pick up one of jess1313's custom bioses to test out?
 
iddqd said:
There used to be.
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hmm, i wasn't aware.
and i learned something. oem's seem to be selling 90nm mobiles (notes the acer ferrari)
i wonder when it'll turn up in retail channels
 
Sorry but i have a few questions and sorry in advance i am a n00b with the A64 stuff

1. are all 90nm core 3500+ Winchester
2. whats the letters or number in the chip that lets you know its a Winchester.
3. and what kind of OC could i expect with a 3500+ Winchester and a Asus A8V 1gb corsair xms 3200

thanks

~R[H]ONTOS~
 
Well , I'm pretty happy with this, it seems gaming stable right now.

A64 3000+ s939, MSI K8N Neo2 Plat, 2x 512mb corsair twinx 3200xlpro ver 1.1, PNY 6800nu, 9x250 FSB 1:1 mem @ 2.5-4-4-10 1T, this is excellent speed for this memory, so I'm very happy with this. I've found that memory voltage is critical to obtaining the max stable overclock with the TCCD modules, and that stock Vcore is the most stable, at least for me.
 
R[H]ONTOS said:
Sorry but i have a few questions and sorry in advance i am a n00b with the A64 stuff

1. are all 90nm core 3500+ Winchester
2. whats the letters or number in the chip that lets you know its a Winchester.
3. and what kind of OC could i expect with a 3500+ Winchester and a Asus A8V 1gb corsair xms 3200
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1. yes (there's also 90nm 3000/3200, not sure what you were asking exactly by how you worded it, 90nm = Winchester)

2. search for it, I'm not on my comp right now so I don't have a link to this info, it isn't hard to find though

3. Depends really. Mine topped out at 2.3GHz, it isn't the RAM and it isn't the board (since I've run both at higher FSBs with a lower proc multi and they passed Memtest86/Prime95). Could be my PSU but I doubt it, 12v line is a little low but stable and all others are stable and high. I've only tried 1.6vcore max so it's plausbiel with more it'd go higher but there's plenty of people that could do 2.4-2.5 w/o going higher, I''m not willing to go over 1.6v on air anyway and I'm happy at 2.3GHz rock-solid stable.
 
Anyone have any Sledgehammer OC results? Would be really nice to see what these cores can do.
 
looks like you have some yourself. dual opterons at 2.8ghz. quite impressive, even if it is under phase change :D
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
looks like you have some yourself. dual opterons at 2.8ghz. quite impressive, even if it is under phase change :D
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I'm trying to push them to 3 ghz, but was wondering if there's any other sledgehammer OC results around, so I could judge whether they will hit 3ghz and whether its worth the time, effort and money.
 
i think the thing that makes the difference between sledgehammer and clawhammer is the number of memory channels it has. thus the fx's are in the same class as opterons with dual channels and 1mb of cache.
clawhammer has single channel and 1mb of cache.

though i'm not 100% positive about this... just 97% ;)
 
(cf)Eclipse said:
i think the thing that makes the difference between sledgehammer and clawhammer is the number of memory channels it has. thus the fx's are in the same class as opterons with dual channels and 1mb of cache.
clawhammer has single channel and 1mb of cache.

though i'm not 100% positive about this... just 97% ;)
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Yea, the dual channel on sledgehammer really cripples the CPU when compared with clawhammer as it causes more CPU strain, thus I get way lower SPI scores when compared to clawhammers of the same speed (tried it with 1 CPU to reduce overheads). I was just wondering if they OC as much as clawhammers, or whether the dual channel cache cripples them.
 
not dual channel cache, dual channel memory. and no, it shouldn't effect the max stable oc, though it will effect your max ram oc ;) (and generally the dual channel chips seem to be better with ram than single channel, so... *shrug*)
 
2x 3200+ CG Clawhammer MAX OC is 2.55ghz which makes me mad.
ASUS K8N-E Deluxe or DFI Lanparty UT or VNF3-250 all get same results
2x 512 OCZ PC4000 EL Gold Rev 2 cant oc for poop if i use both sticks so ill show both results
Antec True Power 550 24a 12v
BFG 6800GT OC 400/1200

both chips are identicle in overclock so ill list it as 1 result.
Memory is , well making me mad. with 1 stick i can go 290mhz 100% stable 24/7 but 2 sticks i can only get 255-260 no matter what i do. i love paying outrageous amounts of money for a dual channel kit that only goes 15-20mhz over stock when you run them as the kit they are intended to be. (btw this is the same results for 2 pent 4 systems and 3 amd64 systems 2 sticks wont go past 260 without errors and even 260 gives errors sometimes)
cpu is water cooled 30c idle and 36 gaming and 40 under memtest86 (this is with a probe not the onboard temp)

3200+ CG Claw @ 2.478ghz @ 1.6v @ 8.5x multi
1x 512 ocz 4000 @ 290mhz @ 3.1v @ 2.5-3-3-8
HTT 3x or 2.5x

OR

3200+ CG Claw @ 2.5ghz @ 1.6v @ 10x multi
2x 512 oc4000 @ 250mhz @ 2.7v @ 2.5-3-3-8
HTT 2.5x or 3x or 4x

what bothers me is that this DFI wont even boot at 2x HTT the VNF3-250 and K8N-E Deluxe both run 2x HTT just great. why wont the DFI ?
not to mention the whole 2 sticks not overclocking,, that is the worst.
the system no matter what mobo i use wont even boot at 3.2v with 2 sticks that right there is grounds for RMA since OCZ guarentees this kit at 3.2v
 
If your looking for a cheap 939 mobo skip the Gigabyte K8NS 939 - can't oc a 3000+ winchester to save it's life (tried two!) - gonna try epox ;)
 
new to OC on the 64, with the system spects I show, other than just setting the fsb higher and higher, what other settings do i need to look at in order to OC this machine :D
 
Athlon Winchester 3200+ @ 6x378 for 2268 1.472
MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Platinum
1 512 meg Corsair 2.2.2.5 @189 (waiting to work with memory till other stick gets RMA'd)


Stock cooling. Idles at 34°c and loads at 50°c. Stable as a rock. Ran Prime95, Folding@Home and 3dmark03 for 12hrs+ before I stopped it. Wont go any further at this voltage.
 
ClayDo said:
new to OC on the 64, with the system spects I show, other than just setting the fsb higher and higher, what other settings do i need to look at in order to OC this machine :D
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I have a 3000+ 939 too - what you need to look at are the HTT multiplier - voltage and memory divider -

Right now I run 9x267 for 2.4 Ghz memory at 1:1 (ddr500 HyperX running at 2.7 volts) HTTx3

I think on the n4 boards you need to worry about the PCI-E as well since I don't know if the overclocking will affect your PCi-E ??
 
Zxcs said:
Yea, the dual channel on sledgehammer really cripples the CPU when compared with clawhammer as it causes more CPU strain, thus I get way lower SPI scores when compared to clawhammers of the same speed (tried it with 1 CPU to reduce overheads). I was just wondering if they OC as much as clawhammers, or whether the dual channel cache cripples them.
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Sledgehammers aren't very good ocers. They have extra HT links which increases the transistor count.. and well, you can connect the dots.
 
Heres 2x512...Gskill 1GBLA -Samsung TCCD440@3.0V....WR.at 9.8k with 2x256 gskill LA :)
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ive had this winchester 3000+ for 2 days now paired up w/ thermalright XP-90 and have hit 2520 (280*9) rock solid with 1.47 vcore ... PDP mem cant keep up tho running 6/4 divider so its only 180 right now. will test with 6/5 later. i think i can go higher when i raise chipset voltage and lower HTT.

recap:
EpoX 9nda3+
winchester 3000+ @ 2520 280*9
1.47 vcore
4x HTT
6/4 mem divider
load temps around 35 C
 
I have nothing but problems with my 9NDA3J - it undervolts like made and it not stable at stock even :(

at stock it runs my 3000+ at 1.34 volts!!
 
Ran Prime95 for 16 hours no errors and also played Half Life 2 for about 1.5 hours no lock up ran really smooth:

CPU: Winchester 3000+ 939 pin @ 2.4Ghz
HTT: 3x
Mult: 268x9
Core V's: 1.566 on CPUZ
Corsair XMS (2x512) Low Lat w/led (Bios set at Auto for all): Showing 2,3,3,6 lats on CPUZ.
Mem V's: 2.75
Mobo: Asus A8NSLI Deluxe
Bios Ver: 1004
Using: CoolerMaster Hyper 6 copper heat pipe with Thermaltake 76cfm fan running @ 40C after 1.5 hours of HL2

Very happy with this OC. :)
 
groebuck said:
I have nothing but problems with my 9NDA3J - it undervolts like made and it not stable at stock even :(

at stock it runs my 3000+ at 1.34 volts!!
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Agreed ... i had no probs but i think i got really lucky - my stock voltage was THE SAME!!!

but .... it ran stable at stock 1.8ghz on 1.34 vcore


i dont even know what week my cpu is cause i was in too big a hurry to see it rockin to note the info written on the label... im guessing its an early 05 cpu cause i just got it from newegg and their stock has been off and on for these CPU's over the last few mo's

is there an app that will tell me the week so i dont have to remove my XP-90 and re-goop with AS5? that was a PAIN!
 
Chris Lakies said:
Ran Prime95 for 16 hours no errors and also played Half Life 2 for about 1.5 hours no lock up ran really smooth:

CPU: Winchester 3000+ 939 pin @ 2.4Ghz
HTT: 3x
Mult: 268x9
Core V's: 1.566 on CPUZ
Corsair XMS (2x512) Low Lat w/led (Bios set at Auto for all): Showing 2,3,3,6 lats on CPUZ.
Mem V's: 2.75
Mobo: Asus A8NSLI Deluxe
Bios Ver: 1004
Using: CoolerMaster Hyper 6 copper heat pipe with Thermaltake 76cfm fan running @ 40C after 1.5 hours of HL2

Very happy with this OC. :)
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typing this post on higher clock/lower vcore

compare your numbers to mine - then say your happy
:eek: :p
 
[H]IronMonkey said:
typing this post on higher clock/lower vcore

compare your numbers to mine - then say your happy
:eek: :p
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Have you run Prime95 or a game like Half life 2 yet? I had my CPU at 2.6 it failed Prime in about 30 secs and HL2 locked in about 15 minutes. I also adjusted it down to 2.5 and it failed Prime in 30 secs, meaning not stable. If you haven't run prime then you may be up for a quick surprise. If you have run prime with no errors after 16 hours then you are a winner ;) .
 
Chris Lakies said:
Have you run Prime95 or a game like Half life 2 yet? I had my CPU at 2.6 it failed Prime in about 30 secs and HL2 locked in about 15 minutes. I also adjusted it down to 2.5 and it failed Prime in 30 secs, meaning not stable. If you haven't run prime then you may be up for a quick surprise. If you have run prime with no errors after 16 hours then you are a winner ;) .
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indeed i have tested it quite a bit ..... Folding/prime/3dmark 01 SE for 4 hrs no prob .... then went straight into HL2 for an hr followed by several hrs of Lineage 2
 
[H]IronMonkey said:
indeed i have tested it quite a bit ..... Folding/prime/3dmark 01 SE for 4 hrs no prob .... then went straight into HL2 for an hr followed by several hrs of Lineage 2
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I guess I could probalby squeeze a little more out of it if I fooled around and loosened the timings on my Ram, but I don't think 100mhz more cpu speed would have an advantage over my higher Ram timings. :confused:
 
3200+ 939 Winchester
2.4ghz(8x300)
Cpu Voltage = 1.4v
Giel 1GB(2x512) DDR 500@490, 2.5-4-4-7
Mobo DFI NF4 SLI-D
zalman cpns7000-alcu

I can go higher but I don't really feel the need to at the moment ^_^ I'll play more with it later
 
My 3200+ Claw CG will run fine at 2.5ghz but i have the current settings cuz its the faster ram settings and only slightly less than 2.5ghz. 1.55v mem at 290mhz 1:1 2.5-3-3-8 or 10 3.1v OCZ PC4000 El Gold Rev 2 this is as fast as the ram will run 1:1 i havent tried less than 1:1 cuz that would be stupid,, the performance loss would be huge and not worth it. cpu divider @ 8.5

http://lestat.home.mchsi.com/pics/cpu-2464.JPG
http://lestat.home.mchsi.com/pics/memory-2464.JPG

water cooled with DFI Lanparty running 30 idle and max 38 under heavy gaming when my bedroom is warm cuz we got the heat on.cuz its winter ya know.
thats also with my 6800 GT OC in the same loop at the CPU so it'd be cooler if the vid card was not in the loop.
 
just so you know, when you run 1/2 multis for the cpu, it lowers the ram speed a bit.
at 290 * 8.5 with the ram at '1:1', the ram will actually be 274mhz
 
Any ideas on how I can get my fx past 3ghz? At the moment I'm running 300 * 10 @ 2.806v, wont boot when I put it past 3.05 though. I've tryed lowering HT and upping multiplier but it wont seem to move. Any ideas or am I just unlucky in getting a crap OC'er?
 
400mhz over a chip that's already wicked fast is very nice.. i can barely do that with my 2ghz clawhammer.

that in mind, do you have a limit at 300mhz htt? can you boot into windows at 231*13?
 
Yea I can boot into windows a little over the 3ghz mark, 275*11 being highest upto now. I know that 400mhz is good, but I'm pretty sure fx is way more capable when under a cascade.
 
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